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the information written under the alias had been given him by two federal employees, one with the Secret Service and the other with the FBI. We have also heard that Copeland was a prosecutor of criminals and may have learned details from men he represented who were connected to organized crime or hired as assassins.
The secret memo is one of two letters written by JFK asking for information about the paranormal on November 12 1963, which have been released by the CIA for the first time.
Author William Lester said the CIA released the documents to him under the Freedom of Information Act after he made a request while researching his new book ‘A Celebration of Freedom: JFK and the New Frontier.’
‘One of his concerns was that a lot of these UFOs were being seen over the Soviet Union and he was very concerned that the Soviets might misinterpret these UFOs as U.S. aggression, believing that it was some of our technology,’ Mr Lester told AOL News.
‘I think this is one of the reasons why he wanted to get his hands on this information and get it away from the jurisdiction of NASA so he could say to the Soviets, “Look, that’s not us, we’re not doing it, we’re not being provocative. “.’
Disputed: In the ‘burned memo’ the CIA director allegedly wrote: ‘Lancer [JFK] has made some inquiries regarding our activities, which we cannot allow’
In a note sent with the document, the apparent leaker said he worked for CIA between 1960 and 1974 and pulled the memo from a fire when the agency was burning some of its most sensitive files.
The undated memo contains a reference to ‘Lancer’, which was JFK’s Secret Service code name.
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
I didn't suggest a thing. Just showed some FOIA documents that left no question. It is called the true HISTORY. imho
But then you can't read obvious reference source, leading you being ignorant.
That, having sawed you off at the knees, leaves you to design you latest ignorance promotion effort. imho
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
You can beg all you want, but the two articles were unimpeachable. Which means you get exposed dealing in untruth once again, and ignorance is all you promote. imho
You "attack" only for the sake of argue, with no substance of the simple truth. Thus, going against the list rules of ending ignorance. imho
You always impeach yourself, which is ignorance. imho
So, after my tour I inquired about the possibility of doing research in the temple’s library. The collection of Masonic literature in that temple is virtually without peer in the world.
My request was granted, and I soon had a much better idea of what Robert Monroe had been alluding to:
I discovered that some of the most prominent astronauts in the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo space programs are (or were) Masons.3
Indeed, one of the original seven Project Mercury astronauts, John Glenn, is now an influential United States Senator from Ohio who will be returning to space again, in October 1998, aboard the space shuttle (author’s note: this event did occur, for reasons that are still not entirely clear).
I also learned that two former, highly placed administrators at NASA, Kenneth S. Kleinknecht,4 and James E. Webb 5 are both Masons.64
To my surprise, there, in the temple’s museum, was,
a Scottish Rite Masonic flag which Edwin Aldrin, Jr., the second Apollo program astronaut to walk on the Moon, carried with him to the lunar surface. When I visited, the flag was prominently displayed in a glass case in the museum.
The same museum also displays a small Masonic flag that Apollo 7 astronaut Walter Schirra carried into space and subsequently presented to Scottish Rite Supreme Council, 33º Grand Commander Henry Clausen, on 23 October 1969.
Gordon Cooper also took the Supreme Council, 33º flag into space on the Gemini 5 orbital mission.
The museum also contains pieces of the heat shields from NASA’s Mercury 7 and Apollo 11 manned missions.
The Hoover shrine includes his official desk and many mementos and memorabilia from his long career. It seems that this temple has a special relationship with the FBI, as well as with NASA and the manned space program.
That’s not all. This same temple also holds the personal library of Confederate Army General, Albert Pike. It even holds his corpse, buried in the walls at the rear of the building. Just who was Albert Pike? Well, he was a prominent Mason in the post-Civil War era in the Southern state -- and if some sources can be believed he was also one of the Founding Fathers of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), the White-racist, terrorist organization that formed in the South after the Civil War.9
Little did I know that I would stumble on all of this when I set out to learn more about Freemasonry.
The first director of the Kennedy Space Center was Kurt Debus, the V-2 rocket flight test director at the infamous Nazi missile base at Peenemünde, Germany. Wernher von Braun himself was an officer in Hitler’s dreaded SS and later director of NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center. And Arthur Rudolph, the head of production at the Nazi’s murderous Mittelwerk underground missile factory in Germany’s Harz Mountains, was later to become Director of NASA’s Saturn V moon rocket program.10
At any rate, the close ties between prominent NASA astronauts, NASA officials and Freemasonry (including the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite) leave no serious doubt about some sort of Masonic involvement in the United States manned space program at the highest levels.
Likewise, the crucial work of powerful "ex"-Nazis, such as Werner von Braun, Arthur Rudolph, Kurt Debus, and many others, at the heart of the United States’ manned space program raises further questions about the role that these Project Paperclip "ex"-Nazis and their sympathizers played (and may still play) for NASA.
James E. Webb Papers
Director, Bureau of the Budget, 1946-1949; Under Secretary of State, 1949-1952; Administrator, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, 1961-1968.
Kenneth S. Kleinknecht2 Manager,
Command and Service Modules.
Manager, Project Mercury. Fairview Lodge
No. 699 Fairview, Ohio
Clark C. McClelland ScO, Space Shuttle Fleet
1958 - 1992 Lodge 301 Venus, Florida
James Edwin Webb b. October 7, 1906 Administrator, NASA
1961-1968 University Lodge
No. 408 Chapel Hill, North Carolina
White Sands V-2 Launching Site, also known as Launch Complex 33 or White Sands Blockhouse and Gantry Crane, is located in the White Sands Missile Range.
According to the National Park Service:
This site is closely associated with U.S. testing of the German V-2 rocket, the origins of the American rocket program, and the leadership of Dr. Werner von Braun (1912-1977). The V-2 Gantry Crane and Army Blockhouse here represent the first generation of rocket testing facilities that would lead to U.S. exploration of space.
It was declared a National Historic Landmark in 1985.
Kurt Debus, rocket launch specialist, another SS officer. His report stated: "He should be interned as a menace to the security of the Allied Forces."
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Hmmm. I think you're right - I misread his Wiki entry. I knew that he was in the SA but he also seems to have been a low-ranking member of the SS.