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I didn't vote for the guy. I actually didn't vote in the last few election cycles. I was too dismayed by the choices. However I did want to give Obama a chance. I liked his speech at the DNC in '04. Thought he was a moderate and reasonable person and his rhetoric, let's call it that now, during his campaigning, sounded promising. But as the campaign strung along, I could see he was hiding something in his personality and he was just saying what he knew people wanted to hear. Even then after he was elected, I wanted to give him a chance. This from a life long conservative. Now I think they all need to be tried and then discarded.
Aazadan
Bilk22
Yeah he lied about what he would do about issues like the PA, personal freedoms and privacy. Take a walk. You probably voted for him. Accept responsibility for it.
What I really hate about this (and this is why I won't vote for either major party) is that he did everything his opposition said he would do. In the end we had no choice. That's the failure of representation. Third parties are the only choice and the media (and consequently the people) don't take them seriously.
jimmyx
stevens refused security that was offered
www.mcclatchydc.com...
seems like the CIA should take a lot of the blame here
www.thedailybeast.com...
i'm just trying to show that the failure to take into account the responsibility of others that were "in country", and the right throwing all the blame on Hillary Clinton, tends to lead to those on the left to question the motives of Darrel Issa's numerous hearings, and the motives of right-wing media.
Bilk22
I didn't vote for the guy. I actually didn't vote in the last few election cycles. I was too dismayed by the choices. However I did want to give Obama a chance. I liked his speech at the DNC in '04. Thought he was a moderate and reasonable person and his rhetoric, let's call it that now, during his campaigning, sounded promising. But as the campaign strung along, I could see he was hiding something in his personality and he was just saying what he knew people wanted to hear. Even then after he was elected, I wanted to give him a chance. This from a life long conservative. Now I think they all need to be tried and then discarded.
Aazadan
Bilk22
Yeah he lied about what he would do about issues like the PA, personal freedoms and privacy. Take a walk. You probably voted for him. Accept responsibility for it.
What I really hate about this (and this is why I won't vote for either major party) is that he did everything his opposition said he would do. In the end we had no choice. That's the failure of representation. Third parties are the only choice and the media (and consequently the people) don't take them seriously.
Bilk22
I didn't vote for the guy. I actually didn't vote in the last few election cycles. I was too dismayed by the choices. However I did want to give Obama a chance. I liked his speech at the DNC in '04. Thought he was a moderate and reasonable person and his rhetoric, let's call it that now, during his campaigning, sounded promising. But as the campaign strung along, I could see he was hiding something in his personality and he was just saying what he knew people wanted to hear. Even then after he was elected, I wanted to give him a chance. This from a life long conservative. Now I think they all need to be tried and then discarded.
matafuchs
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
I was under the impression they were killed in Benghazi because they were investigating the state department sale of weapons to al qeada? These were CIA men who were on to something and certain people in the current admin wanted them gone. Infighting in the acronym agencies. The Russians were also giving the heads up but those articles are gone now.