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Zaphod58
reply to post by NewAgeMan
Even with compartmentalization you are going to have a full conversion crew knowing they converted two planes, and you would have some engineers in on it in case there was a problem.
Zaphod58
reply to post by Sremmos80
Engineers aren't stupid. They talk to each other about their programs all the time even with an NDA.
Then you have the group that painted them to match AA and UAL. It takes a pretty good size crew to paint something that size.
Sremmos80
The paint crew that paints planes all the time?? Why would this one be any different....
Military worker do their job when they are told and don't ask questions.
They can be threatened with the UCMJ for anything they say and be put in the bridge,
hellobruce
Sremmos80
The paint crew that paints planes all the time?? Why would this one be any different....
How often do you think the air force painters paint planes with civilian markings...
Military worker do their job when they are told and don't ask questions.
Where do you get that nonsense from?
They can be threatened with the UCMJ for anything they say and be put in the bridge,
Threatened with what exactly? Why would they be put on a bridge? any specific bridge, or does it have to be the Golden Gate bridge?
OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by soulwaxer
Operation NorthWoods is another joke.
The document never actually talked about any action which would actually kill any Americans it was all about targeting Cubans (have you even read it?) and they released it before 9/11. That's the bit I really dont get, truthers talk about Northwoods like it was the blue print for 9/11, if that was true they why ever make that public?
It was also written almost 40 years before 9/11, really, thats what truthers are using cold war era military plans that where shelved at the time as some kind of evidence in their 9/11 "truth!. It was even dismissed by McNamara years later as "stupid", I think he had a point in more ways than one.
sigh....
same crap different thread....edit on 11-1-2014 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)
DocScurlock
reply to post by gardener
Maybe Somthing similar went down in 2001? Just a thought I obviously cant prove any of this theory.
projectbane
DocScurlock
reply to post by gardener
Maybe Somthing similar went down in 2001? Just a thought I obviously cant prove any of this theory.
OR maybe, it was actually 19 terrorists who flew said planes into WTC. And they carried out the biggest attack on the most heavily secured nation on the planet.
The trouble with conspiracy theorists and 9/11 is that they keep making stuff up to suit their theories and keep changing their minds every other day. But not 1 of them can actually say what REALLY happened. I wonder why that is? Maybe boredom, lack of fulfillment, disillusioned or just it sounds better than what actually happened.
Sremmos80
Because how do personal belongings survive but black boxes and 6000 lb hunks of steel that are jet engines don't??
Why is there a debris field of over 8 miles if it was just a nosedive by brave passengers?
If it was shot down then why do almost all eye witnesses say that it had no damage on it?
Is that red bandanna designed to withstand extreme temperatures?
Why is there no fire where the wings, that would of had fuel in them, hit?
The passport has to be the greatest. In a guys pocket or shoot for the sake of argument he had it in the other hand out as he hijacked the plane.
Crashes it into a tower and creates fireballs that blast out all sides of the towers. What I am led to think is that said passport was in front of those fireballs somehow? To the point where there is barley a burn?
Some times, it comes down to dumb luck.
And conveniently found by the police cheif with a not so great background that was nominated for a seat in the whitehouse for DHS but had to deny because of his stint in federal prison for, CONSPIRACY, but then went over to Iraq and had was the right hand man over there.
Columbia and Challenger are not the same thing as what is be discussed so I don't see how it fits into your reasoning... Those are not associated with any Truth movement of 911...
GenRadek
Sremmos80
Because how do personal belongings survive but black boxes and 6000 lb hunks of steel that are jet engines don't??
Why is there a debris field of over 8 miles if it was just a nosedive by brave passengers?
It may come as a surprise but, light objects like that are more likely to survive because they can do something called "float". During the impact, light materials get caught up in the updrafts of the fires and survive. This is not the first time. Check other high profile crashes of airliners. Clothes, shoes, magazines, letters, have survived serious catastrophes.
If it was shot down then why do almost all eye witnesses say that it had no damage on it?
It wasn't shot down. Hence, no issue there. It crashed.
Is that red bandanna designed to withstand extreme temperatures?
Tell me, is a plastic case with an American flag designed to survive the explosion and disintegration of a shuttle that was loaded with tons of liquid oxygen and hydrogen?
Why is there no fire where the wings, that would of had fuel in them, hit?
There was. It was mostly either burned off in the impact explosion or it was absorbed into the ground.
The passport has to be the greatest. In a guys pocket or shoot for the sake of argument he had it in the other hand out as he hijacked the plane.
Or it was in the carry on luggage. Anyways, there are MANY instances of personal items surviving such crashes.
Crashes it into a tower and creates fireballs that blast out all sides of the towers. What I am led to think is that said passport was in front of those fireballs somehow? To the point where there is barley a burn?
You forget that the plane is a hollow tube filled with air as well. All that air can blow items out from the inside of the aircraft on impact. Again, look up other aircrashes where this has happened.
Some times, it comes down to dumb luck.
And conveniently found by the police cheif with a not so great background that was nominated for a seat in the whitehouse for DHS but had to deny because of his stint in federal prison for, CONSPIRACY, but then went over to Iraq and had was the right hand man over there.
Columbia and Challenger are not the same thing as what is be discussed so I don't see how it fits into your reasoning... Those are not associated with any Truth movement of 911...
No it was being stated how can such fragile things survive such catastrophic and violent incidents intact, and that it must mean it was planted. I merely stated that Columbia and Challenger both experienced even more severe stresses and forces, and had some fragile items survive that one would not have expected to survive. Surviving a break up and reentry in the atmosphere is not relevant to items surviving 9/11? Come now.
NewAgeMan
reply to post by hellobruce
he meant the brig as in military prison, but if someone talked about something like that, or even hinted about heading in that direction of becoming a whistleblower over something like that, they would never see the brig.
JuniorDisco
NewAgeMan
reply to post by hellobruce
he meant the brig as in military prison, but if someone talked about something like that, or even hinted about heading in that direction of becoming a whistleblower over something like that, they would never see the brig.
You mean they would be killed? So there's another set of guys on top of this who go around killing people and they've never talked either?
Why don't they talk? Is it because they're frightened of getting killed? By another set of guys?