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You've got a really big long post with lots of data and tell me how there is record temperatures. Let me start with two questions. What was the average global temperature in 2012? What was the average global temperature in 2013?
There ARE many Americans that see this north American cold snap and think "Wow...I guess there is no such thing as global warming." Those idiots are who this thread is about.”
And do you know what was happening in Alaska when we had our unusally mild winter two years ago?
Oh, it was setting records for cold.
Do you know why? Because the very same polar vortex we are being blessed with was stuck over them.
And we thought we had some bad weather last year, but it was nothing compared to what happened in Europe and Russia with the cold.
And, yes, the Southern hemisphere is experiencing a heat wave, but they just got done having some unusually brutal winter weather, especially in South America.
This stuff happens. It goes in cycles, and it is called weather.
This stuff happens. It goes in cycles, and it is called weather.
I can attest to you that the team of 50 scientists producing the 1,200 pages of calm, reasoned, dispassionate science in the report did achieve their goal of objectively analyzing and interpreting data and facts without conforming to any specific agenda. They carefully demonstrate the inconvenient facts about the world’s climate discussed below, and when you have that any politicization would just detract from the presentation, as Al Gore shows in his global warming political harangues.
That is in sharp contrast to President Obama’s own EPA, which issued its “endangerment finding” legally authorizing regulation of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions, without submitting the finding to its own peer review board established by federal law precisely for that purpose. What were they so afraid of if 97% of scientists supposedly agree with them? That violation of federal law has now been challenged in court, and is pending before the U.S. Supreme Court. But this would not be the first time that the Administration of this lawless President has openly flouted the law.
The authors of the report do not deny that there is some effect of warming the planet from mankind’s emissions of CO2, primarily from use of traditional carbon fuels such as oil, coal, and natural gas. The argument is over how big of an effect that is, how that compares to natural causes of climate change, and whether the human caused effect threatens a catastrophe, or even severe distress, to human civilization and the environment. The conclusion of the report is that the U.N.’s IPCC has exaggerated the amount of global warming likely to occur due to mankind’s emissions of CO2, and the warming that human civilization will cause as a result “is likely to be modest and cause no net harm to the global environment or to human well-being.”
The fundamentals of the argument is that CO2 is not some toxic industrial gas, but a natural, trace gas constituting just 0.038% of the atmosphere. For readers disadvantaged by excessive exposure to the party propaganda organ called the New York Times, that is less than 4/100ths of one percent. The report states, “At the current level of 400 parts per million, we still live in a CO2-starved world. Atmospheric levels (of CO2) 15 times greater existed during the pre-Cambrian period (about 550 million years ago) without known adverse effects,” such as catastrophic global warming.
Dude, these kind of posts are what make me wonder about shills. Come on, you live there and you're acting like you don't know what's going on in your own country. You come on here and post about being cold and needing blankets. This is what Australia is experiencing right now...you must really take people for being blind.
Weather forecast for Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Weather in Brisbane for the next 7 days
Weather in Brisbane - today - Saturday - 11.01.2014 - by hour
1:00 4:00 7:00 10:00 13:00 16:00 19:00 22:00
Sunrise : 05:05
Sunset : 18:45
Temperature 20°C 20°C 23°C 26°C 27°C 27°C 25°C 23°C
People are arrogant because they don't agree with you?
Oh, the irony.
Yeah, I love how "winter" suddenly 'proves' there is no global warming. LOL Fools can't see past their own noses. One cold event doesn't disprove or prove global warming, yet I've got idiots on facebook posting stuff like "Negative 17 here..yep that's global warming for you!" How many times did these people get hit on the head?
China's Extreme Cold Snaps Records
Becky Oskin, OurAmazingPlanet Staff Writer | January 08, 2013 06:29pm ET
An unusually cold winter across China has some regions hitting their lowest average temperatures in more than 40 years, according to state media reports. The Chinese national meteorological agency said polar fronts caused by global warming are to blame for the frigid air. The freeze is the coldest winter in 28 years, the English-language newspaper China Daily reported. The national average temperature across China's vast territory was a chilly 25.2 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 3.8 degrees Celsius) since late November. In northeast China, which typically has snowy, cold winters, the average temperature was an icy 4.5 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 15.3 degrees Celsius), the lowest in 42 years.
Snow surprises South Africans as cold snap strikes
The Associated Press Posted: Aug 07, 2012 12:43 PM ET| Last Updated: Aug 07, 2012 12:34 PM ET
People slowly came outside despite the cold wind across South Africa today, pointed their mobile phone cameras to the sky and opened their mouths to taste a rare snowfall that fell on much of the country.
The snow began Tuesday morning, part of an extreme cold snap now biting into a nation still in its winter months. By mid-afternoon, officials recorded snowfall across every South African province except Limpopo, though a formal report from the region had yet to reach the South African Weather Service, agency spokeswoman Kenosi Machepa said. Satellite imagery suggested the snow reached there as well, she said.
Record winter ice cover in Antarctica
Matthew Denholm |
The Australian |
October 24, 2013 12:00AM
WINTER sea ice cover in the Antarctic has grown to its largest extent since satellite records began in the late 1970s, defying most climate models and muddying the waters of the global warming debate.
The latest data from NASA's satellites shows the winter sea ice cover around the frozen continent reached a record 19.47 million sq km last month. That beats last winter's 19.44 million sq km -- itself a record.
Freezing cold March sets records across Europe
By Justin Grieser
March 29, 2013 at 1:15 pm
Like much of the eastern U.S., Europe has been stubbornly cold this March. In spring’s absence, arctic air and heavy snowfall more typical of January have kept temperatures some 3 to 4ºC below normal across the continent.
The Met Office reports this has been the UK’s coldest March since 1962, with an average temperature 3ºC (5.4 ºF) below normal. Through March 26, the mean national temperature was 2.5ºC, making it the 4th coldest March since records began in 1910.
Down to -50C: Russians freeze to death as strongest-in-decades winter hits (PHOTOS)
Published time: December 19, 2012 15:00
Edited time: December 19, 2012 19:58
Russia is enduring its harshest winter in over 70 years, with temperatures plunging as low as -50 degrees Celsius. Dozens of people have already died, and almost 150 have been hospitalized.
The country has not witnessed such a long cold spell since 1938, meteorologists said, with temperatures 10 to 15 degrees lower than the seasonal norm all over Russia.
Across the country, 45 people have died due to the cold, and 266 have been taken to hospitals. In total, 542 people were injured due to the freezing temperatures, RIA Novosti reported.
The Moscow region saw temperatures of -17 to -18 degrees Celsius on Wednesday, and the record cold temperatures are expected to linger for at least three more days. Thermometers in Siberia touched -50 degrees Celsius, which is also abnormal for December.
Record cold and snowy winter across much of South America
Posted: Monday, August 5, 2013 12:00 am
While we residents of beautiful North Idaho were enjoying a near record amount of sunshine and our seventh hottest July in 118 years since at least 1895, our South American friends were, by extreme contrast weatherwise, shivering in their coldest, and in some cases, snowiest July in living memory.
More than two feet of snow buried parts of southern Chile in mid July. The Chilean Army was called upon to rescue people trapped by the blizzard. There were several deaths caused by hypothermia across both Chile and Argentina. Flu cases mounted. Livestock losses were widespread in both sheep and cattle.
January 7, 2014 1:30 pm
Will this be Canada’s coldest winter?
By Nicole Mortillaro Global News
TORONTO – Many people across Canada may be struggling to remember the last time it was so cold — and for so long.
It’s definitely been a few years since Canadians have experienced a cold winter.
Unfortunately, to me, this is where the argument comes unstuck.
So the statement was made, it is hotter now than the mid 20th century....so when in the mid 20th century?
"Average" temperature again.
A little research will show that during the WW2 in the early 1940s Europe (supposedly the World up there), experienced the COLDEST Winter in 100 years...yes it was unusual, yes its what saved Russia from invasion...Perhaps it was the Arctic Vortex again?
Nevertheless, this "once in 100 years" cold snap effectively Lowered the Worlds temperature "Averages" in that period.
So, If you are comparing the Now Actual Temperature, with the 1940s Average, then we are hotter than then.
I presume temperature returned to normal in the 1950s-1976..someone wrote. So 1976 was again the coldest year? (Im asking I did not know that), So Naturally, this 1976 cold snap Again, dropped the "Average" temperatures, and comparing the now "Average" to then cannot be considered a reasonable logic question.
So, I can tell you, where I live, the temperatures of the past 5-6 years HAVE been cooler, than they were in the late 1990s early 2000s (which was a drought time here...El Nino etc)
In 2010, methane levels in the Arctic were measured at 1850 nmol/mol, a level over twice as high as at any time in the 400,000 years prior to the industrial revolution. Historically, methane concentrations in the world's atmosphere have ranged between 300 and 400 nmol/mol during glacial periods commonly known as ice ages, and between 600 to 700 nmol/mol during the warm interglacial periods. It has a high global warming potential: 72 times that of carbon dioxide over 20 years, and 25 times over 100 years, and the levels are rising. Recent research suggests that the Earth's oceans are a potentially important new source of Arctic methane.
Released on 10/27/2013 by the USGS (photo above in the slideshow) are the latest readings of methane over the Arctic area. Methane that is being released above 1950 pbb (parts per billion) is in red. To put those numbers into context, what is considered a 'normal' release of methane? According to Dr. James Hansen, an American adjunct professor in the Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences at Columbia University, 1250 ppb is a livable level. We are now well surpassing that level daily.