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4. Where will it reach the Atlantic ? Gulf of Mexico Elk River then Kanawha River then The Ohio River then the Mississippi ....
The leak, which was first reported at 11:40 a.m., came from a 48,000-gallon storage tank, Tom Aluise, a spokesman for West Virginia’s department of environmental protection, told The Times. “All we know is that they discovered a hole in the tank, and material was leaking,” Aluise said. “How that hole got there, we don’t know.” The Freedom Industries facility sits right on the river, about a mile upstream from a water treatment facility where the chemical contaminated the tap water, Aluise said. It wasn’t clear how much of the chemical had leaked, Aluise said. After discovering it, officials drained the rest of the tank, cleaned up the material that had leaked at the facility, and placed absorbent booms along the river, he said. “We don’t think it’s going to the river anymore,” Aluise said of the chemical. The biggest worry from the substance, he added, was if people drank it. “This material pretty much floats on the water, and it’s floating downstream, and eventually it will dissipate, but you can’t actually get in there and remove it,” he said.] www.latimes.com...
reply to post by gimmefootball400 We all should seek the truth about this. Just watched a NBC national noon news feed that said ,"2 gallons into the river". NY Times article claims 4-Methylcyclohexane Methanol ," non-toxic". Best story, most information is from the LA Times. Local information is the best, unless there economic motive to paint a rosy pic. I live on the Gulf and will add it to our chemical soup list.
reply to post by donlashway Hello. The earthquakes shown on your image above are 99% mining blasts/or drilling related. As for the ANF earthquake map in general, I recommend that you do not use it. It regularly lists phantom quakes (they didn't really happen) that can, and have, scared the poop sauce out many people. The only pages I use from that site are the "Orbmanrtd"--screenshots of entire regions/networks, such as Cascadia or Chile. For general earthquake lists, stick with: USGS, EMSC, REV, IRIS Earthquake Browser, IRIS - Wilber , or see Puterman's signature for QVS... edit on 1/10/2014 by Olivine because: (no reason given) edit on 1/10/2014 by Olivine because: add a few links "The Lotus blooms most beautifully from the deepest and thickest mud" --Buddhist proverb
All this said, the concentration of the 4-Methylcyclohexane Methanol would likely be small enough to avoid major health issues. In other words, the contaminant would be diluted as it moves downstream thru major rivers, such that the concentration of the chemical would be muted/diluted. Late last night FEMA officials confirmed Dr. C's notion that the risks were not overwhelming, rather more inconveniencing. Then came word from Kanawha County Emergency Manager C.W. Sigman that while 2 to 5 thousand gallons of contaminant spilled,not all made it into the Elk River and hence into the WV American Water treatment plant. Given the enormous diluting water capacity of the Kanawha and Ohio Rivers downstream from the spill, frankly that sounds like a small amount of chemical, the concentration of the chemical not with-standing.. So I will employ the age old adage when it comes to events like this; namely, the solution to pollution is dilution. This suggests with a high probability that Ohio River communities will not be affected as the dilutive effects of the Great Kanawha and Mighty Ohio act in our favor.
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I am in the area of the spill. It was 4-methylcyclohexane methanol. Several of my friends drank contaminated water when the warning was limited to 5 counties, now it is extended to 9 (and one friend was in a county that still isnt listed, but described the same taste as the two that drank water that were in listed counties. They all said it tasted like cough syrup.).
The National Guard is coming to the area to bring bottled water apparently.edit on 10-1-2014 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)
The West Virginia National Guard has been running hourly tests on the chemical's concentration since Thursday night. A safe level is 1 part per million. The level has dropped from 2 to 1.7 parts per million, said Maj. Gen. James A. Hoyer, Adjutant General of West Virginia. At 0.1 parts per million, the licorice smell and green tint would disappear from the water, Hoyer said. Even at its current concentrations, however, the chemical is unlikely to cause any serious harm, Ziemkiewicz said. "You'd have to drink something like 1,700 gallons of water to even approach a lethal dose," he said. If a person drank a glass or two of tainted water, "I would be astonished if that caused any serious problems." --- Associated Press researchers Rhonda Shafner and Monika Mathur in New York and AP writers Mitch Weiss, John Raby and Pam Ramsey in Charleston; Ray Henry in Atlanta; and John Flesher in Traverse City, Mich., contributed to this report.
At 0.1 parts per million, the licorice smell and green tint would disappear from the water, Hoyer said. Even at its current concentrations, however, the chemical is unlikely to cause any serious harm, Ziemkiewicz said. "You'd have to drink something like 1,700 gallons of water to even approach a lethal dose," he said. If a person drank a glass or two of tainted water, "I would be astonished if that caused any serious problems."
Danger Highly flammable liquid and vapour. May be fatal if swallowed and enters airways.
Carcinogenicity IARC: No component of this product present at levels greater than or equal to 0.1% is identified as probable, possible or confirmed human carcinogen by IARC. Reproductive toxicity no data available Specific target organ toxicity - single exposure May cause drowsiness or dizziness. Specific target organ toxicity - repeated exposure no data available Aspiration hazard May be fatal if swallowed and enters airways. Potential health effects Inhalation Ingestion May be harmful if inhaled. Causes respiratory tract irritation. Vapours may cause drowsiness and dizziness. May be harmful if swallowed. Aspiration hazard if swallowed - can enter lungs and cause damage. Skin May be harmful if absorbed through skin. Causes skin irritation. Signs and Symptoms of Exposure prolonged or repeated exposure can cause:, narcosis
Aspiration hazard May be fatal if swallowed and enters airways.