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Why Are We Not All Dead Already?

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posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:31 PM
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20 years from now... people will still be talking about the disaster at Fukushima.......


I thought you said that you were old?


it will still be spewing radiation and hot ground water will still be going into the ocean.... nothing can stop it.


They are already removing the fuel rods.

I honestly don't see what you are so upset about.

Do you hate japan or something?




posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:34 PM
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You: Done talking to you....
Me: Pfffft.... no you aren't




Do not try to put words in my mouth......


I'm not doing that, silly.


we obviously don't agree on anything......


We agreed that the reactors were dangerous, and a small bit of coastline has some elevated radiation levels...

Are you saying that this is not so?


nuclear power is not safe and has never been safe.


And people drown in pools all of the time.

Car wrecks, house fires, etc......

Should we start living in caves again? Using horse drawn buggies to get anywhere?

Is this what you are saying?
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posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:39 PM
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the fuel rods are a puppet show put on by Tepco...... even they somehow can remove every single fuel rod at Fukushima Daiichi... that still leave 3 melted cores that are somewhere under the buildings...... the buildings are deadly radioactive and human wont be able to go in them for decades.

There is a underground river that runs right through the plant........ hot water is going to be going into the ocean for possibly thousands of years... you can't make it go away.


Eventually Tepco will walk away from Fukushima...... it will bankrupt them trying to fix what can not be fixed.


Tepco made the decison to use a now known to be faulty design by GE and they decided to place it right next to the ocean... the groundwater level in that area is now damn near the surface.

All of this information is in Part 1 and 2 of the original thread.... I have read every single page....... have you???



posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:41 PM
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I like your math though... tell you what....


lets get a 55 gallon drum full of water.... I will spit and urinate in the into the drum of water....

the amount of urine and spit will be almost neglible based on the amount of water.... drink up my friend!!



posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:44 PM
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the buildings are deadly radioactive and human wont be able to go in them for decades.


Then we won't....

What's the problem?


There is a underground river that runs right through the plant........


It's not a river, silly.. it's the water table.


hot water is going to be going into the ocean for possibly thousands of years... you can't make it go away.


Unless you drill down to the bedrock, and freeze the ground surrounding the reactor, thus preventing the water from flowing under it...

Which is precisely what they are doing.

Honestly, why are you so scared?

Do you really think that human beings are incapable of solving problems?


it will bankrupt them trying to fix what can not be fixed.


Nah... it's not that much money, and they are already on their way to completing the fix-it job, and containment.

Not too difficult, actually.


All of this information is in Part 1 and 2 of the original thread.... I have read every single page....... have you???


IT's been the same old thread for about 3 years now, and always the doom porn exponents, like you, claiming that we should be dead by now.

Which is the title of this thread, BTW.

And we are not, as this conversation is an indication of.

Also, Japan still exists, and is still populated.

As is hawaii.



posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:44 PM
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The title of the thread is why are we not all dead yet....


The simple answer is radiation is a silent killer.... it takes time to work its magic....



posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:45 PM
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lets get a 55 gallon drum full of water.... I will spit and urinate in the into the drum of water....

the amount of urine and spit will be almost neglible based on the amount of water.... drink up my friend!!


Did you just compare the entire atlantic ocean...

To a 55 gallon drum?



posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:46 PM
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The title of the thread is why are we not all dead yet....


You didn't wait for me to finish posting my reply before you responded...

You are getting sloppy, and desperate.



The simple answer is radiation is a silent killer.... it takes time to work its magic....


Then explain why you are radioactive right now.

And... So old.



posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:53 PM
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the buildings are deadly radioactive and human wont be able to go in them for decades.


Then we won't....

What's the problem?


There is a underground river that runs right through the plant........


It's not a river, silly.. it's the water table.

Thats total BS and you know it.... there is an an ancient riverbed that flows from the mountains down to the sea..... the groundwater follows this path


hot water is going to be going into the ocean for possibly thousands of years... you can't make it go away.


Unless you drill down to the bedrock, and freeze the ground surrounding the reactor, thus preventing the water from flowing under it...

They aren't going to freeze anything... that's a pipe dream that is currently not feasible with current technology

Which is precisely what they are doing.

Honestly, why are you so scared?

I am not scared,., I am concerned.... big difference

Do you really think that human beings are incapable of solving problems?

How Chernobyl working out for you dude??? It still isn't "fixed"


it will bankrupt them trying to fix what can not be fixed.


Nah... it's not that much money, and they are already on their way to completing the fix-it job, and containment.

Not too difficult, actually.

You have no idea what you are talking about....... there is no containment... there is no fix-it job.... how do repair something thats so radioactive that human can't even get close to it to work on it??? They had a reading on one of the smokestacks of 25 sieverts per hour....... you will pass out in 3 minutes and dead in 20..... that sounds like its contained to me


All of this information is in Part 1 and 2 of the original thread.... I have read every single page....... have you???


IT's been the same old thread for about 3 years now, and always the doom porn exponents, like you, claiming that we should be dead by now.

Which is the title of this thread, BTW.

And we are not, as this conversation is an indication of.

Also, Japan still exists, and is still populated.

As is hawaii.



posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:54 PM
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By the way.,... do a little research and quit flapping your gums and you will find out there isn't any bedrock under Fukushima... its called Mud rock and it contains a lot of water.

After reading your reply.... you have to be an industry shill or you just in the habit of talking about something of which you have very little if any knowledge.


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posted on Jan, 12 2014 @ 11:59 PM
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Thats total BS and you know it.... there is an an ancient riverbed that flows from the mountains down to the sea..... the groundwater follows this path


That's called the water table.

Anyway, I don't see what the problem is... it's just water flowing under the reactor.

What do you care what it's called?


They aren't going to freeze anything... that's a pipe dream that is currently not feasible with current technology


Freezing things is infeasable with our current technology?

ascelibrary.org...

Also, it's a construction technique that has been used for decades.

I don't see what your problem is.


I am not scared,., I am concerned.... big difference


No you aren't... you are vindictive.


How Chernobyl working out for you dude??? It still isn't "fixed"


And how long has it been since you died from cherynoble radiation poisoning?



You have no idea what you are talking about....... there is no containment... there is no fix-it job.... how do repair something thats so radioactive that human can't even get close to it to work on it??? They had a reading on one of the smokestacks of 25 sieverts per hour....... you will pass out in 3 minutes and dead in 20..... that sounds like its contained to me


I know perfectly well what I am talking about, thank you very much.

You just like trying to spread fear, instead of knowledge.

Plenty of things are radioactive, and shielding can protect the construction equipment and crews from the radiation hazards while the containment is being made.

Stop hating, and seek solutions, instead of trumpetting that the sky is falling.

Do you WANT radiation to kill everyone?

Or do you WANT to try to stop it from happening?



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:01 AM
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isn't any bedrock under Fukushima


Call the tectonic scientists... you have found the one place on earth that doesn't have any bedrock underneath it!

Congratulations!

You have single handedly proven wrong the entire notion of geological science, plate tectonics, sedimentation, etc....

You r so smrt!!!!

/sarcasm

Yes there is.


After reading your reply.... you have to be an industry shill or you just in the habit of talking about something of which you have very little if any knowledge.


Neither, actually.

So....

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posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:05 AM
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You can not win a battle of wits with a unarmed man.........educate yourself...


and yes the rock deep beneath the plant is known as mud rock....... look it up
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posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:08 AM
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You can not win a battle of wits with a unarmed man


Believe me, I'm trying.


and yes the rock deep beneath the plant is known as mud rock....... look it up


I'm not going to source your arguments FOR you...

Get real.

If you are going to argue a point, YOU provide the sources.

Duh.



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:12 AM
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In order to build the plant - originally only Unit 1 - the upper sedimentary layers were excavated. These are Quaternary alluvial deposits composed of clay and sand which are friable or semi - hard (green and brown in the cross - section). Thus the plant was built on "mudrock" type sedimentary rock (yellow in the cross - section), which is a muddy rock composed of clay and silt (v ery fine sand). But the term "muddy" does not mean that the rock is soft. It simply means that it is a rock whose matrix is clay; it is also called " argillite "



ddata.over-blog.com...


there I did your homework for you.... took all of 5 minutes to look it up



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:14 AM
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It would be more like an Olympic size swimming pool and an eye drop of piss....if I was thirsty enough...



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:17 AM
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there I did your homework for you.... took all of 5 minutes to look it up


And what is under this?



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:22 AM
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You do know argillite is bedrock right? It's pretty much what Japan, China, New Zealand and Australia are made out of....

I believe Japan and NZ are complete argillite. It is a very hard Bedrock.



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:24 AM
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The evidence speaks for itself....... I have nothing else to say other than they are not going to freeze the ground...the logistics of this make it damn near impossible and would most likely cost more than the country of Japan is willing to spend...


In the end... they will walk away from the site... they really have no other choice at this point.


Tepco has already filed the paperwork to change their name and split themselves into smaller companies.... one of these will be responsible for Fukushima and that company can then be declared bankrupt without them losing the whole company.

The government of Japan should have stepped in 1,039 days ago... its too late now... all they can do is walk away and just like you, pretend that everything is going to be ok.....



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:28 AM
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I have nothing else to say other than they are not going to freeze the ground...the logistics of this make it damn near impossible and would most likely cost more than the country of Japan is willing to spend...


They are.

It doesn't

And only $470 million

www.cnn.com...


The government of Japan should have stepped in 1,039 days ago... its too late now... all they can do is walk away and just like you, pretend that everything is going to be ok.....


Then why are they actually BUILDING the ice wall?

I don't walk away, and I don't pretend.

I acknowledge reality, as opposed to screaming at the top of my lungs that the sky is falling, when it's just a little rain.


Grow up, man.... it's not the end of the world.

Just like chernobyl wasn't the end of the world.



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