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EnPassant
reply to post by SecTownKid
One way to resolve this is to find out what is happening with abductions. Therein you will find the answer to the whole phenomena. The secrecy is encouraged by the aliens themselves. It is they who control the level of belief among people. If belief is waning they can jack it up if they want to. They are playing a grand mind game with everyone.
Scdfa
reply to post by lampsalot
Relax, folks, "UFO" interest is doing just fine. It isn't dead, dying, mortally wounded, critically ill, achy, feverish, or congested.
To say that it "peaked" in the 1990's is absurd on the face of it. Youtube didn't even start until 2005, and its impact has been astonishing.
Let me ask you a question do you really think aliens would travel light years at great expense to grab someone seems to usually be drunk red necks to do medical tests.
Scdfa
reply to post by dragonridr
Let me ask you a question do you really think aliens would travel light years at great expense to grab someone seems to usually be drunk red necks to do medical tests.
Whoa, now... a lot of assumptions there...
Light years? Says who? What about an inter-dimensional hypothesis? Or a sub-terrainian origin? Or a moon or planet in our solar system?
Great expense? Really? How much does it cost?
Now, I'm curious as to why you state that alien abductees/contactees are usually drunk? Has that been reported in many investigated abduction reports?
Or "rednecks"? What states do you think have the most UFO activity, or the most reported abductions? Betty and Barney Hill were in New Hampshire. Whitley Streiber was in New York. Travis Walton was in Arizona.
Medical tests? The reports tell of surgical implantation and removal of tracking devices, and surgical removal of reproductive cells, sometimes even a developing fetus, for the purpose of a multi-generational alien/ human hybridization program. I think dismissing that as "medical tests" is being glib.
Scdfa
reply to post by dragonridr
Let me ask you a question do you really think aliens would travel light years at great expense to grab someone seems to usually be drunk red necks to do medical tests.
Whoa, now... a lot of assumptions there...
Light years? Says who?
What about an inter-dimensional hypothesis?
Or a sub-terrainian origin?
Or a moon or planet in our solar system?
Great expense? Really? How much does it cost?
Scdfa
reply to post by IShotMyLastMuse
Gosh, then I guess there's no point in you sticking around to talk about aliens that don't exist. We'll certainly miss your input. Best of luck in future endeavors.
Hollow Earth Hypothesis eh? That was well refuted like 70 years ago.
rip to Proxima Centauri look like childsplay in comparison.
That's hard science. That's math. That's physics.
We've visted them all (planets and moons in the solar system). No aliens.
But in science we deal with the probable and if you are an advanced species why would you hide from us?
Scdfa
reply to post by JadeStar
Hollow Earth Hypothesis eh? That was well refuted like 70 years ago.
Please don't fabricate my statements. I never mentioned the Earth being hollow. A subterranean explanation has been discussed quite seriously in recent years by people like the late Mack Tonnes. I personally have a different opinion as to origin. I'm less likely to dispute the existence of underground and undersea alien bases, however.
rip to Proxima Centauri look like childsplay in comparison.
That's hard science. That's math. That's physics.
Yes, and I'm certain no intelligent beings anywhere in the universe ever managed to advance beyond very early 21st century Earth. After all, our Science has learned everything, right?
Looking back little more than a single lifetime, the only way off the ground was a hot air balloon.
Now, Voyager may have just left the Heliosphere.
To believe the current limitations to our understanding are the very limits of scientific understanding? Unfounded. Pure hubris. What an unlikely, tenuous belief.
We've visted them all (planets and moons in the solar system). No aliens.
We have sent rovers to Mars, does that count as visiting?
We certainly haven't landed even unmanned probes on every moon.
But in science we deal with the probable and if you are an advanced species why would you hide from us?
I'm not so sure hovering over the busiest airport in America in broad daylight qualifies as "hiding". Or hovering over the U.S. Capitol building for a weekend. Or flying slowly over several states in a mile-wide craft. Or being witnessed by 20,000 people in the Hudson Valley. Not at all effective displays of "hiding".edit on 14-1-2014 by Scdfa because: (no reason given)
Scdfa
reply to post by dragonridr
Thanks for clearing that up from me. Forgive me if I'm hesitant to subscribe to the views of the semi-literate. I don't mean that as an insult, English may be your second language, and it is a difficult language to learn. It is very difficult to refute your post because it contains so many errors in spelling, grammar, punctuation, and even basic sentence structure. These factors do not point to a keen intellect, in my experience. Don't you read through your writings before posting? That may help you to communicate more effectively, if not more convincingly.
You haven't yet answered my earlier questions regarding what evidence you have that most abductees are drunk, or that they are usually rednecks.
From what I know, I'm of the opinion that neither the Hills nor Whitley Streiber are lying, but a good deal of what you have written appears to be untrue. That which I can decipher, anyway.
Dont like the message so attack the messenger sorry guy to burst your bubble. As far as keen intellect your the one who believed in the hoax not me as i said do some research.Anyone stupid enough to believe something without looking in to the facts shows a severe lack of intellect as you put it.Oh and further your point i can actually speak four languages how many can you speak? There are we done insulting others do you feel better now?
Scdfa
reply to post by dragonridr
Dont like the message so attack the messenger sorry guy to burst your bubble. As far as keen intellect your the one who believed in the hoax not me as i said do some research.Anyone stupid enough to believe something without looking in to the facts shows a severe lack of intellect as you put it.Oh and further your point i can actually speak four languages how many can you speak? There are we done insulting others do you feel better now?
You speak four languages? That is impressive. There is no shame in English not being your native tongue, if that is the case.
This post has far fewer misspellings and the sentence structure is greatly improved, thank you for taking the extra time to make sure your points are clear. Although, punctuation is clearly not your friend. Commas are just not in your wheelhouse, apparently. Just in the single paragraph I quote above, you are missing two periods, a question mark, and NINE commas. Depending on your emphasis. Had you submitted this to my fifth-grade teacher, you'd be seeing a lot of red ink and a very low number. Still, I'm not insulting you, so don't take it that way, English can be difficult.
So, do you take a balloon to work every morning? How about a helicopter or airplane?
Why not?
Oh that's right, because it's not such a trivial thing to fly, even today, over a century after the invention of heavier than air flight.
What makes you think none of that can't be explained by other more prosaic things than aliens?
Surely hovering over a busy airport with plenty of tourists with cameras would produce plenty of pictures. Right?
Well if you must know i grew up in germany that was the first language i learned picked up english when my parents moved to the states at 16. While in college learned to speak french then i had to spend 4 yrs in Saudi arabia where i learned to speak arabic. My grammar is allright english is hard in some respects the biggest problem is typing on my I phone it doesnt lend itself to editing.
Scdfa
reply to post by dragonridr
Well if you must know i grew up in germany that was the first language i learned picked up english when my parents moved to the states at 16. While in college learned to speak french then i had to spend 4 yrs in Saudi arabia where i learned to speak arabic. My grammar is allright english is hard in some respects the biggest problem is typing on my I phone it doesnt lend itself to editing.
Ah, so I was completely correct in guessing English was not your first language. I'm a keen observer, it seems. You speak more languages than I do, sir, I applaud your multilingualism. My intent was never to insult, it was I who was having difficulty understanding you.
Wo im Deutschland?