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While there is a genuine UFO phenomenon, we still can't quantify it entirely.
How on earth would you know whether it's genuine or not
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite
What about the hundreds of military men, FAA, government and civilian eyewitnesses of these craft? The soldiers and officers who spoke up after the Bentwaters incident, or two world renowned astronauts coming on record that they believe the UFO phenomenon is most likely explained by extraterrestrial presence? You do know there is a lot more to this than #ty youtube clips and crazy people making stuff up (ie Meier and Alex Collier)
Since you're basically saying these very credible people's opinions are irrational for being open to the possibilities, what do you propose these objects moving 1500 mph on radar could be? Or balls of light that move soundlessly and have been known to hover above nuclear storage facilities even shutting them off? It's cases like these that need to be taken very seriously and can't be written off as weather balloons and swamp gas.
They are not necessarily "ET" I agree with you there, but when you call people irrational for just laying the "ET" possibility on the table in my opinion this is detrimental (making people less likely to share their experiences or perspectives on what it could be- how are we to rule anything out?). I saw something that changed my view on UFOs forever, and honestly after seeing it I don't buy into the space alien explanation, because it looked more like energy. What if these things are inter dimensional beings and or unknown entities or pure energy and consciousness, what if they ARE the craft?
As you can see I have no idea what they are and am not pretending for one minute that I do, I just know they exist and weather balloons and swamp gas do not explain what I saw. What we're dealing with is so beyond what we know, making any judgement on possibilities at this point is not wise we need to study this more.. I wish the general public interest was higher so we can begin to understand what these things might be, half the people still don't even think they exist.
reply to post by dragonridr
My bad meant to say 15000 mph lol, anyway some of these objects reportedly stop abruptly and make right angle turns at these speeds..
But yeah, I definitely hear what you're saying and don't take it the wrong way. I think UFOs are too associated with aliens and we could be missing something here.. what I saw was definitely not an "aircraft" and I don't think it was a ghost or anything it was obviously physical and could manifest itself. It moved so fast and so brightly it left all kinds of tracers in my eyes for minutes after, could be some kind of natural phenomena.
Aliens or not, I hope people keep an open mind to the possibilities and use their own mind, without the preconceived filters of media and popular opinion. just go out to the southwest desert to camp out for a week and I guarantee you will see some # that will leave you changed if you go into it with the right intent.
I think this is in the publics interest to study and learn more about. I think the notion that they are aliens is kind of off and a huge jump but in my eyes, if they are intelligent or even exist parallel to us on a different frequency, hell that would be just as cool if not more mind #ing.
reply to post by lampsalot
There could be two reasons for this; the lack of evidence and the lack of any recent major sightings.
Since you're basically saying these very credible people's opinions are irrational for being open to the possibilities, what do you propose these objects moving 1500 mph on radar could be?
Or balls of light that move soundlessly and have been known to hover above nuclear storage facilities even shutting them off?
It's cases like these that need to be taken very seriously and can't be written off as weather balloons and swamp gas.
... but when you call people irrational for just laying the "ET" possibility on the table in my opinion this is detrimental (making people less likely to share their experiences or perspectives ...
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite
Confirmation bias works both ways.
We do still live in a world where stories have enough worth that people are convicted of crimes on a daily basis because of witness stories. The fact of the matter is that "stories" (aka: testimony) are evidence. While it's not always the strongest form of evidence, it is often more than enough to cost someone their freedom in society.
Testimony is valid evidence, and from top military brass, to airline pilots, to FAA executives, scientists, cabinet level international politicians, intelligence officers, astronauts, and more... there is a preponderance of the evidence that earth has been visited, and that we are not alone in the universe.edit on 1/10/14 by redmage because: (no reason given)
Quite an interesting situation. "Interest peaked" decades ago, yet polls have shown that belief "we are not alone" are at resounding highs.
from everything I hear and read and see about ufo's in print or on tv, I would say the interest has never been higher.