Obama's Panel urges new curbs on surveillance by U.S., page 1

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 01:47 PM

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Hey ATS!
I heard about this on my local NPR the other night and hadn't seen it discussed on here yet. Though Im not sure if this deserves its own thread or if its better suited as added info on another thread. Move as needed.

The panel also urged legislation that would require the FBI to obtain judicial approval before it can use a national security letter or administrative subpoena to obtain Americans’ financial, phone and other records. That would eliminate one of the tool’s main attractions: that it can be employed quickly without court approval.

So Mr. Obama back in August or so had set-up his own review board to look over the NSA and see what can be done to make the people happy.

It has been said by some that most of the recommendations by the board were fairly radical considering this is the prez's own review board. Their recommendations were unforeseen by anyone. But, the truth is I like seeing it...

They even went outside their scope and recommended splitting the NSA from the pentagon. Thats not even something they were asked to look into.

Anyway, there's alot to say about this so have at it.

LINKY

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Aleister

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 01:50 PM

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The members of this panel should have their phones tapped, their homes bugged, and their mail read and photographed for daring to suggest this nonsense. Where do they think they live, America?

Chickensalad

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 01:54 PM

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StarTribune
Common Dream
The Verge
Washington Times

Here are a few more viewpoints on the matter.

xuenchen

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 01:55 PM
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Sounds like more puppy-petting and kitten-brushing to just make people think they are doing something.

More money spent on endless reports and recommendations that go nowhere.

If the whole spying exposed thing had never happened then would they have told us anyway?

No of course not.

They even have conflicting court decisions to keep everybody wondering.

gladtobehere

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 02:22 PM
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reply to post by xuenchen

Agreed.

During the next election, they can say that they "did something".

marg6043

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 02:29 PM
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The NSA is not like the FBI, one agency was established to monitor the other one, the only problem is that while the FBI is still every much government run, the NSA has become a bastardized spying agency that have too many private interest behind running the whole show without monitoring as those that are there to do the monitoring are also doing the spying under paid by the private interest.

They NSA has grown too big for the good of the government and the population, having a spying entity working for private interest in order to control government and population makes them on itself a corrupted entity with dictatorial powers base on information that they can used for control.

The NSA needs to be disbanded, plain and simple, is not longer an agency that can be trusted.
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xuenchen

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 02:46 PM
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I also think that the NSA is largely used to conduct selective blackmail and corporate and commercial espionage.

Probably on a world wide scale as well as local.

The International corporations can get better info on small competitors.

Big money involved.

marg6043

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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And that is what is running plenty behind the NSA since is under the control of private interest contracting agencies.

Money talks and BS walks, they have amassed a good amount of information from the government and politicians to control policies, laws and bills, this makes the NSA a corrupted agency without control with the power to silence permanently those that goes against them, when even our own government can not even control them you can tell that they no longer answer to the government, actually they sell the information they want to sell about the population in the nation and abroad to keep the government happy.

And yes I am 100% positive that they are blackmailing the government at will along with the supreme court members.

Chickensalad

posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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Its the same thing Hoover did after establishing the FBI.

No one is in control anymore.

Chickensalad

posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 01:10 PM
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I gotta say though...
It sure is nice to see that The People can put enough pressure on Obama to get this review board.

Im sure is just a faux pas and nothing will come of it though.