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That's quite the far reaching conclusion. There is no proof. Over 150, 000 people die each day, yet out of all these cases, not a single anything has been found to remain. Would you consider that evidence? Surely with so much "proof" you can find something of note that is left behind.
Human experience is proof. What single thing are you talking about should be found to remain? Explain that because I am lost.
There may be proof.. you just haven't accepted it as proof.
How many of those deaths will show us something about an afterlife? None of them, because only the living speak of afterlives. How much do the living know about what happens after death? None of them—they're all alive, and if they claim otherwise, then I dare say they are manipulating the truth for their own means.
Oh you have youtube videos.
You can go about your business...
OH, you have DENIAL...
There's people with evidence, and without evidence.
Is attempting to ridicule your opponent a meaningful method of debate?
That's all you've done since you 'arrived' on the thread. You haven't shown ANY indication of doing research, or of looking at the provided materials with an open mind.
It seems to be the going rate around here.
If you cannot provide an argument and then resort to attacking the one you're talking to, like everyone has so far done in this thread, you only serve to provide a good example of what it means to be a dogmatic fundamentalist.
“'Survival of human consciousness past the point of biological death is a fact.' That will seem an extraordinary claim to some, and they may reasonably demand extraordinary evidence to support it. Carter has both made the claim and provided the evidence. He has also convincingly demolished attempts to explain it away with unsupported dogmas such as super-ESP.
Fundamentalist materialists should take note and avoid this book like the plague. It could make the foundations of their faith crumble and bring the whole condemned structure crashing down on their heads.”
Addiction to the materialistic paradigm has wreaked immense havoc upon the world over the last few centuries. Many believe it has brought us to the brink of an apocalypse. Chris Carter opens this marvelous book with a statement of concurrence with philosopher David Griffen on the current dire predicament wrought by this addiction, and how it has reached a crucial juncture.
Coming to know that our souls do not die with our bodies, but have a much grander role on the stage of eternity, offers a glorious reprieve from this ignominious fate that is the inevitable result of limited materialistic beliefs.
This book proceeds through a detailed review of reincarnation, apparitions and messages from the dead.
In my opinion, he establishes the existence of the afterlife beyond a reasonable doubt. I congratulate him on such a solid synthesis of the relevant data and arguments, both for and against.”
Eben Alexander III, MD
Author of Neurosurgeon, Near-Death Experiencer
When seen as a counter culture status quo, his posts can remind us of exactly how far in the other "direction" perspectives can go.
What mechanism do you think works behind the scenes on this, and how might we better understand and explore it?
the action or fact of dying or being killed; the end of the life of a person or organism: I don't believe in life after death | an increase in deaths from skin cancer | [ as modifier ] : a death sentence.
• the state of being dead: even in death, she was beautiful.
• the permanent ending of vital processes in a cell or tissue.
• ( Death ) [ in sing. ] the personification of the power that destroys life, often represented in art and literature as a skeleton or an old man holding a scythe.
• [ in sing. ] the destruction or permanent end of something: the death of her hopes.
The fact is that in the USA alone, 600 people a day are 'brought back' from 'clinical death' to tell tales of OBEs/NDEs, and describe their experiences - and there are WITNESSES that back up what they claim.
Sad to see how people are so locked in - unwilling to step outside their 'comfort zones.' I know it's hard, and can be stressful - but, in my opinion, that's the only way we continue to learn. By looking at BOTH SIDES.
Quite sad indeed.
which are the musings of a philosopher.
What mechanism do you think works behind the scenes on this
and how might we better understand
and explore it?
Do you think a mechanism is necessary?
Do you think that our current understanding is lacking?
Do you think mysticism is unable to explore it?