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posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 07:19 AM
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rickymouse
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Many allergies are from cross reactions. Others are from allergies like that of peanuts or bananas putting our body into a defensive state. For some people peanuts are a deadly allergy while others have minor problems with consuming them. Some people can eat lots of peanuts with no problem. Everyone is different, being different than another person does not make you flawed. Some people treat people who have intollerances as if they are inferior, yet they do not look at what they themselves avoid eating saying their actions are normal. People do not need a doctor to try to figure out if they have a food intolerance or allergy. They don't need proof that they shouldn't eat something regularly. I can eat tomatoes about one meal a week but if I overdo it I have problems. That is a problem with the tomato, not with me. I don't totally avoid things either but I will never believe tomatoes are good for me on a daily basis. I also cannot usually eat bananas on the same day I eat potatoes, but for some reason, the way the potato is prepared makes a difference. I'm still trying to figure out why the difference. It is nice having puzzles to figure out. It will take me years of observation to decode this one because I hate the reaction I get if I screw up.


It's a YMMV thing, and the best thing to do, as ever, is to listen to your body - it has its own wisdom. OH! I just saw the "new" new emoticons for the first time - better, but I'm underwhelmed. Mostly green? Ewww...




posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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Aleister

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Aleister
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Good post. The people over at Watercure.com believe that asthma is a symptom of dehydration, although severe cases may be much more. They claim to cure asthma attacks by putting a little salt on the tongue and drinking two glasses of water.


Well that is just pure crap. Asthma is not caused by dehydration.


Then what is it caused by? Isn't it odd that "nobody" really knows.

A summary of water and salt curing asthma, from the site Watercure.com:

www.watercures.org...


Lack of proper hydration it one of the key causes of asthma. Once air enters our nose, it is divided and caused to twist and turn as it ends the body. The turbulence an inhalation encounters is part of moisturizing the air before it reaches the lungs. The air proceeds down the bronchioles. These are tubes that resemble an upside down tree. Attached to the end of the branches of the bronchioles are air sacs called alveoli. The air sacs are dependent on surface tension to work properly. In a state of dehydration, the air sacs signal to the bronchioles to stop the flow of air and continued dehydration. If dehydrated and with out the surface tension of the moisture on the surface of the alveoli, the lungs would collapse. The solution to allow the air sacs to send the open signal is rehydration.


And the folks at Watercure2.com once put up $50,000 to be paid to any child they couldn't "cure" of asthma. I don't know what became of that bet, haven't looked at the site in years until now, but here are some testimonials from the website:

watercure2.org...

One of many:


This letter is In appreciation for the information that you have presented concerning water dehydration and asthma. As you recall I have had adult onset asthma since I was in college and have had many bouts of anaphylaxis which were life threatening. Due to the information that you have provided I have been able to ameliorate a cure for my own asthma with water and salt intake. I have been asthma free approximately 1.5 years and have not had any reactions to the allergens of the past. The information has been most helpful In making me aware of when and how to drink water and take salt in order to hydrate myself and prevent any recurrence of asthma.
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I've got a pretty good idea of what causes asthma.
Strangely it's not just one factor but several different ones and none of them have anything to do with dehydration or salt.

All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction.
It doesn't cure it at all.

How do I know?
I used to be a paediatric cardio-respiratory physiologist specialising in asthma.


However, you have linked to the same site several times now so I'm guessing you must have something to gain from doing so.



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 12:17 PM
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If you feel comfortable sharing, could you define the causes as you found them to be true? Would be interesting for sure!

There is SO much information, mis-information, BS, and conjecture involving this chronic-ailment.I believe it has to do with the unique structure of lung tissue and the ability for it to function and accept oxygen?

I will mention that when I literally became "overcome" with symptoms ie, from a strong, fit person who at the time struggled to breathe walking across the room (this was about 9 years ago) was when some of the fields that surround my home were "cleared and plowed under" during an extremely hot and dry-spell of weather.

An "old school" rancher or farmer would have NEVER done this but there is a new "know it all" breed of them now...

I suspect a bacteria at work?

Thanks!



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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irishchic
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If you feel comfortable sharing, could you define the causes as you found them to be true? Would be interesting for sure!

There is SO much information, mis-information, BS, and conjecture involving this chronic-ailment.I believe it has to do with the unique structure of lung tissue and the ability for it to function and accept oxygen?

I will mention that when I literally became "overcome" with symptoms ie, from a strong, fit person who at the time struggled to breathe walking across the room (this was about 9 years ago) was when some of the fields that surround my home were "cleared and plowed under" during an extremely hot and dry-spell of weather.

An "old school" rancher or farmer would have NEVER done this but there is a new "know it all" breed of them now...

I suspect a bacteria at work?

Thanks!


Well that's the issue, there isn't one cause.
Websites like the one shamelessly linked to try to make out that there's one cause and one cure but there isn't.

Asthma is caused by several different factors, I'm afraid I can't provide specifics though only generalisations as asthma is really only a term which fits specific symptoms, it's a condition rather than a disease.
Certainly if you develop asthma at a young age this could be genetic, did your parents have asthma, eczema or other allergies?
It could be due to the fact your parents or someone in the house was a smoker, it could be down to environmental pollution.
Each individual's asthma may have a slightly different aetiology.

Getting asthma when you're an adult is different though as this is almost always down to external factors. Without a doubt microbial infections can cause late onset asthma as can chronic exposure to irritants.
In the case of microbial infections which are usually viral rather than bacterial, getting rid of the virus won't stop the asthma as the damage is already done.

Treatment wise I wouldn't like to offer any suggestions as I'm not your physician other than to say that finding out what your triggers are and limiting exposure to them is always helpful.



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 01:18 PM
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Good info, thank you!

I have the beast "under cotrol" these days BUT am also very aware that it could rear it's head again at any time!



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 01:32 PM
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Pardon?

Aleister

OccamsRazor04

Aleister
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Good post. The people over at Watercure.com believe that asthma is a symptom of dehydration, although severe cases may be much more. They claim to cure asthma attacks by putting a little salt on the tongue and drinking two glasses of water.


Well that is just pure crap. Asthma is not caused by dehydration.


Then what is it caused by? Isn't it odd that "nobody" really knows.

A summary of water and salt curing asthma, from the site Watercure.com:

www.watercures.org...


Lack of proper hydration it one of the key causes of asthma. Once air enters our nose, it is divided and caused to twist and turn as it ends the body. The turbulence an inhalation encounters is part of moisturizing the air before it reaches the lungs. The air proceeds down the bronchioles. These are tubes that resemble an upside down tree. Attached to the end of the branches of the bronchioles are air sacs called alveoli. The air sacs are dependent on surface tension to work properly. In a state of dehydration, the air sacs signal to the bronchioles to stop the flow of air and continued dehydration. If dehydrated and with out the surface tension of the moisture on the surface of the alveoli, the lungs would collapse. The solution to allow the air sacs to send the open signal is rehydration.


And the folks at Watercure2.com once put up $50,000 to be paid to any child they couldn't "cure" of asthma. I don't know what became of that bet, haven't looked at the site in years until now, but here are some testimonials from the website:

watercure2.org...

One of many:


This letter is In appreciation for the information that you have presented concerning water dehydration and asthma. As you recall I have had adult onset asthma since I was in college and have had many bouts of anaphylaxis which were life threatening. Due to the information that you have provided I have been able to ameliorate a cure for my own asthma with water and salt intake. I have been asthma free approximately 1.5 years and have not had any reactions to the allergens of the past. The information has been most helpful In making me aware of when and how to drink water and take salt in order to hydrate myself and prevent any recurrence of asthma.
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I've got a pretty good idea of what causes asthma.
Strangely it's not just one factor but several different ones and none of them have anything to do with dehydration or salt.

All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction.
It doesn't cure it at all.

How do I know?
I used to be a paediatric cardio-respiratory physiologist specialising in asthma.

However, you have linked to the same site several times now so I'm guessing you must have something to gain from doing so.


Alright, please apologize for your last line, and for your later post of "shamelessly linked to" regarding myself and those wonderful websites. I'm passing along information I know that other people may not know, and this is information which will almost certainly help them and may save the lives of other people they know. I have nothing to gain from it other than continuing my habit of sharing information. And I will again suggest that people read the data I've linked at watercure.com and watercure2.com.

Here is your key line above: "All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction."

Isn't that what kills hundreds if not thousands of people a year? Kills children? And you accuse me of having "something to gain" when you made much of your living in the field and are not saying "Good job, Al, for telling people how to relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction."

And after working in the field you have a "pretty good idea" of what causes asthma. Well, ah, congrats?

Folks, please study the watercure data, and find out things that apparently those working in the field aren't telling you about. If I've said it once I've said it at least three times on this site: Deny ignorance.

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posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 04:54 PM
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Aleister

Pardon?

Aleister

OccamsRazor04

Aleister
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Good post. The people over at Watercure.com believe that asthma is a symptom of dehydration, although severe cases may be much more. They claim to cure asthma attacks by putting a little salt on the tongue and drinking two glasses of water.


Well that is just pure crap. Asthma is not caused by dehydration.


Then what is it caused by? Isn't it odd that "nobody" really knows.

A summary of water and salt curing asthma, from the site Watercure.com:

www.watercures.org...


Lack of proper hydration it one of the key causes of asthma. Once air enters our nose, it is divided and caused to twist and turn as it ends the body. The turbulence an inhalation encounters is part of moisturizing the air before it reaches the lungs. The air proceeds down the bronchioles. These are tubes that resemble an upside down tree. Attached to the end of the branches of the bronchioles are air sacs called alveoli. The air sacs are dependent on surface tension to work properly. In a state of dehydration, the air sacs signal to the bronchioles to stop the flow of air and continued dehydration. If dehydrated and with out the surface tension of the moisture on the surface of the alveoli, the lungs would collapse. The solution to allow the air sacs to send the open signal is rehydration.


And the folks at Watercure2.com once put up $50,000 to be paid to any child they couldn't "cure" of asthma. I don't know what became of that bet, haven't looked at the site in years until now, but here are some testimonials from the website:

watercure2.org...

One of many:


This letter is In appreciation for the information that you have presented concerning water dehydration and asthma. As you recall I have had adult onset asthma since I was in college and have had many bouts of anaphylaxis which were life threatening. Due to the information that you have provided I have been able to ameliorate a cure for my own asthma with water and salt intake. I have been asthma free approximately 1.5 years and have not had any reactions to the allergens of the past. The information has been most helpful In making me aware of when and how to drink water and take salt in order to hydrate myself and prevent any recurrence of asthma.
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I've got a pretty good idea of what causes asthma.
Strangely it's not just one factor but several different ones and none of them have anything to do with dehydration or salt.

All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction.
It doesn't cure it at all.

How do I know?
I used to be a paediatric cardio-respiratory physiologist specialising in asthma.

However, you have linked to the same site several times now so I'm guessing you must have something to gain from doing so.


Alright, please apologize for your last line, and for your later post of "shamelessly linked to" regarding myself and those wonderful websites. I'm passing along information I know that other people may not know, and this is information which will almost certainly help them and may save the lives of other people they know. I have nothing to gain from it other than continuing my habit of sharing information. And I will again suggest that people read the data I've linked at watercure.com and watercure2.com.

Here is your key line above: "All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction."

Isn't that what kills hundreds if not thousands of people a year? Kills children? And you accuse me of having "something to gain" when you made much of your living in the field and are not saying "Good job, Al, for telling people how to relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction."

And after working in the field you have a "pretty good idea" of what causes asthma. Well, ah, congrats?

Folks, please study the watercure data, and find out things that apparently those working in the field aren't telling you about. If I've said it once I've said it at least three times on this site: Deny ignorance.

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Yes I do have a pretty good idea what causes it. I outlined it above but just to repeat, asthma is a condition rather than a disease and as such doesn't have single cause. It can be a single or multiple factors. As such a cure for one factor may not affect another as effectively.
Water and salt will only relieve bronchospasm by inhaling it in a nebulised form. If sufferers have access to a nebuliser then they probably have their medication or saline with them too. It's when they haven't then the problems occur.
Drinking water won't help in this situation which is why I haven't patted you the back.
It's not a cure either as is stated on the site you're so obviously promoting.

Please deny ignorance but don't replace it with bull and misinformation.



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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Pardon?

Aleister

Pardon?

Aleister

OccamsRazor04

Aleister
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
 


Good post. The people over at Watercure.com believe that asthma is a symptom of dehydration, although severe cases may be much more. They claim to cure asthma attacks by putting a little salt on the tongue and drinking two glasses of water.


Well that is just pure crap. Asthma is not caused by dehydration.


Then what is it caused by? Isn't it odd that "nobody" really knows.

A summary of water and salt curing asthma, from the site Watercure.com:

www.watercures.org...


Lack of proper hydration it one of the key causes of asthma. Once air enters our nose, it is divided and caused to twist and turn as it ends the body. The turbulence an inhalation encounters is part of moisturizing the air before it reaches the lungs. The air proceeds down the bronchioles. These are tubes that resemble an upside down tree. Attached to the end of the branches of the bronchioles are air sacs called alveoli. The air sacs are dependent on surface tension to work properly. In a state of dehydration, the air sacs signal to the bronchioles to stop the flow of air and continued dehydration. If dehydrated and with out the surface tension of the moisture on the surface of the alveoli, the lungs would collapse. The solution to allow the air sacs to send the open signal is rehydration.


And the folks at Watercure2.com once put up $50,000 to be paid to any child they couldn't "cure" of asthma. I don't know what became of that bet, haven't looked at the site in years until now, but here are some testimonials from the website:

watercure2.org...

One of many:


This letter is In appreciation for the information that you have presented concerning water dehydration and asthma. As you recall I have had adult onset asthma since I was in college and have had many bouts of anaphylaxis which were life threatening. Due to the information that you have provided I have been able to ameliorate a cure for my own asthma with water and salt intake. I have been asthma free approximately 1.5 years and have not had any reactions to the allergens of the past. The information has been most helpful In making me aware of when and how to drink water and take salt in order to hydrate myself and prevent any recurrence of asthma.
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I've got a pretty good idea of what causes asthma.
Strangely it's not just one factor but several different ones and none of them have anything to do with dehydration or salt.

All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction.
It doesn't cure it at all.

How do I know?
I used to be a paediatric cardio-respiratory physiologist specialising in asthma.

However, you have linked to the same site several times now so I'm guessing you must have something to gain from doing so.


Alright, please apologize for your last line, and for your later post of "shamelessly linked to" regarding myself and those wonderful websites. I'm passing along information I know that other people may not know, and this is information which will almost certainly help them and may save the lives of other people they know. I have nothing to gain from it other than continuing my habit of sharing information. And I will again suggest that people read the data I've linked at watercure.com and watercure2.com.

Here is your key line above: "All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction."

Isn't that what kills hundreds if not thousands of people a year? Kills children? And you accuse me of having "something to gain" when you made much of your living in the field and are not saying "Good job, Al, for telling people how to relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction."

And after working in the field you have a "pretty good idea" of what causes asthma. Well, ah, congrats?

Folks, please study the watercure data, and find out things that apparently those working in the field aren't telling you about. If I've said it once I've said it at least three times on this site: Deny ignorance.

edit on 8-1-2014 by Aleister because: (no reason given)
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Yes I do have a pretty good idea what causes it. I outlined it above but just to repeat, asthma is a condition rather than a disease and as such doesn't have single cause. It can be a single or multiple factors. As such a cure for one factor may not affect another as effectively.
Water and salt will only relieve bronchospasm by inhaling it in a nebulised form. If sufferers have access to a nebuliser then they probably have their medication or saline with them too. It's when they haven't then the problems occur.
Drinking water won't help in this situation which is why I haven't patted you the back.
It's not a cure either as is stated on the site you're so obviously promoting.

Please deny ignorance but don't replace it with bull and misinformation.



Please deny ignorance but don't replace it with bull and misinformation.

Right back at ya. There is an entire body of work at the websites I'm "promoting" that says you are wrong. I'm not a doctor, but you are, which may give me an edge in this instance. The doctor who started watercure.com devoted his life to the data he discovered while under a death sentence in an Iranian prison. Doc vs Doc in this case.



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 08:32 PM
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i kid you not i just got out of the hospital today for an asthma attack. ive had asthma since i was 3. if salt and water were the cure i wouldnt have been there. so thats b.s.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 02:54 AM
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Aleister

Pardon?

Aleister

Pardon?

Aleister

OccamsRazor04

Aleister
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Good post. The people over at Watercure.com believe that asthma is a symptom of dehydration, although severe cases may be much more. They claim to cure asthma attacks by putting a little salt on the tongue and drinking two glasses of water.


Well that is just pure crap. Asthma is not caused by dehydration.


Then what is it caused by? Isn't it odd that "nobody" really knows.

A summary of water and salt curing asthma, from the site Watercure.com:

www.watercures.org...


Lack of proper hydration it one of the key causes of asthma. Once air enters our nose, it is divided and caused to twist and turn as it ends the body. The turbulence an inhalation encounters is part of moisturizing the air before it reaches the lungs. The air proceeds down the bronchioles. These are tubes that resemble an upside down tree. Attached to the end of the branches of the bronchioles are air sacs called alveoli. The air sacs are dependent on surface tension to work properly. In a state of dehydration, the air sacs signal to the bronchioles to stop the flow of air and continued dehydration. If dehydrated and with out the surface tension of the moisture on the surface of the alveoli, the lungs would collapse. The solution to allow the air sacs to send the open signal is rehydration.


And the folks at Watercure2.com once put up $50,000 to be paid to any child they couldn't "cure" of asthma. I don't know what became of that bet, haven't looked at the site in years until now, but here are some testimonials from the website:

watercure2.org...

One of many:


This letter is In appreciation for the information that you have presented concerning water dehydration and asthma. As you recall I have had adult onset asthma since I was in college and have had many bouts of anaphylaxis which were life threatening. Due to the information that you have provided I have been able to ameliorate a cure for my own asthma with water and salt intake. I have been asthma free approximately 1.5 years and have not had any reactions to the allergens of the past. The information has been most helpful In making me aware of when and how to drink water and take salt in order to hydrate myself and prevent any recurrence of asthma.
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I've got a pretty good idea of what causes asthma.
Strangely it's not just one factor but several different ones and none of them have anything to do with dehydration or salt.

All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction.
It doesn't cure it at all.

How do I know?
I used to be a paediatric cardio-respiratory physiologist specialising in asthma.

However, you have linked to the same site several times now so I'm guessing you must have something to gain from doing so.


Alright, please apologize for your last line, and for your later post of "shamelessly linked to" regarding myself and those wonderful websites. I'm passing along information I know that other people may not know, and this is information which will almost certainly help them and may save the lives of other people they know. I have nothing to gain from it other than continuing my habit of sharing information. And I will again suggest that people read the data I've linked at watercure.com and watercure2.com.

Here is your key line above: "All water and salt will do is relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction."

Isn't that what kills hundreds if not thousands of people a year? Kills children? And you accuse me of having "something to gain" when you made much of your living in the field and are not saying "Good job, Al, for telling people how to relieve symptoms of asthma, particularly broncho-constriction."

And after working in the field you have a "pretty good idea" of what causes asthma. Well, ah, congrats?

Folks, please study the watercure data, and find out things that apparently those working in the field aren't telling you about. If I've said it once I've said it at least three times on this site: Deny ignorance.

edit on 8-1-2014 by Aleister because: (no reason given)
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Yes I do have a pretty good idea what causes it. I outlined it above but just to repeat, asthma is a condition rather than a disease and as such doesn't have single cause. It can be a single or multiple factors. As such a cure for one factor may not affect another as effectively.
Water and salt will only relieve bronchospasm by inhaling it in a nebulised form. If sufferers have access to a nebuliser then they probably have their medication or saline with them too. It's when they haven't then the problems occur.
Drinking water won't help in this situation which is why I haven't patted you the back.
It's not a cure either as is stated on the site you're so obviously promoting.

Please deny ignorance but don't replace it with bull and misinformation.



Please deny ignorance but don't replace it with bull and misinformation.

Right back at ya. There is an entire body of work at the websites I'm "promoting" that says you are wrong. I'm not a doctor, but you are, which may give me an edge in this instance. The doctor who started watercure.com devoted his life to the data he discovered while under a death sentence in an Iranian prison. Doc vs Doc in this case.


But there isn't an "entire body of work" on the website at all. Not one bit.
There are lots of anonymous testimonials which as evidence of anything are completely worthless as anyone can write anything about anything without having to prove anything.
And the "esteemed" doctor, after a quick search on Medline, hasn't actually published ANY research into his cures. All he's done is published two editorials neither of which can be classed as evidence as he offers no supporting data. They are as credible as the anonymous testimonials.
So I'm afraid you've been duped.
Accept that and move on as promoting nonsense like this might actually harm someone.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:56 AM
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colormeinsane
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i kid you not i just got out of the hospital today for an asthma attack. ive had asthma since i was 3. if salt and water were the cure i wouldnt have been there. so thats b.s.


Whatever I say wouldn't be adequate for you and others who suffer from asthma. I don't have it, nor does anyone I know, so I'm speaking completely from things I've read on those two sites and from personal experience with hydrating myself daily after being very dehydrated for decades (my drinks of choice were Pepsi-cola and other soda, and milk and chocolate milk when I was younger, I don't even think I drank much water). Feeling and knowing the difference in myself, discussing it with other people, and then about a year into hydration finding out about that website and reading the Iranian Doctor's (Dr. F. Batmanghelidj) books and research, I've become a hydration advocate. From personal experience, talking, and reading, I've seen that all symptoms of a cold are usually dehydration, and many many other things fall into that category. But this thread is on asthma specifically, and all I can say is the book written by the doctor on hydration use for asthma and allergies made sense to me, judging solely on the other symptoms that I know dehydration causes, and may be worth at least looking into and researching for yourself.
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 04:06 AM
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But there isn't an "entire body of work" on the website at all. Not one bit.
There are lots of anonymous testimonials which as evidence of anything are completely worthless as anyone can write anything about anything without having to prove anything.
And the "esteemed" doctor, after a quick search on Medline, hasn't actually published ANY research into his cures. All he's done is published two editorials neither of which can be classed as evidence as he offers no supporting data. They are as credible as the anonymous testimonials.
So I'm afraid you've been duped.
Accept that and move on as promoting nonsense like this might actually harm someone.


The body of work I'm talking of is Dr. Batmanghelidj's books and other writings. As I said in the post above to the person suffering from asthma, I speak only from my own experience, which doesn't include asthma, and so I am judging the effects of hydration on asthma from trusting Dr. Batmanghelidij's claims because of the success I know that hydrating adequately has on other illnesses and symptoms.

It's possible I've been duped by his claims on asthma, I have no personal experience to back them up. It's also possible I haven't been duped, and there is something to it that even you may have missed. I guess all I can say on this is to get a couple of his books, specifically the one on asthma and allergies, to see if they have anything of use to your own knowledge base.


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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 04:25 AM
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Aleister

But there isn't an "entire body of work" on the website at all. Not one bit.
There are lots of anonymous testimonials which as evidence of anything are completely worthless as anyone can write anything about anything without having to prove anything.
And the "esteemed" doctor, after a quick search on Medline, hasn't actually published ANY research into his cures. All he's done is published two editorials neither of which can be classed as evidence as he offers no supporting data. They are as credible as the anonymous testimonials.
So I'm afraid you've been duped.
Accept that and move on as promoting nonsense like this might actually harm someone.


The body of work I'm talking of is Dr. Batmanghelidj's books and other writings. As I said in the post above to the person suffering from asthma, I speak only from my own experience, which doesn't include asthma, and so I am judging the effects of hydration on asthma from trusting Dr. Batmanghelidij's claims because of the success I know that hydrating adequately has on other illnesses and symptoms.

It's possible I've been duped by his claims on asthma, I have no personal experience to back them up. It's also possible I haven't been duped, and there is something to it that even you may have missed. I guess all I can say on this is to get a couple of his books, specifically the one on asthma and allergies, to see if they have anything of use to your own knowledge base.


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I'll pass on buying his books if you don't mind as I prefer proper scientific evidence rather than relying on anecdotes and poor understanding of physiology.
If the explanation of what causes asthma on the website is anything to go by then his book's not going to help in the slightest.
For starters any respiratory acidosis is CAUSED by the asthma attack rather than being the cause of it. Relieving the attack stops the acidosis, not the other way around.
Electrolyte imbalances have nothing to do with asthma attacks but they can be found in patients who are on regular asthma medication.
It seems the good doctor is adding 2+2 and coming up with potato.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 04:34 AM
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Fair enough, as I don't speak from personal experience. The other advice on the thread is very valuable and hopefully will assist readers. I still would advise getting the book, because passing on data means passing on all of it, and you may find something in there new and potentially useful. I'll sign off this thread because of my lack of experience with asthma, but do want to mention that the most common words used in hospital emergency rooms are "Push fluids".



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 04:49 AM
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Fair enough, as I don't speak from personal experience. The other advice on the thread is very valuable and hopefully will assist readers. I still would advise getting the book, because passing on data means passing on all of it, and you may find something in there new and potentially useful. I'll sign off this thread because of my lack of experience with asthma, but do want to mention that the most common words used in hospital emergency rooms are "Push fluids".


I'll save people buying the book.
Drink water instead of sugary and carbonated drinks. Drink at least a few litres a day.
You won't cure your asthma, cancer, diabetes or many of the other ailments and diseases mentioned on that website but you will feel a bit healthier.
Possibly.

Don't drink too much though as you will definitely cause an electrolyte imbalance and you may become hyponatraemic.

In an ER (or A&E if you're in the UK) fluids will only be given if the patient needs them i.e. due to blood loss or trauma.
They'll also be given if a patient requires intubation (assisted breathing) as they won't be able to take any fluids orally.
They don't just give them as routine.






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