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For the sake of argument, let’s admit that God exists.

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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:05 AM
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Maybe we all experience things differently but the nothing that i am talking about is right next to, if not, death. I mean no physical contact with any other person and also no contact with anything.




posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:07 AM
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daskakik
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Maybe we all experience things differently but the nothing that i am talking about is right next to, if not, death.

It is the death of the me - the individual - then there is nothing divided.
There is just WHAT IS.

WHAT IS is not a thing - it is everything/nothing.
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:10 AM
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Aphorism
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You dont know how God works.


Let me guess..in mysterious ways?


That was funny.




posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:18 AM
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daskakik
reply to post by galastry
 

Maybe we all experience things differently but the nothing that i am talking about is right next to, if not, death. I mean no physical contact with any other person and also no contact with anything.


have you experienced nothingness?



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:25 AM
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No, it was something else.

It doesn't matter and the fact is that we have gotten way offtopic.

God means different things to different people and no meaningful disccusion can be had if people don't agree about what they are discussing.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:28 AM
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daskakik
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No, it was something else.

Please can you say what this is the answer to?
What was something else?
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:28 AM
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reply to post by galastry
 

Yes.

For a short time.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:31 AM
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daskakik
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No, it was something else.

It doesn't matter and the fact is that we have gotten way offtopic.

God means different things to different people and no meaningful disccusion can be had if people don't agree about what they are discussing.


But its not about the meaningfull conversation now isnt it. The world is full of those but nothing will ever be found through them. Infact as long as god is thought as a thing these meaningfull conversation tend to turn into maniac people killing eachother because their thing is the real deal.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:32 AM
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galastry
have you experienced nothingness?

No thingness is all there ever is.
A word is not a thing but makes believe there are things.
Thinking/wording is thinging.
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:32 AM
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daskakik
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Yes.

For a short time.


Please do tell more



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:37 AM
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The death of me but I was still me so it could not have been, yet "I" was in nothingness.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:38 AM
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Itisnowagain

galastry
have you experienced nothingness?

No thingness is all there ever is.
A word is not a thing but makes believe there are things.
Thinking/wording is thinging.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yes. I fail to see the relevance though to This question appointed to another poster



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:45 AM
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daskakik
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The death of me but I was still me so it could not have been, yet "I" was in nothingness.

That which is real cannot die as it was never born. The sense of separateness dissolves so there is nothing divided (individual).



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:47 AM
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daskakik
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The death of me but I was still me so it could not have been, yet "I" was in nothingness.


Who or what did die then? and now you wait for death yes? because the nothingness is already experienced it is not scary.. instead quite peacefull.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:52 AM
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galastry

Itisnowagain

galastry
have you experienced nothingness?

No thingness is all there ever is.
A word is not a thing but makes believe there are things.
Thinking/wording is thinging.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yes. I fail to see the relevance though to This question appointed to another poster

Because the question 'have you experienced nothingness' makes it seem as though there is something other than nothingness.

The something is not a thing.
Something appears to be happening - it is nothing.
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 08:57 AM
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Itisnowagain

galastry

Itisnowagain

galastry
have you experienced nothingness?

No thingness is all there ever is.
A word is not a thing but makes believe there are things.
Thinking/wording is thinging.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yes. I fail to see the relevance though to This question appointed to another poster

Because the question 'have you experienced nothingness' makes it seem as though there is something other than nothingness.

The something is not a thing.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yes but you have to understand that "normal" human beigns operate in a World of things where there is an experiencer for these things. The question was needed.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 09:01 AM
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galastry

Itisnowagain

galastry

Itisnowagain

galastry
have you experienced nothingness?

No thingness is all there ever is.
A word is not a thing but makes believe there are things.
Thinking/wording is thinging.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yes. I fail to see the relevance though to This question appointed to another poster

Because the question 'have you experienced nothingness' makes it seem as though there is something other than nothingness.

The something is not a thing.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yes but you have to understand that "normal" human beigns operate in a World of things where there is an experiencer for these things. The question was needed.

The 'individual' (what you are calling 'normal human being') lives in a world of dream things. Words abstract what is and build a separate dream world for the illusionary separate individual to live in. The dream world is in time and space.
Really there is only timeless being.


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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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Itisnowagain

galastry

Itisnowagain

galastry

Itisnowagain

galastry
have you experienced nothingness?

No thingness is all there ever is.
A word is not a thing but makes believe there are things.
Thinking/wording is thinging.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yes. I fail to see the relevance though to This question appointed to another poster

Because the question 'have you experienced nothingness' makes it seem as though there is something other than nothingness.

The something is not a thing.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yes but you have to understand that "normal" human beigns operate in a World of things where there is an experiencer for these things. The question was needed.

The 'individual' lives in a world of dream things. Words abstract what is and build a separate dream world for the illusionary separate individual to live in. The dream world is in time and space.
Really there is only timeless being.



You sure do a fine job abstracting your own little world as your words have very thin relevance to the discussion yet again.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 09:15 AM
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galastry
You sure do a fine job abstracting your own little world as your words have very thin relevance to the discussion yet again.

There is only what is.
'What is' can appear as words telling stories of other - other times and other places. When and where (in what) do these words arise?

God is that in which all arises and subsides.


The world is not God, but it is, in a strong sense, "in" God. Not only do finite things have God as their cause; they cannot be conceived without God.

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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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Itisnowagain

galastry
You sure do a fine job abstracting your own little world as your words have very thin relevance to the discussion yet again.

There is only what is.
'What is' can appear as words telling stories of other - other times and other places. When and where (in what) do these words arise?

God is that in which all arises and subsides.


The world is not God, but it is, in a strong sense, "in" God. Not only do finite things have God as their cause; they cannot be conceived without God.

edit on 9-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Broken record?

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