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For the sake of argument, let’s admit that God exists.

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posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 11:35 PM
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WOW just WOW! you must be the prime example of a surrender monkey.

Dont think just follow the crowd like a lemming. thats the easy way.




posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 01:06 AM
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vethumanbeing
Itisnowagain
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ItisnowagainWhy have you filled your life full of tedious, boring book reading?


You are admitting you were an actual orally trained student of J. Krisnamurtis; and never read his published musings/thoughts?
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I have read books by J Kristnamurti - I never found any book I have read tedious or boring. I am not admitting that I was an actual orally trained student of anyone - not sure how you came to that conclusion.
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 01:29 AM
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God is not a thing. As a word it can be made one but then it is already a lie even before the first word has left mouth to explain it. What is that which is not a thing? It is not. And yet it consist of all things. Humans have a tendency to think of things and make points. Strongest thing of the all is the consept of seperate me. We speak "things are looking good for me". Want to know god? Step beyond the world of things.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 02:21 AM
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galastry
God is not a thing. As a word it can be made one but then it is already a lie even before the first word has left mouth to explain it. What is that which is not a thing? It is not. And yet it consist of all things. Humans have a tendency to think of things and make points. Strongest thing of the all is the consept of seperate me. We speak "things are looking good for me". Want to know god? Step beyond the world of things.

Totally agree.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 02:27 AM
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vethumanbeing
No here is an illusion; a virtual world you have the capacity to create drama day to day. Its not real. Here is not there, here is physical fake moviedome for you to progress your soul.
That which is seen 'here' is an illusion (the play of light - Lila) - it is that which is appearing to be seen. Is that which is 'seeing' an illusion? That which is seeing never appears to be seen.



Then how would you define yourself; as the ONE (or a partical of) living on earth incarnate? Does the One live here or as a field of 1s and 0s with dim conscious awarness trying to express or explain/define itself to itself using you as a subset of awareness to do so?

The unbounded is not defined - it has no edges or boundaries.
This is both existence and non existence - being and not being - all there is.
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 02:36 AM
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It is not a thing but it is all things?

A thing made of many things, a complex machine, is still a thing. A thing made of all things would still be a thing.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 02:39 AM
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What do you think about Spinozas view?

The world is not God, but it is, in a strong sense, "in" God. Not only do finite things have God as their cause; they cannot be conceived without God.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:05 AM
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Don't like it. Sounds to much like the christian's "god works in mysterious ways" and that just seems like a cop out to me.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:08 AM
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Spinoza sees God the say way as the Vedas do. Christianity's root is non duality.
The father and son are ONE.
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:16 AM
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daskakik
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It is not a thing but it is all things?

A thing made of many things, a complex machine, is still a thing. A thing made of all things would still be a thing.


Very true. This is in many beliefs thought to be nature of god. All is One.. and so one. But there is still a thing left. How can something be nothing and everything. You might notice the limitation of language here i still have to call IT a thing. It comes to the nature of things and goes to the very core nature of the universe. Out of nothing came something. The relation of nothingness and things holds answers.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:21 AM
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You left out the holy spirit but I still can't say that I agree with any of them.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:23 AM
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daskakik
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You left out the holy spirit but I still can't say that I agree with any of them.

The father and son are ONE - the whole spirit (holy spirit).



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:26 AM
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The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.

The unnamable is the eternally real.
Naming is the origin
of all particular things.

Free from desire, you realize the mystery.
Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations.

Yet mystery and manifestations
arise from the same source.
This source is called darkness.

Darkness within darkness.
The gateway to all understanding.
acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu...



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:30 AM
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Really couldn't say. I can only tell you what the RCC, et al. say about such things.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:32 AM
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daskakik
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Really couldn't say. I can only tell you what the RCC, et al. say about such things.

What is RCC, et al?
And what does RCC, et al say about such things?
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posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:34 AM
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Roman Catholic Church and those of similar thinking. They say it is a trinity.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:38 AM
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daskakik
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Roman Catholic Church and those of similar thinking. They say it is a trinity.

Do you believe what they say without looking deeper?



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:39 AM
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daskakik
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Roman Catholic Church and those of similar thinking. They say it is a trinity.

What are the three?



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:43 AM
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I'm an atheist so I don't believe what they do but, I do know what they believe.

They say that the three are father, son and the holy spirit.



posted on Jan, 9 2014 @ 03:45 AM
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daskakik
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I'm an atheist so I don't believe what they do but, I do know what they believe.

They say that the three are father, son and the holy spirit.


The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine persons or hypostases:[1] the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit; "one God in three persons". The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature".




"it is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds"

en.wikipedia.org...
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