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Christian Preppers.. WWJD?.. he would NOT be a prepper! you ALL FAIL!

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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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Different times but same problems: criminal govt ,dis-honest banking, poverty, disease, ridiculously high taxes and rampant immorality. Jesus' teachings still apply today. The point is, earn what you need for yourself and family but dont burden yourself pinching every penny.

Prosperity is not a sin, its a test. One can prosper without descending into greed.

One cant be tested by prosperity if others judge and mandate charity.

Like I said, its no one else's business.




posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 08:55 PM
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Jesus didn't advocate the total breakdown of society, either. How can I help care for the needy if I don't even have the means to care my own family? This is what a job allows me to do. It's not about worrying.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 09:02 PM
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It's pretty clear that the return of Jesus coincides with the end of things. Now I supposed if you subscribe to more gnostic teachings or certain teachings even within the orthodox denominations, it could simply mean that Christ returned because of the end of a life state.

Other teachings say it's because of the end of the world as it is today, of course, ironically, I see a lot of people on this site hoping for the end the system as it is never even considering how apocalyptic it would actually be all considerations of Messianic figure returning aside. Complete overhaul of the system in any way would mean catastrophic social upheaval which is seldom a shiny, happy affair.

I don't know why you feel the need to highlight Christians as though they're the only doomsayers when plenty of you know you are likewise hoping for global socialist revolution. Is it any wonder that preppers prep?



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 09:05 PM
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I don't know why you feel the need to highlight Christians as though they're the only doomsayers when plenty of you know you are likewise hoping for global socialist revolution. Is it any wonder that preppers prep?


This thread is based around Christianity...

Why would I not "highlight" the religion the thread is based on?




posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 09:24 PM
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This thread is a fail. Nothing but Christian bashing. If it were up to them, we'd all be exterminated.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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Akragon
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I don't know why you feel the need to highlight Christians as though they're the only doomsayers when plenty of you know you are likewise hoping for global socialist revolution. Is it any wonder that preppers prep?


This thread is based around Christianity...

Why would I not "highlight" the religion the thread is based on?



Hey, when someone snarks about how we're all hoping breathlessly for a catastrophic end of the world so we can see Jesus. I feel it's only fair to point out that half the people on this site are hoping for the same thing. I fail to see why it makes it worse that we're wanting to see Jesus as opposed to wanting to see a NWO rise from the ashes and over the bones of the old. Either way, a whole lot of people are going to die which is what I thought the derisive point was supposed to be.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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BELIEVERpriest
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This thread is a fail. Nothing but Christian bashing. If it were up to them, we'd all be exterminated.


I'm sure they'll get their chance, and likely sooner than they imagine. And they wonder why some Christians are preppers ...



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 10:02 PM
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Yes, much sooner. Check this out:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Im still working on it, so its not complete.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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Preparing a small amount of survival gear that can be transported regardless of belief is never a bad thing.
Just ask those that went though natural disasters.
My personal opinion is that no amount of supplies is going to help in the last part of what is called the "Great Tribulation" by Jesus. But it will most likely help in the first part of this event.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 11:57 PM
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Yes, the last part is when the trust in God will really have to see you through. One way or another, you will have to trust Him, and I'm of mixed thoughts as to whether I want to make it to the end or not. Honestly, it only matters so long as I have a youngster to watch over.



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 12:05 AM
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BELIEVERpriest
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Yes, much sooner. Check this out:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Im still working on it, so its not complete.


I think there are a lot of signs and clues that things are coming together. I don't know when exactly, but I've been called to the Book of Revelation for no real reason for a long time, since junior high/high school even though my denomination did not teach it. And I'll be surprised if I die an old woman, sleeping peacefully in my bed. Mind you, if that happens, it will be a nice surprise.



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 05:40 AM
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I imagine the OP was doing what almost everyone does, twist scripture. There is a verse where a single man comes to Jesus and asks what he must do. Jesus basically says follow the 10 commandments. The man replies I do. Jesus said give away your riches to the poor. The man was unable to do so and left. Jesus knew the man's heart, and knew what separated the man from God. It's not a command that ALL people give up all their wealth, it was a command to that one individual ... which would then apply to modern day people with that particular stumbling block. But the same is true for any other stumbling block. If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off.



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 06:04 AM
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Christian Preppers.. WWJD?.. he would NOT be a prepper! you ALL FAIL!

Hmmmmm.....

Proverbs 27:12 - “A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.”

NOAH. The ultimate prepper.
JOSEPH. Told everyone in Egypt to prep for a 7 year famine.
MOSES. 40 years prepping in the desert for war.
ELIJAH. A prophet who prepped for hard times.

Should Christians Prepare for Hard Times?


A New Testament example in the same vein is given in Acts 11:28-30. A prophet named Agabus received a warning from God that a “great dearth” (a food shortage) was imminent. The early Christian Church took the warning seriously and made such advance preparations as they could. The elders gathered up food supplies and sent Barnabas and Saul (later named “Paul”) to deliver the food to the brethren in Judea so they could survive the prophesied food shortage. The word received by Agabus must have specified that Judea was to be particularly hard hit by the food shortage for the Christians to direct their main food storage effort to that location. Again, we see the believers took the warning seriously and made advance preparations. There was no hint in any of these three examples that anyone thought the right approach was to “stand still and do nothing.” Both Old and New Testaments are consistent that when God warns his people about an impending danger, he expects them to show faith by acting on his warning and preparing for it.


God gives warnings so that those who believe in Him can prepare as best they can .... prepare spiritually and physically ... and all the while having total trust in God. (or at least trying to trust Him). God wouldn't warn of things to happen if He didn't expect people to prepare for them. That seems to be the purpose (or one of the purposes) behind the warnings - PREPARATION.



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 09:30 AM
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your OP is so black and white.

guns, being a tool, is ment to gather food and protect one’s self and family. If someone comes walking up to the gates begging for food, we would be charitable until it hurts, not blast them away wild wild west style.

if SHTF its going to be a sad time with my heart aches and challenging events.



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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Good post, star worthy even.

I will add Christians circa 66 AD prepared to flee Jerusalem so they never died in 70 AD when the Romans sacked the city.



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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I'm a Catholic and we are preppers. I guess I'm going to have to be a hypocrite by biblical standards, because I will not allow this to happen to me and my family if I can prevent it:




posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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FlyersFan

Christian Preppers.. WWJD?.. he would NOT be a prepper! you ALL FAIL!

Hmmmmm.....

Proverbs 27:12 - “A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.”

NOAH. The ultimate prepper.
JOSEPH. Told everyone in Egypt to prep for a 7 year famine.
MOSES. 40 years prepping in the desert for war.
ELIJAH. A prophet who prepped for hard times.

Should Christians Prepare for Hard Times?


A New Testament example in the same vein is given in Acts 11:28-30. A prophet named Agabus received a warning from God that a “great dearth” (a food shortage) was imminent. The early Christian Church took the warning seriously and made such advance preparations as they could. The elders gathered up food supplies and sent Barnabas and Saul (later named “Paul”) to deliver the food to the brethren in Judea so they could survive the prophesied food shortage. The word received by Agabus must have specified that Judea was to be particularly hard hit by the food shortage for the Christians to direct their main food storage effort to that location. Again, we see the believers took the warning seriously and made advance preparations. There was no hint in any of these three examples that anyone thought the right approach was to “stand still and do nothing.” Both Old and New Testaments are consistent that when God warns his people about an impending danger, he expects them to show faith by acting on his warning and preparing for it.


God gives warnings so that those who believe in Him can prepare as best they can .... prepare spiritually and physically ... and all the while having total trust in God. (or at least trying to trust Him). God wouldn't warn of things to happen if He didn't expect people to prepare for them. That seems to be the purpose (or one of the purposes) behind the warnings - PREPARATION.




I usually don't agree with much of what you post, but this is a GREAT example. Thank you. The warnings are very clear to me and my family.



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 01:46 PM
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BELIEVERpriest
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This thread is a fail. Nothing but Christian bashing. If it were up to them, we'd all be exterminated.


Christian Bashing? no.

Attempting to plant a seed in Christians minds that prepping is incongruent. SURE

Them? the prepper sellers are pushing an exterminate each other approach.

I would name the sites that I am referring to, but am unsure that is within T&C.

The shouter's 2 websites are the main ones.



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 01:48 PM
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"me and my family" .... Me, ME, me... My, MY, my..

erm, where is the community, the less fortunate?

Nope, new Christianity... ME ME ME, MY MY MY



posted on Jan, 6 2014 @ 01:51 PM
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camaro68ss
your OP is so black and white.

guns, being a tool, is ment to gather food and protect one’s self and family. If someone comes walking up to the gates begging for food, we would be charitable until it hurts, not blast them away wild wild west style.

if SHTF its going to be a sad time with my heart aches and challenging events.



I am not saying to be unarmed. but MOST of the prepper commercials and ads online are geared toward stocking ammunition.. for what? "when the hoardes come"

It is very greedy, and selfish to have people spending money on storing away food and ammo when there are needy people here, today, right now.

Oh, that's right the new Christians motto "God wants you to be rich"



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