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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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I just found this little proposed beauty.

Quite frankly I like it.

Would be a nice step and to me far better for interplanetary transportation than the Dragon capsules or other small capsule designs

What do you think? Dead end or another small step for mankind into our solar system?
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:34 PM
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dead end, they found after 2011 (date of the article) radiation in space is several times higher than previously though



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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Indigent
dead end, they found after 2011 (date of the article) radiation in space is several times higher than previously though


Not stoping used for the Dragon capsul for possible use for mars missions. If that can be used or adapted then this can.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:42 PM
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are you talking about the reality show or real space endeavors, because the first only have the chance of putting corpses on mars, not living human beings



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:49 PM
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crazyewok


I just found this little proposed beauty.

Quite frankly I like it.

Would be a nice step and to me far better for interplanetary transportation than the Dragon capsules or other small capsule designs

What do you think? Dead end or another small step for mankind into our solar system?
Sources
Wiki
Popular science


Well, it looks like the rumored Bigelow Aerospace based spaceship idea had legs after all.

I'm all for it. Build two very large ones to be used as Aldrin Cyclers between here and Mars and now you have your first interplanetary infrastructure.

Any ideas as to cost? Until they are paid for they will remain vaporware.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:50 PM
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Indigent
dead end, they found after 2011 (date of the article) radiation in space is several times higher than previously though


That's not true and you've misunderstood the research.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:52 PM
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JadeStar

Any ideas as to cost? Until they are paid for they will remain vaporware.


Not much considering $3.7 Billion is the tag. Which is pretty good as you would get multiple uses out of it.


And yeah same thought as you, you would have a good little bus run from Mars/Moon and Earth for any colonies that are set up.
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:53 PM
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Indigent
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are you talking about the reality show or real space endeavors, because the first only have the chance of putting corpses on mars, not living human beings


Dragon capusle is possibly going to be used for NASA as well as Mars one.
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:58 PM
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ok www.space.com...

radiation to a mars trip is just as bad as working in fukushima cleaning

fukushima.ans.org...

i misunderstood the research



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:18 PM
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crazyewok

JadeStar

Any ideas as to cost? Until they are paid for they will remain vaporware.


Not much considering $3.7 Billion is the tag. Which is pretty good as you would get multiple uses out of it.


That's very reasonable. About the cost of two B-2 Spirit planes.



And yeah same thought as you, you would have a good little bus run from Mars/Moon and Earth for any colonies that are set up.
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I see no reason why we can't do this if that is the true cost it's practically peanuts. The James Webb Space Telescope cost $8 billion. That's enough for two of these with money left over.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:19 PM
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Indigent
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ok www.space.com...

radiation to a mars trip is just as bad as working in fukushima cleaning

fukushima.ans.org...

i misunderstood the research


Yes. Because you misunderstand shielding and the differences in different types of ionizing radiation.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:22 PM
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shielding for radiation? as in 3 meter of water surrounding the ship? ok boss go to mars and let me know how it goes



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:23 PM
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Indigent
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shielding for radiation? as in 3 meter of water surrounding the ship? ok boss go to mars and let me know how it goes


Do you know anything about exposure time vs dosage? Or the difference between alpha, beta particles and x-rays and gamma rays?

I guess not.

Pity. It would have been an interesting intelligent conversation.

In summation radiation exposure and the amount of shielding needed on a trip to Mars varies by how long the trip is, which depends on your propulsion system. It also depends on when the trip would be as the solar flux varies in its X-ray levels depending on where in the Suns solar cycle it is.

Radiation in space has been known about for ages and people like Robert Zubrin have done a lot of research on it. This is nothing new nor unplanned for.

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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:25 PM
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share the knowledge in shielding if you feel you know so much



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:30 PM
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Indigent
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share the knowledge in shielding if you feel you know so much


I'll let your fingers provide you with that education. It's not hard to google terms like "Mars trip radiation protection" etc.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:32 PM
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so you know nothing, ok

this is what your search terms provided

www.usatoday.com...

edition.cnn.com...

www.theguardian.com...

ouch
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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JadeStar



Do you know anything about exposure time vs dosage? Or the difference between alpha, beta particles and x-rays and gamma rays?

I guess not.

Pity. It would have been an interesting intelligent conversation.

In summation radiation exposure and the amount of shielding needed on a trip to Mars varies by how long the trip is, which depends on your propulsion system. It also depends on when the trip would be as the solar flux varies in its X-ray levels depending on where in the Suns solar cycle it is.

Radiation in space has been known about for ages and people like Robert Zubrin have done a lot of research on it. This is nothing new nor unplanned for.

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^^what he said.

Its a shame people dont pay attension in there science classes.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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Well, it looks like the rumored Bigelow Aerospace based spaceship idea had legs after all.

Is this the same guy who owns Skinwalker ranch, and has an alien grey picture on his website?



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:37 PM
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Plus its going off topic abit now.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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zilebeliveunknown
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Well, it looks like the rumored Bigelow Aerospace based spaceship idea had legs after all.

Is this the same guy who owns Skinwalker ranch, and has an alien grey picture on his website?


Actually the ideas been developed with NASA useing bigalow parts.

Though that may be worse........


Probably end up 99% complete with $3.6 billion spent on itbefore its cancelled.....
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