reply to post by iRoyalty
It seems That even doing your research for you and then attempting to present a balanced view even that fails.
Yet again, selective ignoring of facts is undertaken, let's try it this way...
WTF do you think caused the publication of a 25 item list, recently (December) updated and published by the NHS as The Never Events List Update
The Francis Report into 1 hospital, an Independent Inquiry led by a QC refers to "...up to 1,200 people lost their lives needlessly,...safety of sick
and dying patients ROUTINELY neglected...patients left unwashed In their own filth for up to a month as nurses ignored their requests...
No attempt to address this report by you or your "colleagues" then?
Then there are the figures from The Mail you report. Your dismissal of POTENTIALLY 12,000 deaths as "nothing...actually it's only 5% worth of
fatalities" beggars belief! What an insult to the dead and their families to be dismissed by a member of such a "caring" profession.
Shame on you for this, and you bring shame upon your profession by espousing such a view. If I were your line manager I can assure you with a view
like that I would be actively seeking your resignation as you obviously are so bigoted as to be a potential liability. Stuff political correctness and
your union if you belong to one, I would not want a person like you 'caring' for any patient! (Of course though, you are a 111 person, so that's OK
WRT overworked and lack of funding within the NHS. Whilst I have never disagreed with such an obvious FACT, I maintain it is the way that those
resources and funds that exist are utilised is part of the problem. Proactive management to ensure that staff do not create an IMPRESSION of gossiping
or just hanging out in the canteen for extended periods would be a good start.
Users of the NHS, I.e. the patient, relatives and visitors in general are not stupid and are well aware that staff are simply human like the rest of
us, as such, socialising, particularly on the wards, APPEARS routine. When you are already suffering from a lack of care, compassion and
communication, this adds to the issues and is easily prevented
Oh, BTW boymonkey caller, WRT 111, or whatever this 'service' is called this week, why is the NHS having to re tender up to a 1/3 of contracts, with
just one cock up at Shropshire costing £1/2m alone? I will answer it for you in order to avoid any mistake or selective ignoring, this is fact
remember..."The line suffered many teething problems, with patients complaining of calls going unanswered, poor advice given and calls being diverted
to the wrong part of the country."
So let's just go along with your undoubted prowess at maths, I will save you the effort of undertaking the complex calculations yourself - only 1/3 of
this particular NHS issue can be attributed to a lack of resources, and that would be a maximum figure, that for unanswered calls. As for the 111
Service itself, I think that complaints about this, media reporting and other emerging issues will have to await in line for a space in the queue of
NHS related reviews and reports and inquiries...
Oh yes, The Daily Mail/Mail On Sunday, almost forgot. You obviously have not noticed, or chosen to ignore the fact that I do not rely upon singleton
sources of information and facts, and that where possible I, like many others on ATS try and present a balanced view with the use of more than one
source...where possible, and that search is not restricted to newspapers but frequently utilises professional, expert, industry related data,
supported sometimes by Trade Union origin data.
I fail to understand the over defensive and selective approach you and one or two other debunkers maintain. For me it really matters not too much what
you may say about me or accuse me of, but your continual ignoring of others on this thread who have quoted their own or their relatives mistreatment
with their own experiences and facts detracts from your attempts to present a positive image.
The NHS, as I have stated repeatedly has bottomed out and as can be clearly seen is actively seeking to address continuing issues. The reason so many
reviews, reports and recommendations have ensued are obvious to most open minded people and include most definitely a lack of resources be they pounds
or people. Not withstanding, it is still a mess and still a National disgrace and not just in my eyes as can be seen from this thread.
How about before you predictably come back to have yet another pop at me, you read and discuss the views of the people within this thread or elsewhere
for that matter, that have experienced obvious bad treatment etc. under NHS 'care'?
Then come back and continue arguing black is white and we can carry on ad infinitude. But please, do not dismiss the deaths of 5% as NOTHING, your
words, not mine. That is an insult to those so tragically involved and affected by those deaths. You could of course show true spirit, accept your
mistake, apologise to those affected and redress some of the balance.
There We Are Then.
edit on 9-1-2014 by Shuftystick because: Addition re 111 in brackets