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McCain, in Israel, voices skepticism about Kerry’s Middle East peace push

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posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 09:30 PM
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McCain, in Israel, voices skepticism about Kerry’s Middle East peace push



Leading Republican senators said Friday that they share Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s reservations about terms for an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement proposed by Secretary of State John F. Kerry.

Netanyahu “has serious, serious concerns about the plan as it has been presented to him,” particularly about the future security of Israel and the viability of a future independent Palestinian state, Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) said after meetings with Netanyahu and other officials in Israel.

McCain and fellow Senate Republicans Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) and John Barrasso (Wyo.) said they share the general alarm about Israel’s security should the country withdraw from the West Bank. Without providing details of the largely secret proposals, McCain and Graham suggested that they and other supporters of Israel in Congress will greet Kerry’s program skeptically.


Did these Senators forget what country they work for? Why are American Senators in a foreign land dealing with matters that is none of their business. And these idiots need to get it through their heads that defending Israel isn't Americas job.




posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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and the viability of a future independent Palestinian state


That's the last thing (government)Israel wants. Straight from the horses mouth. Israel's PM doesn't even believe it to be possible, much less wanting to work towards that solution.

~Tenth
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posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 09:44 PM
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OMG! I cannot believe I ever respected that guy.


I am now officially a broken record: what business do the people of Arizona have with the Country of Israel? Sen McCain may be on this or that committee but it means nothing. He represents Arizona. Period.

What does Israel have over this Congress? There is not enough broken stuff from sea to shining sea to focus on? They need to head to a patch of sand on the other side of the planet to look for stuff to stick their noses in? The perks and the money must be great.

The Knesset (with the Likud existing) will never agree to a Palestinian State. Why do they keep pretending by calling it the search for peace?



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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Apparently the Logan Act means no more to John McCain than immigration laws or anything else. There is absolutely no need to follow laws for him these days. He need not even change them. He can merely play like they don't even exist at this stage and no one who matters will bother to notice.

If nothing else, they've all screwed up so badly in ethics, if not law by now? They have enough on each other to make each above the law. Amazing to watch happen, isn't it? Not good...but amazing.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 10:05 PM
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This is an American peace plan, maybe you forgot that. It's hard for you to be rational whenever Israel is involved I know.

Maybe you should be saying Kerry and Obama should leave the situation alone?
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posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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buster2010
McCain, in Israel, voices skepticism about Kerry’s Middle East peace push



Leading Republican senators said Friday that they share Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s reservations about terms for an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement proposed by Secretary of State John F. Kerry.

Netanyahu “has serious, serious concerns about the plan as it has been presented to him,” particularly about the future security of Israel and the viability of a future independent Palestinian state, Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) said after meetings with Netanyahu and other officials in Israel.

McCain and fellow Senate Republicans Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) and John Barrasso (Wyo.) said they share the general alarm about Israel’s security should the country withdraw from the West Bank. Without providing details of the largely secret proposals, McCain and Graham suggested that they and other supporters of Israel in Congress will greet Kerry’s program skeptically.


Did these Senators forget what country they work for? Why are American Senators in a foreign land dealing with matters that is none of their business. And these idiots need to get it through their heads that defending Israel isn't Americas job.


Kerry and Obama are trying to push there middle east peace plan through congress. Are you that cluesless on how government works? See senators vote on appropriations for there plan since basically they want to give the palestinians lots of money. So being a senator and Israel being an ally you wouldnt want to give the palestinians lots of money if its going to hurt your ally. I personally think the state department needs to stop tyring to solve this period let some other country be the bad guy when it all falls apart. But as usual will stick or necks out put lots of money on the line only to be attacked later by some terrorist group becuase there mad were involved in the first place.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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Many of you criticized the Obama's for vacationing in Hawaii, so what is the cost to us tax payers for this trip? How many times has McCain went to the middle east in the last few months?



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 10:58 PM
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McCain should retire. He should go home to that trophy wife of his, turn off Fox News and pop in 3 Viagra pills.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 11:16 PM
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LDragonFire
Many of you criticized the Obama's for vacationing in Hawaii, so what is the cost to us tax payers for this trip? How many times has McCain went to the middle east in the last few months?


He went on the trip with secretary of state Kerry so noy much since a military flight had to go there anyway. Oh im sorry your meaning to bash mccain but no mention of Kerrys trip. So your comments are purly political and have nothing to do with concern of cost do they? Some people just cant get over there petty hatreds to take the time to look at whats really going on. See Kerry went there to meet with President Mahmoud Abbas head of the Palestinian Authority.In fact turned in to a mess because protesters gathered on the street telling him to go home.See Obama and Kerry are making a classic mistake the palistinians are screaming that they are biased towards Israel and Isrrael is screaming that the US is undermining them in the middle east. So what have those two accomplished so far well the palestinians hate us and Israel now is openly stating that they dont like us either. Wow all we managed to do is piss off both sides well i guess on the plus side at least the Israelis wont try to blow us up so only one side to worry about.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 11:18 PM
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That guy is real piece of work! Complain about the POTUS all you want, but if McCain had won we would be in the middle of WW3.

I think his time in Hanoi made him insane. Poor guy.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 11:24 PM
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dragonridr
Wow all we managed to do is piss off both sides


That's what happens when you try to step in the middle of a family feud that's been going on about 4000 years.

Nobody is going to be able to get them to agree. At least not this generation.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 11:34 PM
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You mean this feud?



Another member shared this awhile back and I passed it on at school to some real appreciation of how sadly true it is.

You mean...you don't suppose Secretary Kerry can fix all that in a single term?



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:01 AM
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God bless Israel...God bless John McCain...God bless the rubber necked hypocrites of the USA...God forbid we solve our own problems.
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:12 AM
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Wrabbit. Yes we don't all agree. Yes Senators are elected by their districts. And tend to forget that. But these senate appointees along they way are appointed to handle bigger task.
Energy committee
Foreign affairs
House committees...
Housing.....homeland security..you get the point.
They are task...heck one guy from Mass was in charge of alcohol consumption...I can joke I'm Irish and related...

OK scratch that. Can I ask? How were they elected to that position. I didn't get that vote. I didn't elect Feinstein or Palose.

But some how they got charged with this duty. So. They are doing it. I don't agree but they do

Edit: I forgot Oversight committee
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:23 AM
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I say we stop sending aid to both sides.With no funds I'm pretty sure both sides would be ready to talk peace.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:29 AM
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Actually, foreign policy is the exclusive duty and area of responsibility for the President or whomever he appoints. Congress gets to vote up or down on the product of that (treaties or agreements) but they don't get to perform it. That is Constitutional in it's separation and the Logan Act was meant to reaffirm it. It covers Senators and Congressmen as well, unless otherwise appointed by the President to act in his place.

That can be done quietly of course and no big thing is required for McCain to be acting on behalf of Obama. That COULD be what is happening, although I doubt it, for a number of reasons. I think it's more likely John lost a Presidency, can't accept it and will meddle in things that are outside his Constitutional authority until the day he's removed from office or leaves it.

I hope he doesn't start any more wars by it. He's sure tried recently in Syria and the Ukraine it seems. Turkey too, to hear some talk.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:43 AM
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Wrabbit2000
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Actually, foreign policy is the exclusive duty and area of responsibility for the President or whomever he appoints. Congress gets to vote up or down on the product of that (treaties or agreements) but they don't get to perform it. That is Constitutional in it's separation and the Logan Act was meant to reaffirm it. It covers Senators and Congressmen as well, unless otherwise appointed by the President to act in his place.

That can be done quietly of course and no big thing is required for McCain to be acting on behalf of Obama. That COULD be what is happening, although I doubt it, for a number of reasons. I think it's more likely John lost a Presidency, can't accept it and will meddle in things that are outside his Constitutional authority until the day he's removed from office or leaves it.

I hope he doesn't start any more wars by it. He's sure tried recently in Syria and the Ukraine it seems. Turkey too, to hear some talk.


Feverously trying to get the star button to work. Thank you. That was not my guess considering why a dem would appoint a repub. But I suppose they do golf in the end of the day. Note... McCain has a handicap...and yes I'm deaf and repub...but so I will joke since it is my nature...that explains the push for a new marine one..when we were broke...

Rabbit. Thanks for being bipartisan!
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And by that I mean objective thinking.

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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:57 AM
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Wrabbit2000
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Actually, foreign policy is the exclusive duty and area of responsibility for the President or whomever he appoints. Congress gets to vote up or down on the product of that (treaties or agreements) but they don't get to perform it. That is Constitutional in it's separation and the Logan Act was meant to reaffirm it. It covers Senators and Congressmen as well, unless otherwise appointed by the President to act in his place.

That can be done quietly of course and no big thing is required for McCain to be acting on behalf of Obama. That COULD be what is happening, although I doubt it, for a number of reasons. I think it's more likely John lost a Presidency, can't accept it and will meddle in things that are outside his Constitutional authority until the day he's removed from office or leaves it.

I hope he doesn't start any more wars by it. He's sure tried recently in Syria and the Ukraine it seems. Turkey too, to hear some talk.


Actually hes probably there by presidential request simple get the republicans to help and it makes it more likely he can get them to approve and fund it.Trust me John Mccain wouldnt be on a state department trip without the presidents approval.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 01:05 AM
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OK I feel the burn.. can they get away with that. You know with prying eyes?

With the Stevie nicks and.... nsa..

I'm not Charlie Wilson..yet it is a blood line name.. shoot!



Wait. I got it.. cheeky yes but....why get a guy...go blame a guy... then have tea? Having lost to the guy....hell nursing is not where I should have gone....!! Commence oh good people!

At ATS WHERE PEOPLE THINK!


KCCO!
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Tell me lies. Tell me sweet little lies....

Curse that earlier post on lights and good music...

I'm hopped up on very hot chocolate and my night sky with a telescope.....I am going to enjoy the view...keep those comments flowing. I may not be signed in....but it does not mean I'm lurking..



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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 07:19 AM
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Maybe you should be saying Kerry and Obama should leave the situation alone?


Wow it seems like you are finally starting to understand. America shouldn't be involved with the peace process. Let the UN do it or let them do it alone. It is none of Americas business.



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