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Steven Seagal considers running as governor of Arizona

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posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 11:54 PM
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

And he got sued in 2010 for late payment. He got sued in 2012 for late payment. To who Nasso the Mob guy.
Why is he still paying $50,000 a year to his old Mob Boss movie Producer?
Nasso went to prison for 1 year. And is getting paid $50,000 a year by the guy he committed a crime against?
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:03 AM
And how about this for Mob tactics.

More than 600 Oregonians opened thick envelopes in March to find they'd been accused of illegally downloading a Steven Seagal movie and that their only option out was to pay a $7,500 settlement.
But a federal judge drop-kicked the suit this week in a move metro-area lawyers say could help prevent more of the suits from being filed in Oregon.

Judge Ann Aiken of U.S. District Court of Oregon dismissed the file-sharing case against 615 defendants, ruling they were improperly lumped together in copyright infringement lawsuits filed by Salem lawyer Carl Crowell on behalf of Voltage Pictures in Los Angeles.

The judge determined that the defendants differed in too many ways -- from the dates the BitTorrent downloads allegedly occurred to where they lived -- to be joined.

Kind of almost sounds like that Mob trial.

For four hours, the defense circled and jabbed at Seagal. Many of Seagal's claims from the past came back to haunt him. He was asked at one point if he had once hired "someone to set up a man in a compromising homosexual situation."

Seagal exploded. "I'm not on trial here! ... This is crazy."

Seems he uses Mob Tactics all the time. i wonder where he learned them?

"He has the appearance of a history of attacking people or threatening people who he perceives as a threat," said Richard Levitt, lawyer for Primo Cassarino, a reputed wiseguy on trial for extortion with alleged capo Anthony "Sonny" Ciccone.

Block said he would allow cross-examination on a suit Seagal has filed against the "German mafia," thwarting prosecutors' attempts to stop defense lawyers from suggesting that Seagal likes to feign victimization.

But Levitt and Ciccone's lawyer, George Santangelo, will not likely be permitted to grill Seagal on his ties to a private eye in L.A. who has allegedly threatened journalists reporting on the New York case.

He even hired a PI to attack reporters who reported on his connections to the Mob case? That is Mob tactics.
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:23 AM
And the hiring of a PI to threaten a reporter.

Actor Steven Seagal has been linked to threats directed at a Los Angeles Times reporter investigating the action star's relationship to a Mafia figure, according to federal court records.

The explosive allegation is contained in an October 17 FBI affidavit filed in support of a government bid to search the Los Angeles home of Alexander Proctor, a 59-year-old ex-con who has been charged with threatening Times writer Anita Busch.

The 21-page FBI affidavit--a key excerpt of which you'll find here--alleges that Proctor told a bureau informant (in tape-recorded conversations) that Seagal hired him through Anthony Pellicano, a noted L.A. private eye.

According to the informant's account, Proctor claimed that Pellicano farmed the strong-arm work out to him for $10,000. Prosecutors allege that Proctor, who is being held without bail, left a dead fish, a rose, and a note saying "Stop" on the windshield of Busch's car.

Yesterday (11/21) FBI agents raided Pellicano's Sunset Boulevard office and arrested the P.I. on an explosives charge. Click here to read the FBI affidavit filed in support of the Pellicano criminal charge.

The document describes how agents discovered fresh military-grade C-4 plastic explosives, anti-personnel grenades, and stacks of cash in an office safe (along with the C-4, investigators found a detonation cord and blasting cap). The amount of C-4 found, agents noted, could easily blow up a car and "was, in fact, strong enough to bring down an airplane." (8 pages)

On February 4, 2006, Pellicano was arrested for wiretapping and racketeering. On May 15, 2008, he and four others were found guilty of racketeering.[1] In August, 2008, Pellicano was convicted of wiretapping and conspiracy to commit wiretapping in the District Federal Court in Los Angeles.[2] In December, 2008, the court denied Pellicano's request for concurrent sentencing. Fifteen years were added to Pellicano's prison sentence and he was fined $2 million.[3] On August 7, 2011, Pellicano gave a first interview to Newsweek.[4] Then, on July 5, 2012, Pellicano's bail hearing was postponed due to poor health.[5] However, the next day, Tom Cruise was accused of conspiring with Pellicano to create a wiretap during Cruise's divorce from Nicole Kidman.[6]

That PI liked working for Movie Stars.

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:27 AM


teven Seagal is being threatened with a lawsuit over his part in a police raid that was taped for his A&E reality show, TMZ reported.
The actor, who has served as a reserve deputy sheriff since the mid-'80s, was part of a team that arrived at Jesus Sanchez Llovera's Arizona house in March with a tank and armed in full riot gear, Llovera alleges in his legal documents.
VIDEO: Steven Seagal Arrives for Police Bust in Tank
Llovera claims that the raid, carried out by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department, was "unfounded" because they believed Llovera was raising roosters for illegal cockfighting. But he says the roosters are only "for show."
Llovera -- who served both Seagal and Sheriff Joe Arpaio with an official notice of claim, the first step toward a lawsuit -- says his 11-month-old puppy was shot and killed during the raid and that police also killed more than 100 of his roosters.

100 roosters just for show........Ya right. If anyone is buying this story you are so gullible it is amazing. I bet his poor puppy was a pit bull. What do you think the odds are?

It is starting to make me wonder how people can buy such a pile of crap.

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 01:00 AM
Steven Seagal can kick Chuck Norris's ass.

2nd line.

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 01:09 AM
reply to post by jrod

Hey, that's actually a movie I'd pay to see! Seagal Vs. Norris ... If a little handicapping were done to balance out age of course, with poor Chuck getting no favors from Father Time lately...

That might be interesting for an outcome!

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 01:44 AM
Oh Steven Seagal would wipe the floor with Chuck Norris. No contest. Not offense to Chuck, he's a real martial artist too. Steven is a bona fide badass. He was an instructor in Japan in a combative form of Aikido before acting, and continued his training thereafter.

Here is a vid. Realize the opponents are trying to win

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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:55 AM

Jesse Ventura, former governor of minn., strikes me as someone with a bit more credibility than Seagal, particularly with his attempts at seeking the truth behind conspiracies and such matters.

lol, jesse "conspiracy" ventura?

he's a nut job.

i say go for it steven!

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:15 AM

lol, i still like him.

crap, i can't imbed,

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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:27 AM
reply to post by tsingtao

I was able to embed your link. Are you sure you just used the last bit?

The 'qUaesUh-M3Q' part for the Youtube Video Number?

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:29 AM
reply to post by tsingtao

Hmm so Steve's got that side too! I like the setting.

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 10:00 AM
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

I'm sorry but to be perfectly honest, the opponents Segal is facing are not trying to win.
They are helping the demonstration by falling down for their opponent.
This is a common theme in Aikido demonstrations.
You can clearly see some of them are taking a dive at the mat.
At least that's what I see in that clip.


posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 10:52 AM
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

You're probably right about who would win. Chuck learned an art that was as much match fighting and demonstration as anything life or death. Seagal mastered the art where little old ladies drop 300lb bruisers and leave them wondering what truck ran them over... lol

If only I could go back and do a few things differently? Learning that would be among them...

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 11:54 AM
How about hearing from some MMA guys about Seagal.

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 01:00 PM
I don't know...I mean Chuck was really badass in his Karate competition days. Seagal was too though...Bruce Lee was a badass...Jet li, Chackie Chan...not so sure if they could do anything in real life. Keep in mind too that the UFC guys like boxing is a sport...not knocking any of those guys but ...Real martial artists and self defense guys...fight dirty, fight to win. Interesting subject though.

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 01:01 PM
Cant be any worse than McCain right?

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 03:13 PM
reply to post by JBA2848

I'm not saying Segal doesn't have a lot of knowledge in grappling or throws but that Aikido demonstration looked less realistic (to me) than one of his choreographed movie fights.
Aikido demonstrations depend on the one being thrown just as much as they do the one doing the throwing to look the way they do and aren't meant to be a reflection of how someone would fare in a real fight for their life. Those sort of things don't show how practical the art is in real combat or what it's true strengths and weaknesses are in a street fight...which is, let's face it, where it's most likely to be used.
IMO in a match between an experienced grappler and an experienced striker, I'll put my money on the grappler almost everytime unless there's a ludicrous size difference.
I will say Segal has the various locks down pretty tight but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy I'd want to learn from.
I figured if I ever wanted to learn a practical form of would be Krav Maga and if I ever wanted to learn a Martial Art for would be Tai Chi and not Aikido.


posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 05:54 PM
reply to post by Eryiedes

They are helping the demonstration by falling down for their opponent.
This is a common theme in Aikido demonstrations.
You can clearly see some of them are taking a dive at the mat.

It's Randori. Free sparing. The demonstration wasn't scripted.

They have trained how to fall and roll not they they were trying to.

Those sort of things don't show how practical the art is in real combat

If he had done those techniques on someone, say on the street, who didn't know how to fall and roll properly then bone breaks and neck snaps would ensue.

That said, if you look at the style of Aikido Steven advocated later on you'll see it's much more 'combat ready' and less artful and showy than many Aikido styles.

I trained in Aikido for a couple years at an Kendo studio. My primary art is eskrima [weapons-based] however.
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 05:58 PM
reply to post by pandersway

We've spent decades electing nothing but lawyers.

And look at the state of America.

Bring it on!!!

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 06:19 PM
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

Sorry sir.
That part in the demonstration where Segal just butt bumps some guy and he is sent "flying" and rolls like he was hit with the momentum of Andre the Giant.
That alone ruins my suspension of disbelief and I cry foul on it's true authenticity.
You see it as proof that he's genuine.
I see it as proof that he's just struting through a show he's supposed to win.


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