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Success for the Chemtrail program?

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posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:56 AM
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The people involved likely army people will be under the NDA bit like Area51 employees they can't even tell their family. And they are monitored anyway so its easy to get rid of anyone who talks.




posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:59 AM
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The Army has planes? Where?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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Sk8ergrl
Maybe you should read this pdf its 97 pages long but it shows you what they are doing

National Programme Weather Modification


Network dude asked you a question about this document. Are you just going to ignore that and move on like it never happened? you presented this as some sort of evidence so you should at least be prepared to answer questions about it. Like what does it show them doing other than inducing precipitation?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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network dude
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The Army has planes? Where?
I meant military aircraft and if you look at how much money is into the black projects budgets then you might get the idea that this is global not just USA.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:09 AM
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mrthumpy

Sk8ergrl
Maybe you should read this pdf its 97 pages long but it shows you what they are doing

National Programme Weather Modification


Network dude asked you a question about this document. Are you just going to ignore that and move on like it never happened? you presented this as some sort of evidence so you should at least be prepared to answer questions about it. Like what does it show them doing other than inducing precipitation?


It shows that they are spraying our skies



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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Sk8ergrl

mrthumpy

Sk8ergrl
Maybe you should read this pdf its 97 pages long but it shows you what they are doing

National Programme Weather Modification


Network dude asked you a question about this document. Are you just going to ignore that and move on like it never happened? you presented this as some sort of evidence so you should at least be prepared to answer questions about it. Like what does it show them doing other than inducing precipitation?


It shows that they are spraying our skies


Yes, we've already discussed cloud seeding remember. You seemed to think it was for something other than rain though. You did read the document that you suggested we read didn't you?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:20 AM
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How many people are in the military worldwide?

How many can be used for operation that have been already proven?

Why does there have to be something noticeable poking out, that’s just giving it away yeah?

Whares the credit man!

Just same old trash talk. You too need to be educated about past operations all over again.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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Airplanes have to land somewhere. In the US Air Force the flightlines have people who recover, repair, and re-launch these planes. In order to do this, some need to board the planes. Unless they are something top secret. Which does arouse suspicion even inside OPSEC communities. Trust me when I say that SOMEONE would mention the spray tanks if they existed. Remember, this has apparently been going on WORLDWIDE since the early 1990's. And to date, not ONE person can show anything relating to these mysterious "spray planes". Hell, the Manhattan Project was compromised during it's inception. This would be an amazing secret if true.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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network dude
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Actually, the amount of any chemical that would be needed to produce the contrail affect has been discussed here and it was very clear that a single plane could not make a chemical trail very long at all based on the capacity and the density needed to be visible.
In the US military a C-5 Gallaxy is the largest cargo plain in inventory. Should we be looking into them for spraying apparatus?

Remember, in order for this to be a military operation, you would need planes, crew, ground crew, maintenance people, logistic specialist, Loadmasters, and many other people to be "in the know" for this to happen. I can say as a former member of the USAF as a flight line technician, I have never seen any evidence of this happening. If it was on such a grand scale, wouldn't there be some accountability?




This is truly pathetic. You are trying to believe with all you heart, mind and will that a plane of jumbo proportion cannot disperse substance for 10 mins or more and even control the out let release to do as instructed?

Are you really trying to say that if that giant big bloody plane was filled with cans of bright red aerosol paints all connected (with control values, dur) so that the paint could be sprayed out of the plane, the paint couldn’t leave an enormous trail? Like what you claim is just contrails?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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sunnynights

network dude
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Actually, the amount of any chemical that would be needed to produce the contrail affect has been discussed here and it was very clear that a single plane could not make a chemical trail very long at all based on the capacity and the density needed to be visible.
In the US military a C-5 Gallaxy is the largest cargo plain in inventory. Should we be looking into them for spraying apparatus?

Remember, in order for this to be a military operation, you would need planes, crew, ground crew, maintenance people, logistic specialist, Loadmasters, and many other people to be "in the know" for this to happen. I can say as a former member of the USAF as a flight line technician, I have never seen any evidence of this happening. If it was on such a grand scale, wouldn't there be some accountability?




This is truly pathetic. You are trying to believe with all you heart, mind and will that a plane of jumbo proportion cannot disperse substance for 10 mins or more and even control the out let release to do as instructed?

Are you really trying to say that if that giant big bloody plane was filled with cans of bright red aerosol paints all connected (with control values, dur) so that the paint could be sprayed out of the plane, the paint couldn’t leave an enormous trail? Like what you claim is just contrails?


Are you rally that ignorant of how much area the sky consists of?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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sunnynights

network dude
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Actually, the amount of any chemical that would be needed to produce the contrail affect has been discussed here and it was very clear that a single plane could not make a chemical trail very long at all based on the capacity and the density needed to be visible.
In the US military a C-5 Gallaxy is the largest cargo plain in inventory. Should we be looking into them for spraying apparatus?

Remember, in order for this to be a military operation, you would need planes, crew, ground crew, maintenance people, logistic specialist, Loadmasters, and many other people to be "in the know" for this to happen. I can say as a former member of the USAF as a flight line technician, I have never seen any evidence of this happening. If it was on such a grand scale, wouldn't there be some accountability?




This is truly pathetic. You are trying to believe with all you heart, mind and will that a plane of jumbo proportion cannot disperse substance for 10 mins or more and even control the out let release to do as instructed?

Are you really trying to say that if that giant big bloody plane was filled with cans of bright red aerosol paints all connected (with control values, dur) so that the paint could be sprayed out of the plane, the paint couldn’t leave an enormous trail? Like what you claim is just contrails?


Wow, I am sorry to be so pathetic, but here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please feel free to do the math and check these findings. I didn't write it, but I did read it.

And please think about what the skies look like at times. Filled with contrails. Then at other times you only see one or two.
Why would that be? Is it possible that contrails can persist and linger? Some say yes.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 10:53 AM
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sunnynights

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Actually, the amount of any chemical that would be needed to produce the contrail affect has been discussed here and it was very clear that a single plane could not make a chemical trail very long at all based on the capacity and the density needed to be visible.
In the US military a C-5 Gallaxy is the largest cargo plain in inventory. Should we be looking into them for spraying apparatus?

Remember, in order for this to be a military operation, you would need planes, crew, ground crew, maintenance people, logistic specialist, Loadmasters, and many other people to be "in the know" for this to happen. I can say as a former member of the USAF as a flight line technician, I have never seen any evidence of this happening. If it was on such a grand scale, wouldn't there be some accountability?



This is truly pathetic. You are trying to believe with all you heart, mind and will that a plane of jumbo proportion cannot disperse substance for 10 mins or more and even control the out let release to do as instructed?

Are you really trying to say that if that giant big bloody plane was filled with cans of bright red aerosol paints all connected (with control values, dur) so that the paint could be sprayed out of the plane, the paint couldn’t leave an enormous trail? Like what you claim is just contrails?

I'd say any trail as you described would not do what persistent contrails do -- which is be laid for sometimes hundreds of miles, and spread out and grow.

The growth of a persistent contrail (and much of the contrail itself, for that matter) requires water vapor and moisture that is already present in the air.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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I have a number of sources that are under an NDA, and they still talk. They wouldn't be able to stop them from talking the first time, which would get word out there. But no one has.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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All previous operations to defoliate, or drop fire retardant have required a noticeable modification to the aircraft, and spraying nozzles somewhere on it. So if they're not going to run chemicals through the fuel system, they have to have some way to spray them, which means a physical modification. That means something that can be seen, and talked about.

As for how many people are in the military, more people means more chance of a Bradley Manning, and someone talking. Even under an NDA, or with a classified program.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 03:09 PM
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Why does there have to be something noticeable poking out, that’s just giving it away yeah?


Well, unless they install it when the planes built something as extensive as what your thinking would be noticed.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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Are you really trying to say that if that giant big bloody plane was filled with cans of bright red aerosol paints all connected (with control values, dur) so that the paint could be sprayed out of the plane, the paint couldn’t leave an enormous trail? Like what you claim is just contrails?


Now think about what you just said.

So now if you sprayed those aerosols and they don't look like contrails then why are contrails called chemtrails as they shouldn't look like contrails, or at least that is the logic if we go by what you said.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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Do you have any idea how daft you sound?

The logistics involved in a worldwide spraying operation are beyond your comprehension.

You do know that there are lots of countries on this planet, not just America. Most of these countries can't agree on anything, and your "military" is spraying everyone? A moronic concept to put it mildly.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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Sk8ergrl
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The people involved likely army people will be under the NDA bit like Area51 employees they can't even tell their family. And they are monitored anyway so its easy to get rid of anyone who talks.



Right, so why do the vast majority of chemtrail believers point at, take and post pictures of commercial aircraft, citing that as evidence of spraying?

Do you have any clue about how many people, military and civilian, would be involved in an operation of this magnitude? Nothing supposedly being carried out on a scale suggested by the chemtrail theories could be kept secret for vary long, and it denotes an ignorance of history, especially military history, to suggest otherwise.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 05:52 PM
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What military are you talking about? American? Do you really think that the US military are capable of spraying the world?? Or are you trying to suggest that all the different armed forces from various nations are involved? HAHAHAHAHAHA

You should try doing some travel, visit a few places outside your own country, this is a big planet we live on.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 05:54 PM
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Really?

Are you a goldfish named Simon? You seem to be lacking in the brain department, no offense.




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