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Success for the Chemtrail program?

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posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 07:58 AM
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Well they have even come out and said " Yes we are cloud seeding to lower temps with nano particles of silver nitrate. This will bring down the temps by making the sky murky with white screen so the sun can't heat up the earth too much and melt the ice caps.


Who said that and where do they say it?




posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:14 AM
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DJW001
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Well they have even come out and said " Yes we are cloud seeding to lower temps with nano particles of silver nitrate. This will bring down the temps by making the sky murky with white screen so the sun can't heat up the earth too much and melt the ice caps.


Who said that and where do they say it?


Source shows proof that yes they have been spraying and still are

Source If they are finally telling us that they want to start spraying well they have been in secret spraying.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:25 AM
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Sk8ergrl
Well they have even come out and said " Yes we are cloud seeding to lower temps with nano particles of silver nitrate.


No. They have come out and said they seed clouds with silver iodide to try and make it rain. It's never been a secret. Have you seriously only just heard about cloud seeding?
edit on 17-2-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:37 AM
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Here is a quick introduction to Cloud Seeding 101.

www.weathermodification.com...

Above is a company that has been around for a while that seeds clouds.

Wiki link.

For over 50 years, science has tried to induce rain. Longer than that, Native Americans and other groups would do a "rain dance". While cloud seeding seems to be a bit more solid than that traditional dance, it's only marginally so. The science is still out on the ability to make it rain as the cloud that is to be seeded needs to already be capable of producing rain. So if it was to rain, there is no sure way of knowing if it would have rained had the cloud not been seeded.


Those white lines in the sky are at around 25 to 35 thousand feet. Cloud seeding happens at a few thousand feet. Cloud seeding cannot be seen from the ground as it happens inside the cloud. The silver iodide is released into the cloud.

Contrails have nothing to do with cloud seeding and chemtrails are mis-identified contrails.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:40 AM
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mrthumpy

Sk8ergrl
Well they have even come out and said " Yes we are cloud seeding to lower temps with nano particles of silver nitrate.


No. They have come out and said they seed clouds with silver nitrate to try and make it rain. It's never been a secret. Have you seriously only just heard about cloud seeding?
Of course I have I'm not thick. But there are side effects that actually cause the problems and they use the cloud seeding to make it rain as their mission when all along they really wanted the side effects.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:42 AM
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Maybe you should read this pdf its 97 pages long but it shows you what they are doing

National Programme Weather Modification



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:43 AM
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Sk8ergrl

mrthumpy

Sk8ergrl
Well they have even come out and said " Yes we are cloud seeding to lower temps with nano particles of silver nitrate.


No. They have come out and said they seed clouds with silver nitrate to try and make it rain. It's never been a secret. Have you seriously only just heard about cloud seeding?
Of course I have I'm not thick. But there are side effects that actually cause the problems and they use the cloud seeding to make it rain as their mission when all along they really wanted the side effects.


What side effects and how are these achieved by seeding clouds with solver iodide?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:43 AM
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Sk8ergrl

DJW001
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Well they have even come out and said " Yes we are cloud seeding to lower temps with nano particles of silver nitrate. This will bring down the temps by making the sky murky with white screen so the sun can't heat up the earth too much and melt the ice caps.


Who said that and where do they say it?


Source shows proof that yes they have been spraying and still are

Source If they are finally telling us that they want to start spraying well they have been in secret spraying.


Neither source says what you said 'they' said.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:46 AM
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Sk8ergrl
Maybe you should read this pdf its 97 pages long but it shows you what they are doing

National Programme Weather Modification


Perhaps you can point out what in that document is troubling you.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:46 AM
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Once again, the fact that so many people confuse contrails with geo-engineering is a strong reason to drop the 'geo-engineering' from the title of the 'chemtrail' forum. The motto of ATS is 'DENY Ignorance,' not encourage it.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:52 AM
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Well if you want to stay in denial then that's up to you. I know for a fact that their is an agenda and its run by evil people who don't care about the people. There is so much documents explaining chemtrails and spraying the skies to form a hazy film to stop the sun from warming the planet but you don't realise is that it has messed with natures balance. Once again humans mess with things they don't understand.


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posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:57 AM
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SRM is a proposed idea. If you have any evidence that it IS happening, then please find the nearest lawyer and prepare to get rich. The UN has had a ban on any of this going on for a while now. The US is part of the UN.

Again, if you can prove it, then you have the moral obligation to do something about it. It all you have a you tube videos and patents on ideas, then you have nothing, which is what most chemtrail pushers have.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 08:59 AM
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Well if you want to indulge in fantasy that's up to you.

There is no concrete proof of the chemtrail conspiracy, I've been waiting for it for a good few years now, so far nothing. Yes, there is a tonne of #e online saying this and that but it's all bollox. If you want to be easily led that's your own fault, but you can see on here that this subject is one of high scrutiny and a hotly debated topic, and the theme that is prevalent in many ATS threads concerning chemtrails is basically ignorance and delusion verses a demand for actual evidence of a clandestine global spraying operation....of which there is none.

Humans are as bad for believing nonsense as they are for messing with the environment.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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"Climate" is weather over time, and there are multiple ways cloud seeding may affect the weather. First, fattening up clouds to produce more rain in itself affects the weather; the question again is the degree of difference cloud seeding makes. Next, combining silver iodide cloud seeding material with jet contrail exhaust helps to produce more huge clouds of frozen ice that create shade and alter the way sunlight hits the Earth (according to NASA, contrails often block sunlight more effectively than ordinary cirrus clouds at the same altitude).
the silver iodide mixes with the contrails and a chain reaction forms the white hazy skies that block some of the heat from the sun

Source



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:20 AM
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Are you going to deny that as well?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:34 AM
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Contrails can and do block the sun depending on how bit the are/get. And they do it without any additional chemicals.
It all depends on if the conditions let them linger or dissipate quickly.
Intersting study.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:34 AM
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The use of the word chemtrail has made you stumble.

If only you could get past the word chemtrail and stop using that word as an excuse to not look into the undisclosed projects and operations the MILITARY, the NAVY, the AIR-FORCE are involved in and have done in regards to controlling the weather, you may be of help resolving, but I doubt it.


The amount of military aircraft in the sky every 24 hours including the military contractors would have to be accounted for at all times correct?
Also wouldn’t any half whit fill all the planes with substance rather than people? I don’t get why you all push; it’s in the fuel ‘idea? It’s a stupid one created by a debunker I’m guessing.


The way I see, a plane can carry x amount of substance and cover a larger area if humans are not passengers so logic alone is fairly evidentially wouldn’t you say?
If a plane is of the above class how could a civilian get any evidence?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:49 AM
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Ok, so you fill the cargo compartment with chemicals. How do you disperse them? How do you keep people not involved from figuring it out and talking? How do you keep any of the planes from landing somewhere it can be seen with the dispersal system installed (if it's not through the fuel there has to be something noticeable poking out)?



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:52 AM
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Sk8ergrl




"Climate" is weather over time, and there are multiple ways cloud seeding may affect the weather. First, fattening up clouds to produce more rain in itself affects the weather; the question again is the degree of difference cloud seeding makes. Next, combining silver iodide cloud seeding material with jet contrail exhaust helps to produce more huge clouds of frozen ice that create shade and alter the way sunlight hits the Earth (according to NASA, contrails often block sunlight more effectively than ordinary cirrus clouds at the same altitude).
the silver iodide mixes with the contrails and a chain reaction forms the white hazy skies that block some of the heat from the sun

Source


No. Water vapour from the atmosphere adds to the ice content in a contrail and a chain reaction forms the cirrus clouds that trap some of the heat from the sun.



posted on Feb, 17 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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Actually, the amount of any chemical that would be needed to produce the contrail affect has been discussed here and it was very clear that a single plane could not make a chemical trail very long at all based on the capacity and the density needed to be visible.
In the US military a C-5 Gallaxy is the largest cargo plain in inventory. Should we be looking into them for spraying apparatus?

Remember, in order for this to be a military operation, you would need planes, crew, ground crew, maintenance people, logistic specialist, Loadmasters, and many other people to be "in the know" for this to happen. I can say as a former member of the USAF as a flight line technician, I have never seen any evidence of this happening. If it was on such a grand scale, wouldn't there be some accountability?




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