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Tepco Quietly Admits Reactor 3 Could Be Melting Down Now

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posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 06:35 PM
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Levski
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Because the entire thing is one huge conspiracy? IDK. Check out the theory about that Israeli security firm, that the Japanese hired a few months prior to the accident.


"What it lies in our power to do, it lies in our power not to do." --Aristotle

Secret US-Israeli Nuke Transfers Led to Fukushima Blasts
source: www.rense.com...

Fukushima Sabotage – Japanese Journalist Accuses Israel
source: www.veteranstoday.com...
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posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 07:08 PM
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If the OP is right and reactor 3 is going critical....it could be Textbad....as in an ELE.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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for decades and maybe centuries to come.
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iF SO...We won't be here to see it. Bear in mind that if it goes critical....you wouldn't be able to get anyone near the facility....EVER. What happens to the stored water? What happens when the other reactors also go critical?

It would be an extinction level event. No BS



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 07:15 PM
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And as serious as the situation is; why are people still living there?
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One word....POLITICS.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 07:48 PM
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I think the thing that worries me more then this event in Japan is the fact the whole world is not doing or saying anything about it.

Either this is the biggest HOAX ever or it would seem they have found some way off the planet.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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it's not an ELE though.. Chernobyl proved that, the planet has an incredible resilience, add to that the adaptability of the human race and somehow we wlll survive, maybe not as the dominant population, but it's been theorized that if every single cooling pond on the planet went critical (ie: they all dried up and combusted) we would still be able to survive as a species..



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 08:14 PM
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Can't they fly over and drop sand and cement on it and lots of water and bury it, or will it just burn through all of that? Too bad scientists couldn't come up with a way to neutralize it.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 08:32 PM
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fukishima fear mongering again??? come on guys . lets just stick with conspiracies
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posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 08:49 PM
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‘Duct tape, wire nets’ were used to mend Fukushima water tanks - worker

rt.com...


You thought only rednecks came from southern america???

*Slap some duct tape on that there damn thing that'll fix it"



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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Ever since I saw the educational film in middle school about Hiroshima and Nagasaki I wondered what kind of KARMA would come our way for dropping Fat Man and Little Boy on all of those innocent civilians. I hate war.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 10:46 PM
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Thanks Jaffo. Great Article. I had heard about it, but the photo on this link is amazing. I've been posting Fuku related info. on my facebook page, and I just added this article right now.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 10:47 PM
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ShaeTheShaman
fukishima fear mongering again??? come on guys . lets just stick with conspiracies
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I don't think wanting to understand how bad the situation is in Japan is fear mongering. Although I personally get tired and annoyed at half-back blogs, and hearsay information it seems to be the only thing that is available.

It would be nice to know the truth.

We are know from a few Nuclear breaches in the past that Nuclear power is nothing but a lethal toxic hazard waiting to happen, yet we all sit a wait for the next spill, or spills.

It's actually insane, from a logical perspective.

Not sure what the short term answer is, but the long term one is shut down all nuclear reactors worldwide now.

Peace,

RT



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 11:17 PM
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So say we are on the west coast....Say this is even a quarter as bad as they say.... Where would we go?

Say I am paranoid and would like a head start. Any suggestions??



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 11:22 PM
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And as serious as the situation is; why are people still living there?

reply to post by angryhulk



One word....POLITICS.



It would take politics to force my in-laws to leave Iwaki, Fukushima. The family has been there for several generations. All the ancestors are resting there. Leaving the area would interfere with taking care of the graves.



posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 11:49 PM
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I do not want to downplay the seriousness of this situation, because I agree that it is likely more serious than anyone can know at this time. That said, I'd caution against putting too much credence into this specific article, for two reasons.

First, whoever wrote it doesn't even know the difference between radiation and contamination. The writer's "recommendations to mitigate damaging effect of radiation exposure" is a list that consists only of precautions against contamination. None of these preventive measures would do anything to protect you from radiation.

Second, the writer inserts the word "meltdown" inappropriately (e.g. "spent fuel pool criticality (meltdown)"). This insertion implies that the writer believes the words "criticality" and "meltdown" are synonymous, which is a huge misconception propagated by Hollywood films.

In the standard vernacular of the nuclear field, "subcritical" refers to a reactor with declining power, "critical" refers to a reactor operating at a constant power, and "supercritical" refers to a reactor with an increasing power. All of these are normal states for an operating reactor.

Now, I understand that these are not normally operating reactors, they are pools of spent fuel, but the sketchy use of terminology really hurts this article for me.

On the other hand, the numerous typos could mean that English is not the author's first language. Also, there is the issue of translating from Japanese for the TEPCO quotes, so I can see where these mistakes might be made.

For articles without language barriers though, I highly suggest everyone pay close attention to terminology before eating up what the writer is feeding you.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:00 AM
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MOX GATE has been exposed, they were using plutonium enriched fuel in R3 and R4 and here is some of the proof.

www.blogger.com.../target=post;postID=1046856254474797408;onPublishedMenu=posts;onClosedMenu=posts;pos tNum=6;postname



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:05 AM
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The future of mankind on this planet will include the ability to survive the radiation we bring forth...

Two-Headed humans like in "A Canticle for Leibowitz"

A Canticle for Leibowitz



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:13 AM
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Realtruth

ShaeTheShaman
fukishima fear mongering again??? come on guys . lets just stick with conspiracies
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I don't think wanting to understand how bad the situation is in Japan is fear mongering. Although I personally get tired and annoyed at half-back blogs, and hearsay information it seems to be the only thing that is available.

It would be nice to know the truth.

We are know from a few Nuclear breaches in the past that Nuclear power is nothing but a lethal toxic hazard waiting to happen, yet we all sit a wait for the next spill, or spills.

It's actually insane, from a logical perspective.

Not sure what the short term answer is, but the long term one is shut down all nuclear reactors worldwide now.

Peace,

RT


The problem is this has no basis in reality. Every form of electrical generation has associated with it what's known as a death index. This index is a measure of how many people are either killed or seriously harmed in the generation of electricity. It takes into account nuclear meltdowns, coal miner deaths, natural gas explosions, particulates in the exhaust, and everything else so many kwh generated.

Here's two copies of this index. The first is from 2008
nextbigfuture.com...

This second one is from June 2012
www.forbes.com...

By either measure you can see that nuclear is safer than all other options by a pretty significant amount.

Now if we would adopt some of the advances in nuclear power and start using generation 4 reactors (all reactors in the US are generation 1 or 2, Fukushima was also a generation 2) or better yet thorium reactors which are physically unable to meltdown and produce waste with a halflife of decades rather than millennia we could see even further reduction of those numbers.

Because of it's high output and low amount of harm for the electricity generated, nuclear is practically a modern day miracle. Nothing else is anywhere close to as safe or viable.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:37 AM
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Unless something goes wrong in which case we're all screwed.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:51 AM
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beezzer
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Ok. Not good.

But (allow me to play devil's advocate) wouldn't they anticipate that and have materials or contingency plans to insure that it doesn't happen?


This reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend of mine in San Francisco.

Me: Are you getting worried about the radiation levels out there?
Her: What radiation levels?
Me: (I explain everything to her)
Her: oh. Well if the president hasn't said anything, then I don't think we should be worried about it.

They're not going to do anything or say much of anything until they can't hide it at all anymore, then they will come up with some last minute "contingency plan". The thing is, that ship already sailed.
I have family members in Nome telling me about the salmon they have been finding. They're bloody and dead.

I'm not the doom sort of person either. I don't even get into that. But for those doom lovers, well, here's your real doom.
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