Tepco Quietly Admits Reactor 3 Could Be Melting Down Now

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posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:35 PM
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Sremmos80
So if there was some type of mass evac of japan officials and essential personal, would that be something that would be seen? Or would they be able to do that in secrecy, via underground tunnels ect?


In the modern era I do not believe you could hide such a thing. Too much social media.




posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:36 PM
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They wouldn't be able to hide a mass evacuation, but if they were actually pulling off a conspiracy of silence of this magnitude, would they do a mass evacuation? They'd more likely evac only the Japanese elites. So, have the Japanese filthy rich elites been moving en masse lately?



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:37 PM
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angryhulk
I know this has obvious worldwide implications, but in all seriousness how will this affect the populace in Japan over the next decade? And as serious as the situation is; why are people still living there?


Where will they go? China? (lol) The U.S.?



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:38 PM
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justreleased

angryhulk
I know this has obvious worldwide implications, but in all seriousness how will this affect the populace in Japan over the next decade? And as serious as the situation is; why are people still living there?


Where will they go? China? (lol) The U.S.?



That's a question someone may have to start looking into finding an answer to...soon.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:39 PM
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justreleased

angryhulk
I know this has obvious worldwide implications, but in all seriousness how will this affect the populace in Japan over the next decade? And as serious as the situation is; why are people still living there?


Where will they go? China? (lol) The U.S.?



Well that's one thing I don't know, however I am fascinated as to how it will affect the Japanese who choose to stay there.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:40 PM
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I'll tell ya how it will affect them. If it goes bad and they stay, it'll kill them.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:44 PM
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I really don't understand why the rest of the world hasn't stood up to Japan yet and waged war on them if they don't allow "others" to come in and help fix this disaster?? Why aren't ALL the leading minds on this industry on route to Japan to determine a solution for this? This can have world-wide effects, so it shouldn't just be Tepco and Japan trying to figure this mess out..



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:44 PM
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Seriously the population of Japan is like....127,000,000 over a third of the U.S. population. Where are all of the people going?



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:45 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. It depends I think on the prevailing winds and currents and how long they allow the radioactivity to just spew out all over everywhere. Parts of Japan may remain livable. I don't know.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:45 PM
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I think this is a little misleading.

The only mention of radioactive steam is from the Turner Radio Network Blog. The author appears to be extremely speculative on what he reports.

The only thing TEPCO has actually confirmed is that steam has been seen coming from the reactor and they do not know why. They have not confirmed it is radioactive steam, nor that a meltdown is eminent.

Remember in July 2013, steam was seen coming from the same building and it was determined to be evaporating rain water that had made its way into the reactor building.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:45 PM
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The Japanese would stand in the fire and deny it's existence. It is called Bushido, basically they would do anything to save face, including destroy the world. You can bet your little tushy they care less about radiating the USA.

Sadly they part they are denying is that 89 tons burning out of control is (as I said when this kicked off) a ELE event. This is not a joke or doom porn. I hate doom porn and have laughed in the face of it since joining ATS.

However My uncle wrote the ballot argument that shut down the Rancho Seco nuke plant in Northern California when I was 11 years old. I am now 48 and like to think that I know a fair bit about the effects of radiation.

If this situation at Fuku goes fully critical (I suspect it will) I and my small little family are heading for South America. I will sell my belongings remotely as I know a ton of stupid postriches that will ignore their reality and be happy to help me out.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:46 PM
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justreleased
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Seriously the population of Japan is like....127,000,000 over a third of the U.S. population. Where are all of the people going?



Africa has plenty of room and China has already built loads of "ghost" cities, maybe they can go there...



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:46 PM
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BlackJackal
I think this is a little misleading.

The only mention of radioactive steam is from the Turner Radio Network Blog. The author appears to be extremely speculative on what he reports.

The only thing TEPCO has actually confirmed is that steam has been seen coming from the reactor and they do not know why. They have not confirmed it is radioactive steam, nor that a meltdown is eminent.

Remember in July 2013, steam was seen coming from the same building and it was determined to be evaporating rain water that had made its way into the reactor building.


Steam is generated by heat. Heat that is being generated by a failed power plant. It is not real hard to see the "why"..........



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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BlackJackal
I think this is a little misleading.

The only mention of radioactive steam is from the Turner Radio Network Blog. The author appears to be extremely speculative on what he reports.

The only thing TEPCO has actually confirmed is that steam has been seen coming from the reactor and they do not know why. They have not confirmed it is radioactive steam, nor that a meltdown is eminent.

Remember in July 2013, steam was seen coming from the same building and it was determined to be evaporating rain water that had made its way into the reactor building.


"The only thing TEPCO has actually confirmed "......Right we should trust TEPCO because?!?



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:51 PM
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Is there an "official" news source other than some blog?
I'd like to see this being reported officially



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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jhn7537

justreleased
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Seriously the population of Japan is like....127,000,000 over a third of the U.S. population. Where are all of the people going?



Africa has plenty of room and China has already built loads of "ghost" cities, maybe they can go there...


LOL.

Look at your history. I don't think China wants a 100,000,000 Japs.

It would be like the U.S. inviting 100,000,000 Russians during the 'cold war'.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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Blind pride is a scary thing, and the Japanese people are filled with loads of it. Zero straight answers will ever come from them, and this means we (the rest of the world) may need to intervene.. Sadly, it may be too late, but in any event, the sooner the better should be the course of action. All countries around the world SHOULD have an interest here, as this COULD turn into a ELE type event. If Japan doesn't want to let any other Govt's, scientists, engineers, experts, etc. into the area, then Japan needs to be removed from the equation forcibly and the rest of the world needs to find an answer to this problem...



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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justreleased

jhn7537

justreleased
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Seriously the population of Japan is like....127,000,000 over a third of the U.S. population. Where are all of the people going?



Africa has plenty of room and China has already built loads of "ghost" cities, maybe they can go there...


LOL.

Look at your history. I don't think China wants a 100,000,000 Japs.

It would be like the U.S. inviting 100,000,000 Russians during the 'cold war'.


Well, the question was asked where? and Africa is a place with loads of open land still undeveloped. Maybe the Chinese owned plots of land aren't the most ideal choice, but in rare situations like this, it is better for the world to team up to fix the problems, then to all go their own separate ways.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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Mamatus
Steam is generated by heat. Heat that is being generated by a failed power plant. It is not real hard to see the "why"..........


A nuclear reactor, even one in perfect condition, produces extreme amounts of heat.(specifically, this is what they are designed to do) This reactor has had its enclosure damaged allowing the elements the ability to reach the reactor.

Imagine a tea kettle heated over a fire and then pour water on top of it, what happens?



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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BlackJackal
I think this is a little misleading.

The only mention of radioactive steam is from the Turner Radio Network Blog. The author appears to be extremely speculative on what he reports.

The only thing TEPCO has actually confirmed is that steam has been seen coming from the reactor and they do not know why. They have not confirmed it is radioactive steam, nor that a meltdown is eminent.

Remember in July 2013, steam was seen coming from the same building and it was determined to be evaporating rain water that had made its way into the reactor building.


I can hear what you're saying and I would love to agree. But I do feel the article goes a bit further than that. They seem to be of the opinion that “pellets of radioactive fuel, ejected when the reactor exploded, went into the spent fuel pool located above the reactor and have begun melting down so seriously they are boiling off the water in the spent fuel pool.”Should this be the case “the situation could escalate rapidly out of control.”

That seems pretty serious to me, like it's a completely uncontrolled reaction which they have no ability at all to view or guage. I suppose technically you are correct, but it also seems as there is an undercurrent in this, through various quotes, that says "Yeah this is the pellets and yeah, this is quite possibly getting ready to go south quickly." I hope you're view is right. I would rather be wrong about this than watch the World burn, honestly.
edit on 3-1-2014 by jaffo because: Grammar correction





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