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Growing up unvaccinated: This is what happens when your parents refuse

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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:23 AM
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Baddogma
The anti-vaccine movement is horrible on many levels. Letting other people be exposed to your darling, toxic little petri dishes is unforgivable.

Vaccines work and though they rarely have an unintended consequence, a 1 in a several thousand "what if" is nothing compared to the horrid certainty of a preventable disease.

There IS a certain conspiracy in vaccines, though. Doctors have conspired to save lives and prevent tragic disease in spite of people's paranoid, ignorant impulses against all science.

Seeing nearly wiped out disease re-emerge in schools lately, due to confused parents, is a head scratcher.

Then again, if it weren't so tragic, letting evolution do its thing by weeding out the bad apples' genetic line might be satisfying, but those non-vaccinated kids aren't making the decisions... the well intentioned but ignorant parents are.

Hmmm, that reminds me... I'm decades late for some boosters.


My choosing not to vaccinate my children does not make me any of the things that you have alluded to or indicated that I am in your quote. Your quote does however say many fascinating things about you. Next time I have to make an important decision I'll remember to consut with you since your clearly know better than the rest of us... BAHAHAhahahahahahahahaha...




posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:27 AM
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thedeadtruth
As a mortician who has done plenty of cases over the last 35 years of children who have died from preventable illness. When I hear a parent ( usually white privileged middle class ) state they are " not going to do that" .... I just want to punch them in the head to wake them up.


YES!.. Because freedom of choice shouldn't really exist... People should just do as YOU want them to do???



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:31 AM
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thedeadtruth
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"We have the same right to interpret the available information and make an informed decision just as you do. "

Hate to tell you this mate. But with 99% of the population not even knowing the basics of how their own body works. Simply because they are so lazy they cant be bothered accessing this free information. It kind of destroys your argument.

Please note : I work in the field of mortuary science and run a fitness center.



Not really. People have the right to make their own choices without being judged. It's simple. You mind your own business and hopefully other people will mind theirs...



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:56 AM
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AutumnWitch657

six67seven
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That's fine. It just makes me uneasy when a child/baby is given 20 vaccines (exaggeration) in a short amount of time.


You do know that they don't need to have all the vaccines until they are ready for school . You can pace the vaccines
And 20 vaccines? No deary not anywhere near that number. Not even if you include booster shots.
MMR, DPT, VARICELLA, TB, hepatitis a and b. There are a few others but these are the required vaccines for school.

Ok just noticed the word exaggeration sorry.
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26 actually. Including boosters.
Al due prior to starting school in the district.

Fact.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 12:57 AM
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thedeadtruth
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snipped...
Please note : I work in the field of mortuary science and run a fitness center.



Interesting life pursuits...and by your way of thinking, since fitness is a necessary part of living a healthy life, shouldn't everyone be required to be physically fit?
Taking your belief in mandatory vaccination to the next logical step would mean that we'd all be required to prove that we have a membership in your fitness center or some similar institution?



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 01:04 AM
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That woman reproduced ?? Wow was he drunk or something......I mean really. Lil
The argument at hand is pointless in and of itself. After three pages of the same thing over and over and then the other thread . It is your personal opinion and research that convinces one way or the other. Both are right and both are wrong. Luckily for now we can still choose in the future not so much....



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 01:06 AM
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There are Pros and Cons regarding Vaccines. When most of these diseases that the vaccines were created for were on the decline in the US and UK because of better living standards and better sanitation people were given these and a lot died as a result.

Just because it isn't in the news does not mean it isn't so. If you look back at the Chronological History of Vaccines you will be shocked to learn a lot of people were killed and a lot damaged by the same vaccines that were supposed to help them.

I don't trust these chemical cocktails. I know a lot of people that have never vaccinated their children and their kids have never contracted any of the diseases that vaccinated kids have gotten as they have grown up.

By taking Vaccines you have a 50 / 50 chance of either being maimed or killed. Autism is now on the rise because of these things. And the MMR vaccine is very good at destroying brain cells.

Have a look at the history of vaccinations and health. It is a very accurate history and is very informative. If you want to disbelieve it and play dumb then that is up to u but it's worth the time out to ave a good read of it!

Chronological History Of Health



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:02 AM
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50/50 chance of being maimed or killed? I have had a flu shot pretty much every year for the last 20....am I that lucky to have been not maimed or killed?
Pfft.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 04:24 AM
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Chicken pox does not look anything like the picture you posted. Come on!!

I was vaccinated for everything. Still got measles, mumps, chicken pox. It was very common back then. I'm lucky I didn't get polio.

It comes down to the luck of the draw sometimes.

The woman is a whiner.
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 05:37 AM
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Okay man here you go straight from the cdc autism rates are now 1 in 88
And thanks for calling me on my bluff, I totally pulled the 1000 percent increase statistic out of my fuc.king as.s

the real figure is more like 1,148%
Now if u can still navigate your web browser with your vaccine mercury impaired brain and comprehend the words on the screen you stand on nothing
NOTHING
I can make claims, that I know are true. You can question them, before thinking or researching for yourself, but you don't question the news or the government I bet! The state is your god, Obama your idol

www.cdc.gov...

This website claims it's now 1 in 50

singularityhub.com...

1 percent of the population of children in the U.S. ages 3-17 have an autism spectrum disorder.1
Prevalence is estimated at 1 in 88 births.2
1 to 1.5 million Americans live with an autism spectrum disorder.3
Fastest-growing developmental disability; 1,148% growth rate.4
10 - 17 % annual growth.5
$60 billion annual cost.6
60% of costs are in adult services.7
Cost of lifelong care can be reduced by 2/3 with early diagnosis and intervention.8
In 10 years, the annual cost will be $200-400 billion.9
1 percent of the adult population of the United Kingdom have an autism spectrum disorder.10
The cost of autism over the lifespan is 3.2 million dollars per person.11

here's the website
www.autism-society.org...

Is this good enough for you, or are you gonna have to push vaccines on your children and people you know then wait 20 years to realize you're a big buffoon with kids with autism and you get Alzheimers n u thought u knew something but it was just an empty belief and you're gonna have to start all over again in a new meat suit and experience more pain and ignorance for another lifetime at least when u coulda just used the brain god gave u the first time

Ever wonder why someone would want to impair the intelligence of the human race? Maybe so they could dominate all the idiots and take their money, their freedom and their souls



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 05:39 AM
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hudsonhawk69

thedeadtruth
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"We have the same right to interpret the available information and make an informed decision just as you do. "

Hate to tell you this mate. But with 99% of the population not even knowing the basics of how their own body works. Simply because they are so lazy they cant be bothered accessing this free information. It kind of destroys your argument.

Please note : I work in the field of mortuary science and run a fitness center.



Not really. People have the right to make their own choices without being judged. It's simple. You mind your own business and hopefully other people will mind theirs...


When it comes to ignoring the safety of others the choice isn't yours anymore, it's the same as speed limits. Do you think people should be free to ignore speed limits, or dui limits?

Maybe you don't care about your kids, but they will spread disease to other kids, not acceptable.

Science works, ignorance fails.

Would your let your kids to to India without any vaccinations? If the answer is yes, you should have your kids taken away, simple.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 05:52 AM
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Whether or not you believe there is a conspiracy regarding the vaccine industry, one cannot deny that money - not altruism - is far more likely to be the key motivator in the minds of most vaccine manufacturers. This report mentions that revenues from vaccines will be worth about $52bn by 2016.

Another article worth reading if interested in this topic.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 06:01 AM
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sjorges2002
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It is stupid to vaccinate newborns they dont have an immu e system to train. Source: phd molecular biology.


I'm guessing you weren't awarded your PhD then?
< shakes head >



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 06:02 AM
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Who are you to decide if I can raise my kids or not huh? What makes you qualified to make that determination for someone else? You believe in statism, fascism, and liberalism, and socialism(commy). What happened to common law in this country? It's like it don't exist. You're a government slave, told what to do so they can milk you for all your labor with the tax code, and rules(statutes) designed to raise revenue and be broken. So what if i'm driving my sports car 100 mph on the highway without damaging anything? If i'm not interfering with your right to life, liberty, or property then if something bothers you too bad.

If vaccines worked so well then why do they not protect you from someone not vaccinated with the illness? Doesn't that just prove that it's completely ineffective against the disease? Common sense people, you're oxymorons

If i don't want poison injected into my child's veins then I guess my child needs to be taken from me and put in an artificial foster home where he/she will never be happy. If I want to freely non commercially without license plates or not sign up for a drivers license contract then I guess I better be locked up for not transferring legal title of my property to the state so they can own it. And if I want to live off grid, I can't do that outside of L.A. cuz the power company wants to make bank off me so swat team will kick me off my own property that i own outright. And if I want to go fishing cuz maybe I'm hungry well I better go get permission from the county first. If i want to a plant, I have to worry and live in fear of being caged like an animal with real animals that might want to hurt me.
What if i don't like being a U.S. citizen and paying taxes and don't want any services of the state? Am I forced to have to accept them and all the debt and man made laws? Why can't I just live where I want like animals?

Sedm.org

Wake up bro, quit controlling others, you're just a mindless pawn for evil in a chess game against GOD.
Not all of us incarnated to be slaves our whole lives. You be a good servant and do what you're told, pay your taxes, get vaccinated, and stay uninformed. When you don't get the social security you paid into your whole life don't blame anyone but yourself
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posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 06:02 AM
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fenson76
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You can find more bad stories about vaccines than the good ones...It's up to individuals to decide, not the government.


And you can find more real evidence that vaccines benefit people than you can find real evidence to the contrary.

Anyone can write anything about everything. Doesn't mean it's real though.


(post by Pardon? removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 06:09 AM
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VeritasAequitas

Xcalibur254
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That's correct. I don't know why anyone would think otherwise. Do dead humans mutate?


On their own? Why no they don't, but can a dead virus be reactivated by external factors, like say the harmful additives in our food supply which build up in the body over time, or other additives from other vaccines received on the same day?

Funny how a lot, although not all, of the people I know who get flu vaccines, wind up getting extremely sick..
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It's impossible for a dead virus to mutate or to be reactivated by chemicals once dead.
When it's dead, it's dead.
That's in biology 101.

As for your "friends" who've become "extremely sick", I would suggest they had a virus prior to being vaccinated or they contracted a heavy cold.
Confirmation bias.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 06:11 AM
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MOSTwanted
reply to post by carabao
 


Who are you to decide if I can raise my kids or not huh? What makes you qualified to make that determination for someone else? You believe in statism, fascism, and liberalism, and socialism(commy). What happened to common law in this country? It's like it don't exist. You're a government slave, told what to do so they can milk you for all your labor with the tax code, and rules(statutes) designed to raise revenue and be broken. So what if i'm driving a 100 on the highway in a sports car at night sober. If i'm not interfering with your right to life, liberty, or property then if something bothers you too bad.

If i don't want poison injected into my child's veins then I guess my child needs to be taken from me and put in an artificial foster home where he/she will never be happy. If I want to travel freely non commercially without license plates or get a driving privilege license then I guess I better be locked up for not transferring legal title of my property to the state so they can own it. And if I want to live off grid, I can't do that outside of L.A. cuz the power company wants to make bank off me so swat team will kick me off my own property that i own outright. And if I want to go fishing cuz maybe I'm hungry well I better go get permission from the county first. If i want to smoke a plant, I have to worry and live in fear of being caged like an animal with real animals that might want to hurt me.

Wake up bro, quit controlling others, you're just a mindless pawn for evil in a chess game against GOD.
Not all of us incarnated to be slaves our whole lives. You be a good servant and do what you're told, pay your taxes, get vaccinated, and stay uninformed. When you don't get the social security you paid into your whole life don't blame anyone but yourself



Going by some of the posts in this thread I think it's only fair that vaccinations become mandatory with only medical exemptions being allowed.
The general populace are obviously too ignorant or backward to make their own judgements.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 07:10 AM
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scare tactics and frightening
photos intended to do what?



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 07:34 AM
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It's impossible for a dead virus to mutate or to be reactivated by chemicals once dead.
When it's dead, it's dead.


I'm sorry, but I just simply don't believe that. If we can reanimate a complex organism like a human being up to an hour after death, then I see no reason why an infinitely less complex microorganism such as a virus, can not. Also, I believe it should be at least stated that there is no known method of re-activating a virus.

Furthermore, reanimation or not, I think it is seriously bad taste for anybody to inject a virus, dead or not, into their body. That's just stupid >.>



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