Growing up unvaccinated: This is what happens when your parents refuse

boymonkey74
reply to post by stevcolx

 

50/50 chance of being maimed or killed? I have had a flu shot pretty much every year for the last 20....am I that lucky to have been not maimed or killed?
Pfft.

Really? Good for you! Hopefully nothing will happen then. History will teach you otherwise though!

reply to post by MOSTwanted


As I have pointed out in other threads during the same time period we have also seen a decline in other mental disorders like schizophrenia. So do you believe that vaccines are curing schizophrenia? Or could it be that better diagnosis along with a diminishing stigma in visiting mental health professionals could account for these increases.

If autism is caused by vaccines why is there a positive correlation between autism and proximity to freeway? Or what about the study that was able to replicate autism in mice by exposing them to constant white noise? There is plenty of legitimate research out there that indicates there is an environmental factor at play with autism. However, none of it indicates that vaccines are that factor.

reply to post by Xcalibur254


Well put. I can only add that all the anecdotal "evidence" of a connection between vaccines and various woes, such as autism, is based on the fallacy Post hoc, ergo propter hoc: which as I'm sure you know means "after that, therefore because of that." Because every child gets vaccines early on, all of the ones who eventually become autistic have naturally been vaccinated. This does not mean the vaccines caused the syndrome. Most children are fed formula from a bottle at an early age. Does that mean that baby formula causes autism? And here's the tricky one: what about the autistic children who were breast fed? Did they imbibe their autism at their mother's breast? No, that doesn't bear thinking about. It must be due to the vaccines, right?

Pardon?

MOSTwanted
reply to post by carabao

 

Who are you to decide if I can raise my kids or not huh? What makes you qualified to make that determination for someone else? You believe in statism, fascism, and liberalism, and socialism(commy). What happened to common law in this country? It's like it don't exist. You're a government slave, told what to do so they can milk you for all your labor with the tax code, and rules(statutes) designed to raise revenue and be broken. So what if i'm driving a 100 on the highway in a sports car at night sober. If i'm not interfering with your right to life, liberty, or property then if something bothers you too bad.

If i don't want poison injected into my child's veins then I guess my child needs to be taken from me and put in an artificial foster home where he/she will never be happy. If I want to travel freely non commercially without license plates or get a driving privilege license then I guess I better be locked up for not transferring legal title of my property to the state so they can own it. And if I want to live off grid, I can't do that outside of L.A. cuz the power company wants to make bank off me so swat team will kick me off my own property that i own outright. And if I want to go fishing cuz maybe I'm hungry well I better go get permission from the county first. If i want to smoke a plant, I have to worry and live in fear of being caged like an animal with real animals that might want to hurt me.

Wake up bro, quit controlling others, you're just a mindless pawn for evil in a chess game against GOD.
Not all of us incarnated to be slaves our whole lives. You be a good servant and do what you're told, pay your taxes, get vaccinated, and stay uninformed. When you don't get the social security you paid into your whole life don't blame anyone but yourself

Going by some of the posts in this thread I think it's only fair that vaccinations become mandatory with only medical exemptions being allowed.
The general populace are obviously too ignorant or backward to make their own judgements.

Thank your very much Pardon?, I was about to break t&c in a bad way.

As long as most people vaccinate against polio (example), then everything will be OK, but as soon as this ignorance takes over then the anti-vaccine fools will be in for a rude awakening.

They seem to have no idea how many lives have been saved

Guess Semmelweiz had to fight ignorance in the same way...

MOSTwanted
reply to post by carabao

 

Who are you to decide if I can raise my kids or not huh? What makes you qualified to make that determination for someone else? You believe in statism, fascism, and liberalism, and socialism(commy). What happened to common law in this country? It's like it don't exist. You're a government slave, told what to do so they can milk you for all your labor with the tax code, and rules(statutes) designed to raise revenue and be broken. So what if i'm driving my sports car 100 mph on the highway without damaging anything? If i'm not interfering with your right to life, liberty, or property then if something bothers you too bad.

If vaccines worked so well then why do they not protect you from someone not vaccinated with the illness? Doesn't that just prove that it's completely ineffective against the disease? Common sense people, you're oxymorons

If i don't want poison injected into my child's veins then I guess my child needs to be taken from me and put in an artificial foster home where he/she will never be happy. If I want to freely non commercially without license plates or not sign up for a drivers license contract then I guess I better be locked up for not transferring legal title of my property to the state so they can own it. And if I want to live off grid, I can't do that outside of L.A. cuz the power company wants to make bank off me so swat team will kick me off my own property that i own outright. And if I want to go fishing cuz maybe I'm hungry well I better go get permission from the county first. If i want to a plant, I have to worry and live in fear of being caged like an animal with real animals that might want to hurt me.
What if i don't like being a U.S. citizen and paying taxes and don't want any services of the state? Am I forced to have to accept them and all the debt and man made laws? Why can't I just live where I want like animals?

Sedm.org

Wake up bro, quit controlling others, you're just a mindless pawn for evil in a chess game against GOD.
Not all of us incarnated to be slaves our whole lives. You be a good servant and do what you're told, pay your taxes, get vaccinated, and stay uninformed. When you don't get the social security you paid into your whole life don't blame anyone but yourself

edit on 5-1-2014 by MOSTwanted because: (no reason given)

Yeah, that's me... A fascist, liberal communist(commy)
In communion with the banksters and big pharma....

I feel truely sad there is no vaccine against total ignorance, and yes your children should be taken into protective custody.

Ps: science rules, ignorance drools

reply to post by Larry2323


Its good we are in tune

Hopefully people along this line will be in majority rather than the exception. Balance is of imperative importance.

This doll highlights the number of vaccines a child receives until age 2. Of course there are several vaccines in many of those injections. One scary aspect is that EVERY baby is injected with the same amount of toxins as an adult. Imagine you giving your baby an adult dose of any other medication. You would rightfully be in trouble.

reply to post by Pardon?


How about you jog on, hmm? This is America jack; not some country ruled by an authoritarian dictator like your queen. It goes against our very Constitution to enact what you just insinuated... You can't just force people to take shots or faulty medicine that they don't want, nor is it any of your god damned business to say that we don't have the right to decide for ourselves, or even that our kids should be taken away from us for not complying.. That violates our free will, and right to govern our own lifes; that's not what government is for..

InverseLookingGlass
reply to post by six67seven

 

The OP is an anecdote, not even approaching science or actionable information.
26 injections before 15 months. This is fact.

schedule linked here

other little known facts:

0% of these substances have been safety tested on babies. No test has been done on multi-vax interactions on adults or children. You might ask then, why does the CDC believe they are safe to put in the psuedo-mandatory regime?

1. The single blind tests of a single vax on adults, conducted and documented by the drug companies do not show a "significant" number of serious side effects. There is no burden of proof of efficacy of protection against pathogens. Zero.

That's it. Feel safe yet? Welcome to the experiment on babies, you are probably participating. Sorry if you are one of the insignificant number of serious side effects. Prepare to be denied and victim shamed by the drug company PR machine.

Get profit motive out of health care science. It's a fundamental conflict of interest.

Excellent post. I would give you 10 stars if I could.

I agree 100% about following the money trail. The concept or idea behind vaccination sounds all warm and fuzzy on the surface, but it does not stand up to scrutiny.

AutumnWitch657
reply to post by Visitor2012

 

There are dead or weakend strains of the virus in the vaccines. Nothing else. No nanobots controlling us or poisons to make us complacent. Just life saving vaccine ingredients.
Most people don't think that doctors under government orders are trying to poison us.

You state things as fact, but you haven't a single clue what's in those cocktails and neither do the Doctor's. But it's nice you believe in good intentions....

Pardon?

Visitor2012
The white coats would have you believe that taking vaccines is good for you, I simply don't trust them anymore. I've had my childhood vaccinations, but nowadays, who knows what's in those cocktails.

It really sucks that the untrustworthiness of our health professionals puts us into this catch 22.

Erm, I do.
It's really easy to find out too.
It's not the untrustworthiness of the health professionals that puts this into catch 22 as there isn't a catch 22.
That part is in your mind-set.

Yeah, the publicly available documentation on those vaccines contain 100% truth. I'll keep my mindset, and you keep your gullible one.

To any of you lazy parents out there..
Fast food,
Frozen quick meals made for microwaves,
Ready made box meals, (Like hamburger helper)
Sugary drinks with caffeine or without,
Frozen pizzas,
and even most chain restaurants and some independents ones.

All these food examples have chemicals which contribute to illness
by starvation of nutrition. Thus ensuring you need to see the doctor
when you or the little germ factories we call children get sick. A healthy person
requires a Healthy support structure internally, and the above examples
seriously lack the actual required nutrition the body needs to stay healthy.

I had to Go the the ER back when Obama was pushing Vaccines for H1N1
during his first election (I believe he also had investments in Baxter) Well
at the time of my visit ( because I had gotten something in my Eye) the doctor
whom was first there to look at my eye was a veteran at the hospital for 20 years.
I asked her about the push for vaccines and she quickly replied " They will have to fire
me, I will not be vaccinated." She told me several years ago she had her son vaccinated
at 5 (dont remember why) and she said shortly after the vaccine his mood, and overall
personality changed abruptly and was diagnosed with autism. After all the research she
did, she came to the conclusion it was due to the vaccination. Such a shame so many
put their trust in these vaccine companies.

I for one, will not take the chance, nor do i take antibiotics.

To any of you lazy parents out there..
Fast food,
Frozen quick meals made for microwaves,
Ready made box meals, (Like hamburger helper)
Sugary drinks with caffeine or without,
Frozen pizzas,
and even most chain restaurants and some independents ones.

All these food examples have chemicals which contribute to illness
by starvation of nutrition. Thus ensuring you need to see the doctor
when you or the little germ factories we call children get sick. A healthy person
requires a Healthy support structure internally, and the above examples
seriously lack the actual required nutrition the body needs to stay healthy.

I had to Go the the ER back when Obama was pushing Vaccines for H1N1
during his first election (I believe he also had investments in Baxter) Well
at the time of my visit ( because I had gotten something in my Eye) the doctor
whom was first there to look at my eye was a veteran at the hospital for 20 years.
I asked her about the push for vaccines and she quickly replied " They will have to fire
me, I will not be vaccinated." She told me several years ago she had her son vaccinated
at 5 (dont remember why) and she said shortly after the vaccine his mood, and overall
personality changed abruptly and was diagnosed with autism. After all the research she
did, she came to the conclusion it was due to the vaccination. Such a shame so many
put their trust in these vaccine companies.

I for one, will not take the chance, nor do i take antibiotics.

reply to post by hudsonhawk69



Good call if the person is making an "educated" choice.

But if they are putting other people at risk through willful ignorance. The choice needs to be taken away from them.

I know it goes against the grain on this site in general. But some people are just smarter than others at certain things. And you should in that case just obey a command.

Being stubborn and being smart are not the same thing.

I can give you real life experiences of people "making a stand" that caused absolute misery to everyone around them if you want. And in all cases I have never heard the person state after ..

" sorry I was not smart enough to be making decisions . It was all my fault "


No. It seems those same people love to continue to blame others. Long after any logical conclusion by everyone else has been cemented.

reply to post by carabao


Guess what happened around the time the prevalence all the major diseases declined? Water sanitation technology. Guess what Pharma would like you to believe? It was because of their vaccines. Obviously if you're so concerned that an unvaccinated person will get you sick, maybe you should just stay in your house and never come out cuz the vaccines you got won't protect you. HAHA.

You must have never heard about all the polio cases in India caused by the VAccines themselves. And the SV-40 virus that was found to contaminate these vaccines. And I bet that 1,148% increase in autism must be due to some mysterious environmental phenomenon. And Nevermind that UNICEF a Bill Gates foundation wants you to donate money to them so they can vaccinate all the children in 3rd world countries.

I personally know people who got their child vaccinated and they got autism. those same parents didnt vaccinate their other children and they are fine. You're a sheep being led to the slaughter, and for that I have no sympathy for you because its what someone with your mental ideology deserves

reply to post by Xcalibur254


Look at the dsm V. If you're too happy there's somethng wrong with u, sad one day u need pills. It's quack science with no basis in legitimacy. Everyone is different, some people have similar problems, pschiatry just tries to label and lump these differences in a categorical dictionary and tell u this pill cures that. Placebo effect? it comes down to diet and eating healthy has been hijacked

reply to post by MOSTwanted


Maybe you should look at the DSM. Mania is something much more than being happy. And the criteria for depression requires that a person be depressed for six months and not have the cause be related to the loss of a loved one. It is true that many psychological disorders are overdiagnosed. However, this is mainly due to the fact that people would rather visit their GP than a psychiatrist. Your GP has no idea how ti diagnose psychological disorders. I bet most of them have never cracked open the DSM or even perused an issue of Psychology Today. Yet most of prescriptions I see for Adderall, Zoloft, Lexapro, etc are coming from GPs.

reply to post by MOSTwanted


You are right that there are cases of vaccine induced Polio, it is however very rare, 1 in 750.000, and guess what.... It's prevailent in areas of low vaccine coverage.

Re. Wikipedia:] This is believed to be a rare event, but outbreaks of vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP) have been reported, and tend to occur in areas of low coverage by OPV, presumably because the OPV is itself protective against the related outbreak strain.

But reality isn't the anti-vax wacko's forté.

And btw, I travel a lot in Asia and I like to be healthy, so does my kids. But they wouldn't be without vaccinations after a year in India(last year), or 6 months in rural Thailand (where we are now).

Would you risk taking your kids here without vaccines?

Like your signature says: Go read a book.

reply to post by carabao


I would weigh the risks and necessary precautions before deciding to travel abroad. I'm not saying every vaccine is bad for you or is totally ineffective. And by the way, citing wikipedia is dangerous. All I'm saying is that you should know what's in each and everything you put into your body and no just blindly believe what other profit motivated individuals tell you. I got all the required vaccinations, and I'm pretty much A ok. But I do feel like there's an insidious incentive to propagandize and promote disease by the very manufacturers of these "cures." There's very few if any independent studies comparing those vaccinated to those unvaccinated and many suggesting that those vaccinated got the very disease they were supposed to immune to.

Here's an interesting read for starters

www.naturalnews.com...

reply to post by MOSTwanted

And by the way, citing wikipedia is dangerous.

Oh the irony. Natural News is probably the most biased "news" outlet I have come across. They make Fox, CNN, and MSNBC look truthful. I have never read an NN article that doesn't have glaring lies in it.