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poet1b
reply to post by ChesterJohn
We could put all 7 billion in Texas and give them all an acre of land and there still would be enough room in Texas for more. so land resources is not a problem.
Seriously!
And what about water?
What about all the space that would be needed for roads, markets, waste disposal?
Honestly, this is a really naive claim.
ChesterJohn
reply to post by HanoiLullaby
Dude, man is not an invading organism. You start your premise with a preconceived idea that is flawed at it source.
Man is the responsible party for the earth. Greed of a minority of wealthy control freaks is the problem of war and the current Urban control state ALL nations have converted too.
The invading and controlling nature is SIN and the lack of natural love and respect for one another.
edit on 7-1-2014 by ChesterJohn because: (no reason given)
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by HanoiLullaby
I'll be more interested in having the debate when we aren't deliberately cutting off our own ability to produce food far and above what we need to survive, as is happening now. It'll certainly be more reasonable when we stop polluting and destroying our water sources to actually include the Ocean as what was already a difficult source for desalinization and last resorts becomes too toxic to consider.
The strength of data to physical ability for the support of life is one thing. The artificial and negligent reduction of resources through pure mismanagement and arrogance is quite another. I think it's far more the latter which causes population to be the problem when it, alone, isn't.
In a direct point of example...The US has 300 million people. China has over 1.4 Billion people. 4x's the number. The land mass of the nations is almost the same. That gives some indication, in my opinion, of just how dense it CAN be and still well support itself ..if support is the goal and effort by all involved. Reckless indifference in Western culture seems more the norm than self-support with available options.edit on 6-1-2014 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)
flipflop
reply to post by ChesterJohn
global warming, global cooling, invasion by ebe's, holocaust, apocolypse, fukushima, does it really matter, this world won't just stop unfortunately, it will kill mankind slowly, as it has been poisoned by all of us whether we like that or not. we are all part of the problem on this planet, and now it's poisoned it's not functioning normally and it will dwindle slowly into its decline killing man slowly as it ceases to produce its vegetation, so really it doesnt matter which of the above grabs us any of them will give the same results for mankind.... time to get use to it and face up to what lies ahead for one of the upcoming generations of mankind and all thanks to us and our ancestors
Kali74
AndyMayhew
reply to post by jimmyx
I've just had my first ever frost-free December here in England.
I guess that's global cooling for you
Global Cooling is a hoax orchestrated by the NWO to herd us all into temperate zones so TPTB can use all our oil for their super duper blow smoke up our asses machines, that's the Right Wing Agenda.
Regardless, if we experience massive swings in global climate, I believe we will have an ice age. Modern cities north of Florida will be buried, inundated with snow and ice, eventually glaciers. The costs of infrastructure maintenance and heating would become astronomical, consequently they would fail within a year or two. You wouldn't be able to grow food in the prairies or US heartland either. Why do you think George Bush bought 100,000 acres in Paraguay?
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
Regardless, if we experience massive swings in global climate, I believe we will have an ice age. Modern cities north of Florida will be buried, inundated with snow and ice, eventually glaciers. The costs of infrastructure maintenance and heating would become astronomical, consequently they would fail within a year or two. You wouldn't be able to grow food in the prairies or US heartland either. Why do you think George Bush bought 100,000 acres in Paraguay?
It's just a thought on this...but I have another suggestion for what that world would look like and it wouldn't include astronomical heating costs. Why say that? Well..I think we're already looking at how previous humans adapted and coped with this very thing happening for mass cooling and climate disruption.
Check into the complex and very wide ranging tunnel networks they've found and are continuing to find from antiquity beneath Europe, cross to the western edges of the Middle East and even South America in some places.
I think we're looking at how our species survived it once before, as archeologists collectively scratch their heads and guess at what all that may have been dug and maintained for.
ChesterJohn
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
Regardless, if we experience massive swings in global climate, I believe we will have an ice age. Modern cities north of Florida will be buried, inundated with snow and ice, eventually glaciers. The costs of infrastructure maintenance and heating would become astronomical, consequently they would fail within a year or two. You wouldn't be able to grow food in the prairies or US heartland either. Why do you think George Bush bought 100,000 acres in Paraguay?
It's just a thought on this...but I have another suggestion for what that world would look like and it wouldn't include astronomical heating costs. Why say that? Well..I think we're already looking at how previous humans adapted and coped with this very thing happening for mass cooling and climate disruption.
Check into the complex and very wide ranging tunnel networks they've found and are continuing to find from antiquity beneath Europe, cross to the western edges of the Middle East and even South America in some places.
I think we're looking at how our species survived it once before, as archeologists collectively scratch their heads and guess at what all that may have been dug and maintained for.
No need to worry about that guys seeing that it wont result in that even in the next few hundred years.