reply to post by InverseLookingGlass
Oh, I assure you I don't go by Bible verses, blind guesses or tea leaves for signs. I really meant experts and degreed ones at that. Same as the
Man-Made Warming movement has plenty of. Men like Al Gore made a personal declaration that the Science was known, all but confirmed and a done deal.
Al Gore is no scientist and he made a lousy politician for what he DID do for a living. He should leave science to those who do it for a living. Not
merely speak of it.
I try and focus on those who do it for a living for seeing who says what on such a complex and multi-layered issue. Such as these examples here....
New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism
(Sorry that is linked via Google.. The idiot coders for the Forbes page have so mangled their code, I can't even get a link to work to them without
breaking in-line on every attempt??)
The article is Forbes Magazine and the report it's referencing is Seen Here
and was produced
out of the University of Alabama at Huntsville.
NCDC data shows that the contiguous USA has not warmed in the past decade, summers are cooler, winters are getting colder
Now the source of that one isn't what I'd call above reproach for a Congressional Hearing or something...but the data it's based on sure is. If one
scrolls down, you'll note they're using NOAA charts for the data with the link directly to the NOAA interface anyone can use to pull those same ones
or others for direct comparison and contrast.
You want to know why I really don't listen to media or most of the people who use media for their original sourcing on any of this? I can sum it up
with two headlines with just one quote from each. It makes the perfect picture of why this debate is hopelessly compromised for logical discussion,
often, before it even starts.
Global Warming Hasn't Stopped: It Was the Hottest Decade
Next decade 'may see no warming'
But according to the scientific community, the experts who have decades of training in the field of atmospheric and climactic study, our planet
continues to warm. In fact, we just came through the hottest decade ever recorded.
A new computer model developed by German researchers, reported in the journal Nature, suggests the cooling will counter greenhouse warming.
However, temperatures will again be rising quickly by about 2020, they say.
The first article is September, 2013. The second one was May of 2008. Both make some tall claims and both cite some serious sourcing to back it. You
may notice that the way the dates of the two fall? They contradict each other. If only by a bit.
...these days, we're supposed to believe or pretend (if nothing else) that a few years between reports should reset things and make one irrelevant to
another. They have A LOT of such contradictions to explain before I'll even entertain them for taking the Global Warming argument seriously. The
habit of sweeping them all under the rug of "big oil, big money just lies" is the level of a Kindergartner arguing something which proof sits in
plain view to question.
This kind of contradiction from not just media but from people in science as well, has defined this topic from the moment someone said it was
Man-Made, someone else realize that meant man 'could fix it', and someone stood to make a bank by trying.