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reply to post by AkHolic
(do not be fooled by the line 'it will not be as stealthy as the F-35C' as it (the F-35) has the signature of a non-VLO airframe such as the Rafale from all aspects to anything bar X band radars at head on) (If you doubt this, explain to me why a 'stealth aircraft' would be needing an active jammer developed for it and show me the jammer pod for the F-22 or F-117)
F-22 has an active EW suite as well. In fact, the Barracuda the F-35 will use is derived from it. The B-2 has a much more advanced suite.
RCS-reduction doesn't make you invisible. It simply allows you to close the gap before detection.
Once within detection range, a VLO relies on it's EW-suite in the same manner as any other aircraft (arguably less so, as the return-signal to hide is weaker). Why wouldn't you want an EW-suite on a VLO fighter?
The advantage of the VLO or XLO platform is the ability to engage on your terms while remaining outside the threat-detection bubble. An active EW-suite not only increases your ability to survive within the threat-detection bubble (which is much larger with an aircraft like the Rafale), it also enhances your ability to disengage and reestablish this advantage.
Hanging an abortion off the wing to make the much vaunted 'Stealth Fighter' perform as touted in its clean configuration is NOT progress.
The lower the numbers the closer you get, and again, refer back to my flying abortion comment. Its touted as a 'stealth' aircraft, but in reality it is a single aspect single spectrum lower than an untreated airframe 'stealth' aircraft. The 'Silent Eagle' proves my point as they have numbers down to F-35 levels on head on aspects. The 'Silent Hornet' ditto. The 35 is NOT progress in any shape bar....EODAS.
I do, but not a damn pod off the wing. Day 1 effort and dangling a pod? nice effort. What ever happened to effective and internal? All those fancy presentations of clean F-35s going down town into harms way all on their lonesome (yes, PR is a wonderful world devoid of reality) really do seem to be the thing of nightmares in an airframe that is only slightly better than a '4th generation aircraft' to anything but X band. From the front.
The above is very true, am not going to argue this. However, if you have the turning capability of a F-4 Phantom and the acceleration of a rickshaw laden down with fatties, how do you think getting out of the fight is possible? hell, how do you think choosing where to fight is possible?
My thoughts on this pig suckling abortion of an airframe will not change now, or ever. It was touted much like the WW2 'Wonder Weapons', a 'cure all' from ground attack to air to air.
In reality it is slow (dangerously so), ineffective (I'd not want to see an f-35 try the Gulf War day 1 hour 1 strike missions the F-117s carried out).
Why do I see the F-111 round two here?