posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 08:22 AM
This coupled with the research that some UFO "waves" may have been caused by the testing or operation of secret or lesser known aircraft lead me to
wondering if there were any things in development now that while not exactly "black projects" are little known to the general public.
Thank you for a very interesting thread. I've been collating material relating to secret aircraft causing ufo sightings in the past, so your work on
current/future projects that may cause such sightings is very interesting to me.
Can you expand on what "research" and which particular waves you had in mind when posting the above part of your OP?
I haven't seen any convincing research along those lines.
I'm familiar with various claims along these lines (particularly by Gerald K Haines in his article “A Die-Hard Issue : CIA's Role in the Study of
UFOs, 1947-90” published in "Studies in Intelligence", Issue 1997 Vol. 1, No. 1) but have so far found the evidence for large-scale waves being
caused by sightings of black project aircraft to be rather limited. There is far better evidence of many sightings being caused by seeing normal
aircraft in unusual conditions and/or slightly unusual aircraft (such as advertising aircraft).
You are probably familiar with the article by Gerald Haines, but for the sake of anyone unfamiliar with it, the text is available on
a page on the CIA's website
and includes the following:
In November 1954, CIA had entered into the world of high technology with its U-2 overhead reconnaissance project. Working with Lockheed's Advanced
Development facility in Burbank, California, known as the Skunk Works, and Kelly Johnson, an eminent aeronautical engineer, the Agency by August 1955
was testing a high-altitude experimental aircraft--the U-2. It could fly at 60,000 feet; in the mid-1950s, most commercial airliners flew between
10,000 feet and 20,000 feet. Consequently, once the U-2 started test flights, commercial pilots and air traffic controllers began reporting a large
increase in UFO sightings. (44) (U)
The early U-2s were silver (they were later painted black) and reflected the rays from the sun, especially at sunrise and sunset. They often appeared
as fiery objects to observers below. Air Force BLUE BOOK investigators aware of the secret U-2 flights tried to explain away such sightings by linking
them to natural phenomena such as ice crystals and temperature inversions. By checking with the Agency's U-2 Project Staff in Washington, BLUE BOOK
investigators were able to attribute many UFO sightings to U-2 flights. They were careful, however, not to reveal the true cause of the sighting to
According to later estimates from CIA officials who worked on the U-2 project and the OXCART (SR-71, or Blackbird) project, over half of all UFO
reports from the late 1950s through the 1960s were accounted for by manned reconnaissance flights (namely the U-2) over the United States. (45) This
led the Air Force to make misleading and deceptive statements to the public in order to allay public fears and to protect an extraordinarily sensitive
national security project. While perhaps justified, this deception added fuel to the later conspiracy theories and the coverup controversy of the
1970s. The percentage of what the Air Force considered unexplained UFO sightings fell to 5.9 percent in 1955 and to 4 percent in 1956. (46)
(44) See Gregory W. Pedlow and Donald E. Welzenbach, The Central Intelligence Agency and Overhead Reconnaissance: The U-2 and OXCART Programs,
1954-1974 (Washington, DC: CIA History Staff, 1992), pp. 72-73.
(45) See Pedlow and Welzenbach, Overhead Reconnaissance, pp. 72-73. This also was confirmed in a telephone interview between the author and John
Parongosky, 26 July 1994. Parongosky oversaw the day-to-day affairs of the OXCART program.
(46) See Jacobs, The UFO Controversy, p. 135.
That article, particularly the claim that "over half of all UFO reports from the late 1950s through the 1960s were accounted for by manned
reconnaissance flights (namely the U-2)", is HIGHLY controversial. Anyone following up on this claim may be assisted by the book references I've
collated in a table relating to the article by Haines
. See, in
particular, the article by Bruce Maccabee an article entitled “CIA's UFO Explanation Is Preposterous”, which focuses on the material at footnotes
44 and 45 of Gerald Haines’ article. This article by Bruce Maccabee available online on his website at:
This explanation for many ("over half of all") UFO reports is new in the sense that it has never before been publicized. It was not contained within
documents released by the CIA in December, 1978 after a lawsuit filed under the Freedom of Information and Privacy Act (FOIPA) by Ground Saucer Watch,
a civilian UFO organization which closed in the early 1980's. According to Mr. Haines the U-2 was reported as a UFO because "the early U-2's were
silver (they were later painted black) and reflected the rays of the sun, especially at sunrise and sunset. They often appeared as fiery objects to
observers below. Air Force BLUE BOOK investigators, aware of the secret U-2 flights, tried to explain away such sightings by linking them to natural
phenomena such as ice crystals and temperature inversions. By checking with the Agency's U-2 Project Staff in Washington, BLUE BOOK investigators were
able to attribute many UFO sightings to U-2 flights. They were careful, however, not to reveal the true cause of the sighting to the public."
Project BLUE BOOK was the publicly known Air Force effort to collect UFO sightings and explain, or at least categorize, them as explainable or
unexplainable. Project Blue Book ran from early 1951 through 1969. When it closed Blue Book and its predecessors (Project Sign, 1948, and Project
Grudge, 1949-1951) had collected about 13,000 sightings, of which about 700 were left unexplained.
The claim that the U-2 caused "over half of all UFO reports from the late 1950's through the 1960's" is, to put it gently, preposterous. The U-2, with
its 80 ft long by 6 ft wide (front to back) wingspan flew at 60-70,000 feet and at that altitude was essentially invisible during the day.
It created no contrail because of the lack of moisture at that altitude. It was, after all, intended to be invisible! During the hour before sunrise
and the hour following sunset it would be possible for an unpainted aircraft to reflect the sun enough to be visible, perhaps with a reddish glow
resulting from the reddening of sunlight (caused by passage of the sunlight through the atmosphere, which acts like a filter that removes blue and
green relative to red). High altitude balloons (e.g., Project Skyhook) did cause some UFO reports during these times of day and were so identified by
the Air Force and civilian investigators. However, only a small fraction of sightings occur during these times. The largest fraction of sightings is
at night when the U-2 can't be seen and the next largest fraction is during the daytime.
I'm currently looking into a related few issues so would welcome any clarification you can give about your above reference to relevant "research" on
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