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Why is there no real proof of Jesus existing outside of biblical references?

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posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 09:43 PM

originally posted by: Seede

It all depends upon what you regard as solid proof. There are many other historians besides Josephus. Most all must be dug from the dusty old books of rejected authors simply because history belongs to those who wish to use it for their own purpose. Even modern America has re written history to suit their agenda and have re educated their children to believe many things that other, older nations do not accept as fact. So actually it all is a matter of who you want to believe.

Have you looked at the historical literature of Joseph of Arimathea and the Isle of Avalon? British and Roman history are both intermixed with fantastic tradition as well as written history. In that mix you can find that Joseph of Arimathea (Jesus' uncle) was a most important player in the history of Jesus and not even mentioned by most religious sources. Uncle Joe was a very rich and influential man in both Jewish and Roman history and can bring much light to his nephew Jesus. He not only lost his position of power and wealth shortly after the death of Jesus but became a central figure of evangelizing Britain. Few people have even realized this.

By Robert Mock
January 2009
"In Judea, when Joseph of Arimathea was a member of the Roman Provincial Council under the rule of Pontius Pilate, so he was protected with the power of the governor’s office of the Roman Empire in Judea. Joseph and Pilate had one other potential private alliance with each other. Joseph had a long standing relationship with the powerful and elite of the royal family dynasty of the Silurians in southern Wales on the island of Britannia."

From here you can dig into the dusty old history books of ancient Roman and Silurians history and it would amaze you to learn that Jesus is well documented by many other sources other than the biblical manuscripts which also number well over 5,000. Now you will not find this in seminaries or bible schools or in university history classes simply because it does not suite their doctrines or academia. If you are an interested avid seeker of the unusual and unaccepted methods of learning then all of this is out there in the old forgotten books of the ancients. It is a life time of seeking truth as well as entertaining the mind with unlimited knowledge.

If my advice is not too forward I would recommend you look at "" You will be amazed at the wealth of information and leads you can get from these writings. Wishing you the best.

There are no credible historical references to Jesus.
Nicholas Carter concludes in The Christ Myth: "No sculptures, no drawings, no markings in stone, nothing written in his own hand; and no letters, no commentaries, indeed no authentic documents written by his Jewish and Gentile contemporaries, Justice of Tiberius, Philo, Josephus, Seneca, Petronius Arbiter, Pliny the Elder, et al., to lend credence to his historicity."

For example in the Pliny letter "Christiani" were considered to be followers of the Greco-Egyptian god Serapis and that the name "Christ" was common to all the gods and kings.

All that I have heard of have been debunked but even if there was something what would that mean? Ancient writers could be used to confirm many Pagan gods. It wouldn't lend credibility anyways.

posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:01 AM
a reply to: joelr

Note to myself to reply regarding Pliny and his problems with Christians, tomorrow..

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