posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 10:41 PM
reply to post by reject
The word "debunker" is not magical. It doesn't just make the facts go away. I am not "debunking" anything.
The facts of early Christian symbolism are well-known. The scholarship is considerable.
The "cross" was not used in the first century. Fish, anchors, a bit later the chi-rho ... but not crosses.
You're merely trying to muddy the water here. The facts are clear.
The first century ossuaries may be early Christian, but the scratches on the outside don't prove it.
Just because it was "universally acknowledged" and "extensively adopted" at later dates doesn't mean it was not used by earlier 1st
century Christians when they were just starting out and they were still a persecuted few (as evidenced by archaeology), does it?
You're merely playing "what if" games here. You're making an assumption based on your belief. Do you have any physical evidence, perhaps the
archeology you mention, that demonstrates the use of the Cross as a Christian symbol before the end of the 2nd century.
If not, you can always just state that you "believe it to be true," that your "heart tells you it is," instead of pretending that there's
physical evidence for baseless claims.
edit on 19Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:40:38 -060014p072014266 by Gryphon66 because: Yeah.
Well your wrong the 1st century christians adopted the cross as a symbol of their religion in the first century archeologists have discovered multiple
tombs. It was originally a sign christians used because of their persecution. But even in the second century you see early christian writings using
the cross as a symbol of christ. For example Epistle of Barnabas, xi.-xii in chapter xi it specifically mentions the use of the cross with baptisms as
a symbol for christ. In fact early Christian had to defend themselves, as early as the second century, against the charge of being worshipers of the
cross, as may be learned from Tertullian, "Apologia," xii., xvii. Now its obvious some early christians used the cross and it was known to them,
However it wasn't called the crucifix until the fifth century this is what your source is referring to.