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reply to post by dragonridr
You're absolutely correct. I believe that he got into a pretty bitter argument with Peter, and finally Peter had to admit that Paul was correct. I almost pointed this out in the post above, as a matter of fact, because it goes to further point out that the Apostles didn't trust Paul, and so anything he did to undermine Christianity would have been screamed to the highest heavens by the apostles.
The fact that Irenious, who was a second generation disciple of John, was quoting from Paul's works, says that those early patriarchs must have accepted Paul’s writings as part of the early cannon.
Why is there no real proof of Jesus existing outside of biblical references?
Melisa: But surely no one would choose that if they knew you really existed?
Jesus: Not so, nobody goes into hell blindfolded. In one way or another, I've revealed myself to everyone.
Melisa: But if they could just see you...
Jesus: Not even that would be enough. Look at satan, he stood before me in the very throne room of God. But he thought the beauty and the power bestowed was somehow earned. Gave himself over to pride. Scratch any sin and just below the surface you'll find pride... Source
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
You realize that they would have had to snag all the copies that existed, and stopped all the “word of mouth” christian teaching to do what you claim, right? And they would have had to have the foresight to do this at least 200 years before the existence of the Holy Roman Empire, Roman Catholic Church, or even Constantine. Its a good conspiracy, but I don't believe that it could have realistically happened that way. Again, if they did have that kind of total control, why didn't they rewrite it to their liking, and left themselves open to attack for violating it later?
Yet Luther's teachings and doctrine still survive to this day. Nothing of truth in this world survives for very long, TPTB have too many connections and too much power for that to be so.
What connects Iranaeus to John the apostle? Church tradition alone. If you were attempting to subvert and divert a movement, why wouldn't you link your minions to those who walked with Jesus?
Back to the OP original question:
Frankly, there is no proof that 99% of the people of that era existed at all. Their names and individual histories are erased by time, as will be yours eventually.
However, the existence of Jesus is one of the most proven facts written in history. He is no more a legend than Buddha, Mohammed, or Julius Caesar. As a matter of fact, we have proven manuscript evidence of Jesus written during the lifetimes of the original Apostles. This type of incredible evidence does not exist for anyone or anything else in antiquity.
Proof DOES in fact exist...
I say that because I have PERSONALLY seen it.
This type of incredible evidence does not exist for anyone or anything else in antiquity.