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The 12/21/2012 red herring.

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posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 10:33 AM

For those who share a secular or non-biblical perspective, I welcome you to read and critique this data so long as you keep an open mind and open heart through the duration of this discussion.

For my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, use 1 John 1:9 to privately cite your know sins to the Father so that the Holy Spirit may guide you through this information and away from any error that I may have spread on my part.

This thread pertains to the truth as I have discovered about the "Mayan Calendar".

In this post I will make a case for:

1.) The Biblical origins of the "Mayan (5250 year) Calendar",which I call the "Lamechian Countdown"; including its true start date and a crash course explanation of the Hebrew and Greek syllable metering in the Bible that reveals this information.

2.) The tri-phased end dates of the Mayan Calendar.

3.) Pope Gregory's consolidation of the; Mayan Calendar, Babylonian-Rabbinical Luni-solar Calendar, and the TRUE Biblical Solar Calendar in his modern day Gregorian calendar.

4). How the mainstream media has distorted our understanding of this vital information to keep us in the dark.

5). How the "Illuminati-Zionists" have used this calendar to schedule key events including the psuedo-fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy to make advances in their agenda.

6). How the true ending of this calendar will begin the true fulfillment of the remaining Old Testament prophecies regarding the fate of Israel, the New World Order conspirators, and the rest of the world.

7). Most importantly, what you can do about it now.

I am posting all of this info from my phone as my computer is temporarily out of commission, so please be patient and try to ignore any typographical errors that may have slipped passed me.

Part 1: The Lamechian Countdown and The Hebrew/Greek Meter.

Let us begin with the foundation of my research; the Hebrew and Greek syllable metering of the original Old and New Testament scriptures.

Just like any modern day song, rhyme, rapp, or poem, there are portions of the original Biblical scriptures that show syllable metering. These portions of texts are called time poems. Many of them are actual prophecies, some are just datelines for establishing a publishing date relative to a consistant timeline. This timeline is reconstructed by finding syllable metering patters in the relavent texts that are most often divisible by 7, 12, 50, 40, and 10. While these are not the only multipes used, they are consistently recurring and fundamental.

By examining this numerical pattern in context with the text in which it is found, the big picture breaks human history down into blocks of 490+70+490 years or 1050 year Arks of time that carry humans through history.

According to the meter, year one started with the Fall of Adam. Therefore, that places 2013 AD, 6121 years after the Fall of Adam, or 6121 AF. In God's Messianic plan, human history and the Angelic Conflict surrounding it was only supposed to last 5250 years, but as we can see in the Bible, mankind has taken many deviations from God's plan. The most obvious deviation and delay to the Messianic plan was Israel's rejection of Jesus and Savior and King. This resulted in the Church Age which bridges the gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th week. I will not expand on the subject of dispensationalism at this point, I am simply illustrating how God's plan actively interfaces with humanity's historical freewill decisions.

With the above in mind, it is my belief that the initiation of the 5250 year countdown has been delayed until the birth of Lamech in 874 AF, who fathered Noah and died at the age of 777 years. It was when Noah was born that Lamech said " This one will give us rest from our work and from the toil of our hands arising from the ground which the LORD has cursed.” I believe this Messianic utterance confirms that the 5250 year countdown did indeed begin with Lamech in the year 874 AF or 3233 BC rather than the popular 3114 BC date. In a later post, I will illustrate how this 5250 year countdown doesnt end with 12/21/2012, but actually comes to its complete ending on 9/16/2016 or the Feast of Trumpets of the year 6124 AF according to God's solar calendar.

That is all for now. I will post the next section shortly. Until then, I urge you to utilize this spare time to further examine the Hebrew and Greek meter at There you will find a comprehensive archive of information on the subject if you use the term "hebrew greek meter" in the brainout search engine. You will not find any mention of the Mayan Calendar nor the Lamechian Countdown there.

posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 10:42 AM
reply to post by BELIEVERpriest

I guess this would all really only come down to whether or not anyone who reads this actually believes in the bible and what it says. Since the bible was not around when the Mayans were, and the Mayan long count has nothing to do with when you think the bible interprets time to have begun, then I can't really see how you are making a connection here. The Mayans were around long before the bible was written so if anything, the bible took stories from the Mayan culture, not the other way around.

posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:05 AM

Vasa Croe

I guess this would all really only come down to whether or not anyone who reads this actually believes in the bible and what it says.

It would also come down to whether anyone who reads this actually believes in the calendar and what it says.

posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:14 AM
reply to post by Mon1k3r

Very true.

posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:14 AM

Just for whatever reason (i do not know); I googled the date; 9-16-16


a. A fall into obscurity or disuse; a decline: "A composer . . . often goes into eclipse after his death and never regains popularity" (Time).
b. A disgraceful or humiliating end; a downfall: Revelations of wrongdoing helped bring about the eclipse of the governor's career.

revelations of wrongdoing

February 2, 2012
This afternoon the AP revealed: “The New York Police Department recommended increasing surveillance of thousands of Shiite Muslims and their mosques, based solely on their religion, as a way to sweep the Northeast for signs of Iranian terrorists, according to interviews and a newly obtained secret police document. …
“The secret document stands in contrast to statements by Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who said the NYPD never considers religion in its policing. [Police Commissioner Raymond] Kelly has said police go only where investigative leads take them, but the document described no leads to justify expanded surveillance at Shiite mosques.”

edit on (12/30/1313 by loveguy because: itema non grata

posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:44 AM
The calendar to which I refer being the current, Gregorian calendar. There is a pretty good chance it is not about to be 2014. We might be living in the late 1800s right now.

posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 12:59 PM
reply to post by Vasa Croe

I understand your skepticism. As stated, I will show how Pope Gregory designed his calendar to consolidate the Mayan, Talmudic, and Biblical CalendarS. I wont spoil the suprise now, but the chances of these these three calendar systems aligning with 12/21/12 and 9/16/16 on the Gregorian calendar is not mere coincidence of blind luck.

I dont have time to start my next section yet as it requires many calculation, but I will say this; both 12/21/12 and 9/16/16 are relavent dates in the Mayan Calendar, with a space of 1,365 days between the two dates. Check out Num 3:50 in the Bible for info on 1,365.

The media is was not 100% wrong about 12/21/12, they're just withholding a great deal of info.

Here is an appetizer for you: 13 katuns of 5.25 day is 13x20x5.25=1365 days. Ask yourself why Mayan's had 360 days per year. What event may have motivated the observance of 5 days of unluckiness.

So there are two competing conclusions.

The Bible is a mash of many cultural mythologies.


All cultures came from one origin and distorted the original truth that has been mathematically preserved in the metered scriptures that is presently translated into the Bible.

I support the second conclusion.

posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 01:18 PM
1000's of people die every day in many varied ways, but I guess mass casualty makes for the best doom porn of all, it's like the centerfold people just can't wait to unfold isn't it? Just like one of the many thousands that will die today and tomorrow and the next... the end for you will come, so why be so concerned about what form your number will be delivered?

Do you seriously live a life worth stressing out over how and when it all will end? In my 40 odd years I've done and seen about all I really need too 10's if not 100's of times. Sure there's more left to see and do, so still being alive I will contnue to see and do, but if it all ended for me, even today or in the next 10 minutes... that would be ok. I hope those that are honestly stressed and worried over such things can aquire such peace, my advice? Just have the wisdom to let go of all you cannot control, you'll be much happier.

posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:40 PM
reply to post by BELIEVERpriest

Part 2: The Tri-phased End Dates of the Mayan Calendar.

In the previous part, I touched upon the Hebrew/Greek meter, and identified the years 874 AF and 6124 AF as the initiation and final termination of the 5250 year Lamechian countdown. Now I will shed light on 12/21/2012 and what the date really meant.

The original text of the Bible discloses a calendar consisting of 12 months of 30 days. This is derived from the flood account in Gen 7, and the 1260 days of the Book of Revelation. This 360 day calendar starts and ends on the vernal equinox. Most of the references to the New Moon as the beginning of the month is a mistranslation. Rosh Kodesh simply means head of the month, not building of the moon. Observance of the New Moon as Rosh Kodesh did not occur in Israel until the Babylonians enslaved them. The lunisolar calendar that most Jews observe today is only 354 to 355 days long. This incongruency with the solar year requires that a 13th intercalary month must be added every 2 or 3 years to keep the Holy Days in season. The bible never makes any mention of a 13th month. Infact the bible mentions David appointing 2 generals to over see the Hebrew military for each month...totalling to 24 generals for 12 months, never 26 for 13 months.

So, why does the Bible provide a 360 day calendar when our year is 365.25 days long? Well, I believe that prior to the Great Flood, earth only had a 360 day orbital period around the Sun. Perhaps the Moon had a 30 day month rather than the present 29.5 day month. If you take an average of the Solar and Lunar year, the result is a 360 day year. The time between the Lunar and Solar year is 10.5 days; the Moon being 5.25 days too fast and the Sun being 5.25 days to slow. I believe this sudden change that accompanied the Great Flood occurred in the year 1656 AF on the Feast of Trumpets (roughly 9/16, or more properly the 1st day of the 7th month). The year 1656 AF is widely accepted by Jews as the year of the Great Flood, and is identified as so by the Hebrew meter. So, God instructed the Jews to observe the solar circuit of the vernal equinox or tekuphah of 360+5.25 days rather than a floating lunisolar calendar.

So, how does this pertain to 12/21/2012, you ask? Well the MSM (mainstream media) identifies the Mayan Calendar as being 5200 or 5125 years long. How can both values be accurate? If 5200 years of 360 days is counted against a 365.25 day year, the end result is about 5125 years of 365.25 days. By fixating on the date 12/21/12, the MSM back counted 5125 years to the proposed start date of 8/11/3114 BC. This is fallacy in my opinion. The only part of the MSM's assertions that I do agree with is that 12/21/12 was an important date to the Mayans. It was the final intercalary bench mark, not the end. The only shred of evidence to staple down 12/21/12 as a benchmark is Pope Gregory's synchronization with 12/21/12, and the Illuminati's fixation with the last 13 Katuns on the back of the US $1 Federal Reserve Note.

If you understand that the 5200 Mayan cycle is really part of the 5250 year Lamechian countdown of 105 (or 49+7+49) Jubilees, then all you have to do is count back 5250 Solar circuits (whether 360 or 365.25 days) from 2016 or 6124 AF to arrive at Lamech's birth in 874 AF.

Why count back from 2016 rather than 2012? Because 13 Katuns of 20 years of 360 day years terminated on 12/21/12. But what about the extra 5.25 days from each of those years. One katun is 20 years, so 13x20x5.25=1365 days (see Num 3:50 in the Bible). Therefore, 1365 days added to 12/21/12 terminates on 9/16/2016.

For the above reasons, I believe that the Mayans observed a 2100 day intercalary period at the end of each 144,000 day baktun (a baktun is 400 years of 360 days). The numbers 2100 and 1365 are multiples of 105 (49+7+49 is a biblical pattern). Notice how both 144,000 and 2100 are based on Biblical numbers, and they add together to make 400 years of 365.25 days.

So, if we use the MSM's formula of 5250 years of 360 days back to back, we would arrive at the end date of 10/22/1948 starting from Lamech's birth. This is a far cry from 2012 and 2016. This is why I think the media has used an intercalary formula factoring in all those ignored days, then covered their tracks by back counting 5125 years of 365.25 days from 2012 rather than 5250 Solar circuits from 2016. They are using a double standard to cook the books.

It is widely understood that the Mayans had a multi-layered calendar of 260 day tzolkin + 100 days to complete the civil year + 5.25 days of shame to complete the solar year. Therefore, it stands to reason that 10/22/48 was when the cycle would have ended had the flood never happened, 12/21/12 was the final intercalary benchmark, and 9/16/2016 is the termination of the adjusted Lamechian cycle in its finality.

I would like the skeptics and critics to honestly consider this information. Many will say that there is no evidence of intercalary periods in the Mayan civilization. I will quickly point out that most of their records have been destroyed. Is it coinsidence that these numbers perfectly dovetail with the bible? I think not.

Coming attractions will illustrate how Pope Gregory had extensive knowledge of this Meso-American counting system, and a vested interest in creating a new eutopian nation based on this knowledge...Ameruka the Land of the Feathered Serpent.

I will try to write more tomorrow, but I may not have time. Therefore, I may have to wait til next year. Lol. Happy New Year everyone.

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 08:43 AM
Need I remind everyone, yeah I guess I do, that it is now Twenty Fourteen (or 14 if you're like me, I still loved being able to say it was aught nine)

Twenty Twelve, while eventful did not end the world, neither did 2013, and now in 2014 we shall still survive as miserable and cranky as we are..

So there...... Please there's enough doom porn can we let the failure of the whole 2012 thing go already?

posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 11:15 AM
reply to post by BELIEVERpriest

Part 3: The Gregorian Consolidation

Most know the story of the Gregorian calendar. I find it a bit boring to be honest. Most of the west operated on the Julian calendar, which was falling behind due to an intercalary error, so Pope Gregory came along and fixed it by moving it back 11 days. Every 4 years, we experience a leap year (except on years of interger multiples of 100 that are not divisible by 400). Many consider Gregory's actions in 1582 AD, as an act of public service by instituting a world unifying calendar, but could there be some deeper motive behind this "New World Calendar".

In passing, I have mentioned several key calendars relavent to this analysis: the true Biblical Solar calendar, the Babylonian Luni-solar calendar (adopted by the apostate Rabbis of Israel), the Mayan Zolkin and the Mayan long count calendars. If you account for the possibility that the Earth once had a 360 day solar year, then the above mentioned calendars begin to confirm the story of the Great Flood. For example, the Babylonian Luni-solar calendar takes an average of the Lunar year and Solar year in an atempt to maintain the Antediluvian 360 day calendar. On the other hand, the Mayan 260 day Zolkin year and the 360 day civil year probably preserves an ancient record of how Venus may have had a 260 day orbit while Earth had the 360 day orbit.

See this link for support:

Rather than following an antiquated system, the Biblical calendar simply re-adjust every year by restarting evey vernal equinox. No need for leap years, intercalary months or calendar layering.

So, how does this pertain to the Gregorian calendar? Well, if my post is nothing but DOOM PORN as many or you abruptly scoff, then we wouldnt expect to find any pattern. But, on the contrary, a pattern does exist. This is a pattern of consolidation.

First we shall take notice of the popular Mayan end date of 12/21/12. This day just so happens to be the 355th day of the Gregorian year, but only on leap years. Remeber, that 355 is the average length of the Lunar year. Then, on 9/16/2016, which is the Mayan end date that I postulated, the Gregorian calendar aligns again on the 260th day with the Biblical Feast of Trumpets. Again, this alignment only occurs on leap years. So, we have a two fold alignment with the 355 day year lunar year, and the 260 day Tzolkin year.

Why would the Pope of socalled Christendom desire to consolidate these ancient calendars? Coming attractions will attempt to show that Pope Gregory infact had a hand in laying the prepatory work for the establishment of New Atlantis aka America, and that this new nation would facilitate the transition into the New World Order.

posted on Feb, 15 2014 @ 09:07 AM
Here's hoping you finish before the prophecy is fulfilled! Very interested in this Nation of the Feathered Serpent, Ameruka. And all along i thought it was named to glorify a simple map maker who's name is only somewhat similar... Ameriggo Vespuccio or something. Yours sounds a lot closer to America so I'd love to hear how you came up with that spelling and of course the rest of the story.
edit on 2/15/2014 by 3n19m470 because: realized misspelled Ameruka

posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 08:14 AM
I tried to understand the subject.
But my common sense says this - the world does not end when the calendar did.
Calendar is human or alien assisted humans to define time reference for our planet scope only. It doesnt work in Mars.
I dont see much important of calendar calculation in term of planetary event.
What are you searching for pretty much summed up as - the correct date. so, if found, whats next ?

Am I correct ?

posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 09:01 AM
reply to post by NullVoid

Im getting around to finishing my research on the topic. There is a lot more weighing on the issue than the calendar itself. The 5250 year count only a small measure of an on going war between the angels.

posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 09:07 AM

Ameruka the Land of the Feathered Serpent.

Small correction for ya

Ameruka the Land of Government with Fork tongue.

posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 09:40 AM
reply to post by BELIEVERpriest

You know what?

This actually lines up with the timing of the close of the present age.

I don't know if it is true, but the timing cannot be dismissed. If Pentecost 2016 is the final day of mankind's self rule (Armageddon) and the Kingdom of God arrives at that time, then the first day of the following year (beginning of the millennial reign) would be Trumpets 2016 as you hypothesized. You would have nailed this connection and perfectly explained the process.

Excellent research regardless of the accuracy of the claim, you put in a ton of work here. Thanks

God Bless,

edit on 26-2-2014 by ElohimJD because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 11:00 AM
reply to post by ElohimJD

I never used to believe in modern day prophets, but check out the visions of Iris Nasreen. Her visions glorify Christ and mathematically follows the pattern I found. I learned of her visions well after discovering these calculations.

I think the end is really coming this time...and a new beginning.

These are Iris Nasreen's visions:

posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 01:11 PM

check out the visions of Iris Nasreen.

She's trying to sell a book on the supposed 'visions'.
And no one knows when Jesus will return .. not even Jesus.
Those are HIS words. So trying to date these things is silly - IMHO.

posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 02:55 PM
reply to post by BELIEVERpriest

So, you're basically giving some credence to the idea of the Tower of Babel story? Not that it is literally true, but the premise that all men were once a shared language and culture until God split them up for daring to think they could challenge Him. This would help explain how the knowledge you are attempting to tie back together is scattered across the world and its cultures.

posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 02:58 PM
reply to post by BigBrotherDarkness

Who said we were stressing about it? I'm like you. If it ends for me, it ends. There are no guarantees for any of us whether the world ends or we do. My only worry is for my loved ones.

I find these sorts of topics fascinating. My favorite books to read are the ones where the author successfully uses prophecy as an element.

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