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I say these things, because up until now, i've been rather civilized and accommodating, but from here on in, if i see anyone trying to intentionally distort the facts or to in any way mislead the public (readership) with knowledge and awareness that that's what they are doing, over an issue of this importance and significance, then i'm going to nail them to wall.
Believe what you like and hold whatever opinion you like, but the one thing you cannot do is distort the facts or willfully and intentionally seek to mislead others because of an agenda of some sort.
Please note also that we've not even hardly begun to address the issue of flight control and piloting skill where it is a known FACT that at higher speeds, particularly in terms of flying heavy aircraft, that it becomes increasingly difficult to pilot and fly the plane, in regards to controls and control surfaces, even by many orders of magnitude at ever-increasing speed, so it would be totally deceptive to try to make it seem like a piece of cake for these "pilots", who'd never flown a heavy aircraft in their lives.
As I mentioned on Art's show last March it would have been a simple matter to train a non-pilot to:
Once in air and having taken over the cockpit to (1) reach up on the overhead panel and pull the ATC transponder circuit breaker (2) sit in the left seat and buckle up) (3) disconnect the autopilot (4) tune in the JFK VOR (5) turn the airplane towards New York (6) start a descent (7) when established on the heading and within 20 miles tune in the Colts Neck VOR and follow it (8) arrive in an arcing turn towards the north over Colts Neck VOR at 1000 feet (9) Visually pick up the first of maybe 4 major check points that would lead directly to the WTC (10) establish visual contact with the WTC (11) descend to 600 feet (12) when established on course to WTC and level at 600 feet put throttles full forward (aircraft hit at 605 mph according to last primary radar hit)(12) over last checkpoint, approximately 2 miles and approximately 12 seconds from impact travelling at 605 mph (aircraft is travelling 1 mile every 6 seconds) turn aircraft to 90 degrees right bank (no course change will occur because of speed) so that impact of place will cause the most damage to the most number of floors. Neither the pilot nor anybody in the airplane ever felt the slightest discomfort as there would not been enough time for any kind for sensation or pain to travel to the brain.
is thoroughly detailed about the rare closure of those towers over the weekend.
I consider Devvy Kidd to be one of the foremost columnists on most conspiracy theories.
Here are a number of links to her columns on the subject.
This is her latest comment.
9/11 Mysteries: Demolitions
Even if you don't agree with Michael Ruppert about peak oil, which I don't, his book, "Crossing the Rubicon"..
The Honey Pot
"A honey pot, in intelligence jargon, is a tempting source of information or 'dangle' that is set out to lure intended victims into a trap. Ultimately the honey pot is violently and maliciously discredited so as to destroy the credibility of anything stuck to it by association” – Michael Ruppert, "Crossing the Rubicon," p. 184
I don't need convincing, I understand the laws of physics and gravity!!!
reply to post by GenRadek
With all due respect, i don't get the impression that you've really paid close attention to the OP, it's fundamental argument or the content of the thread, but, having just popped in after a long hiatus, and welcome back btw, you of all people certainly deserve the benefit of the doubt, so i do invite you to explore the OP and the content of the thread to really come right up to speed so to speak no pun intended.
You yourself might want to look into it (China Air 006) further though, particularly as it relates to these claims about exceeding mach, not just once, but twice. You sure that's not just an internet rumor of some kind? Trust me, you haven't done your research. I mean no disrespect however when i say that. Honestly (and playfully).
"If Mmo = M.82 (that's an airplane limit and cannot be intentionally exceeded) then how can the airplane go to Mmo+M.07 if the sidestick is held full forward and stabilize at between Mmo and Mmo+M.04? Is there more than one exceedance speed? I asked that question many times and never got an answer."
The manufacturer's response (abbreviated):
"Flying at Vmo/Mmo is not forbidden [and] is possible with sidestick in neutral and no forces applied on the stick.
"Flying at a speed higher than Vmo/Mmo means flying into the peripheral flight envelope; although it is not operationally authorized to fly deliberately outside the normal flight envelope, it is not unsafe (in isolation) and it may happen (strong head gust during descent at Vmo/Mmo, or engines commanded at full power in level flight and pilot momentarily not in monitor/control of the speed/trajectory). [In such cases] the high speed protection will be activated (threshold is Vmo/Mmo plus a margin less a phase advance) if the sidestick is left in neutral, the protection will command a nose-up load factor until the speed is back below Vmo/Mmo ... But if, for whatever reason, the pilot wants to hold a speed higher than Vmo/Mmo, he can by maintaining steady nose down sidestick order. He will be warned by the permanent and unusual forces to be applied to the sidestick (in addition to the oral overspeed warning); at max, for instance, it may be flying steadily at Vmo+16 knots with full nose down sidestick deflection.
"The high speed protection is tuned in a way that guarantees that any reasonable excursion into the peripheral flight envelope ... will contain the speed below VD/MD [VD is design diving speed. MD is maximum diving speed]. For instance ... in the case when the aircraft would perform a dive with a pitch attitude of minus fifteen degrees, go through Vmo/Mmo at this pitch attitude, with no pilot recovery action greater than 1.5g and occurring only after reaching the threshold of overspeed warning. This is also checked against the most severe gusts and windshears that would be encountered while flying at Vmo/Mmo."
reply to post by seasoul
However, if it "the plane" was not and could not possibly have been the originating flight 175, which flipped it's transponder beacon twice in a minute prior to "it's" turn and descending dive and targeting acquisition of the south tower, then no other hypothesis can be made nor conclusion drawn, than that it was a swapped-in, highly MODIFIED, remotely piloted aircraft, as a retrofitted, military grade variant, of the Boeing 767-222 (or 767-300 as the case may be, as touched upon earlier in the thread).