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White House says ObamaCare sign-ups passed 1 million mark

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posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 10:46 AM
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White House says ObamaCare sign-ups passed 1 million mark

Finally we see some genuine evidence that at least 1 million out of 50 million uninsured have attempted to get insurance.

Let's hope this miracle 1 million doesn't turn into a negative number considering the 5 or 10 million cancellations effective Jan 1st.

And I would have higher hopes of at least a few dozen more have signed up on the State exchanges.


 




It will take time for the real data on the sign-ups to be made public...

i would say that both the Fed & State Exchanges are woefully behind in the number of people signing up & getting forcibly enrolled...

my guess is that 80% of the required people are not signed up to enroll & are deciding on paying the collection agency thugs at the IRS that $95 or whatever minimum there is--- for the first year at least...


heck, the vast majority cannot afford this legal extortion money, so they are waiting to see if the Congress repeals the ACA or severely curtails the 0bamacare demands for forced abortion & contraception clauses in the ACA



next... many people, especially with the downsizing of food-stamps and the culling of millions from the unemployment check rolls.... they are reassessing their ability to go on State Medicaid (which ain't free as one might think),,, the State Medicaid can & will attach your possessions or Wills for the monies they spent on your healthcare while you were still alive & on Medicaid for the poor




the millions that signed up are most likely the older people, like from 40-64 years old that have some little nest eggs or mortgage free homes... and don't want the feds intruding into their business too much, so they quietly opt for the cheap health plans voluntarily..... but the younger folks that don't have a job or a nest egg or even much of a bright future are not signing up for those sky high policies

NO... instead they are stepping aside, giving up any tax refund they might have coming, because the refund will be confiscated for trying to elude the health police in the 1st place...

And, because the younger policy payers are not enrolling the whole socialist health care scheme falls apart because the youth payments are non-existent which would have offset the low policy payment rates for the 40-64 year olds who are enrolled


the whole ACA scheme was never thought out correctly... or else was put-in-place with an eye towards a tyranny system of enforcement, to make all people (not otherwise Exempted) to pay dearly for a big-brother Health Master System

=0bamacare is no health care program but rather a health-master system , where the ACA has Mastery over your health & well being...
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posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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I think ACA/ObamaCare was thought out. They may not have been expecting so much resistance from informed citizens. After all the ACA is very similar to the plan Republicans countered HillaryCare with back in the 90's. The opposition from the right is nothing but a facade.

To me ACA is nothing but a bailout/gift to insurance companies, they do spend an insane amount lobbying and for now it has paid off. The 4/3 Supreme Court ruling(which I predicted!) may be phoney too, they want to make those who oppose feel like there is opposition to in in DC, much like the Republicans pretending like they do not like it.

Now we are now forced to buy a service from private companies and on top of that Big Brother will have access to all sorts of private medical information that used to be protected under the HIPPA act. This could have very scary repercussions.



posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:12 AM
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WOW!!! Almost 1/3 of 1% of the country signed up for it. That would mean even the homeless didn't want it. I wonder if they subtracted the 144k that turned out to be fake sign ups in November from that number.

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posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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Is not going to happen to save the mid term election for the Democratic party, interestingly enough the link only talks about one million signing in but it doesn't brake it into how many actually have enrolled with any individual health care insurance and how many of the 1 million are healthcare exchange or Medicaid only enrollees.

The present administration is been pushed by the base democratic party leaders to do some damage control that could cost them seats in mid term elections, due to ACA failure.

So expect for the next few months vague and false numbers to make ACA looks like is working in the political propaganda.



posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 11:45 AM
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I think ACA/ObamaCare was thought out. They may not have been expecting so much resistance from informed citizens. After all the ACA is very similar to the plan Republicans countered HillaryCare with back in the 90's. The opposition from the right is nothing but a facade.

To me ACA is nothing but a bailout/gift to insurance companies, they do spend an insane amount lobbying and for now it has paid off. The 4/3 Supreme Court ruling(which I predicted!) may be phoney too, they want to make those who oppose feel like there is opposition to in in DC, much like the Republicans pretending like they do not like it.

Now we are now forced to buy a service from private companies and on top of that Big Brother will have access to all sorts of private medical information that used to be protected under the HIPPA act. This could have very scary repercussions.


There is a war in the Republican Party between the establishment and the TEA. The TEA aren't so different from Occupy except they got off their butts and have a strategy to actually try to effect some change somehow. Whether or not it will work ...? Only time will tell. Occupy just sat on their thumbs and rumble about a socialist takeover which means more of the same - more government in our lives screwing us over and telling us what to do, when to do it and how.

The Establishment doesn't want to get rid of Obamacare. They'll take the "fix" it route because when it doesn't work, they think they can run against it. They also want Amnesty because they think they can replace their currently revolting base with much more compliant and big government dependent voters.

The TEA half do want to bring down the business as usual mode of it all. That they get so much flak should tell you they're still on target.



posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 12:25 PM
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At lest One Dem is playing the Blame Game again.
As if any one didn't think they would, It has to be, The Republican's Fault!
Yes, You Mean, Nasty Republican's have American's Believing, Obamacare was Repealed and No News Agencies
reported it or Screamed How the GOP was Killing Millions by Repealing Their Dear Leaders Obamacare.
So, according to this Respected Dem, the low numbers of enrollment's at ACA is not the problem of a Poorly Run Organization and Higher Premiums or the U S Government Telling YOU, what YOU Had To Do,,, It's the GOP's Fault!
So, we have another Elected Smart Dem like the last one that believed Guam would Flip Over because of to many Military personal based there.
Democrat Congressman thinks Guam could flip over



The lower-than-hoped-for enrollment numbers on the federal exchanges are due to Republican efforts to repeal Obamacare, Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D., D.C.) argued on Monday. Norton blamed a “negative propaganda campaign” by Republicans that confused Americans into thinking that the law was no longer in effect.

“There are millions of people out there who think it was repealed, so there was no way to break through that very easily,” she told MSNBC. Norton also pointed out that the “debacle of a website” made matters worse because it “seemed to confirm that [the law] must have been repealed, or should have been repealed.”

Peole think law is repealed

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posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 12:55 PM
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jrod
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I think ACA/ObamaCare was thought out. They may not have been expecting so much resistance from informed citizens. After all the ACA is very similar to the plan Republicans countered HillaryCare with back in the 90's. The opposition from the right is nothing but a facade.




the insurance industry thought out what they wanted...
0bama piled on all the phoney baloney leftist-liberal health issues he wanted the populace to live under


but as far as doing a business model or a study in ethics or logistics... or even running models of the demographics on who will pay - how much - as compared to their disposable income ==== every one of those things were not addressed or even thought about...


Pos-ident obama and that gang of progressive socialists that rub shoulders with the WH Muslim-in-charge wanted to make the people into zombies & to have them be quietly subservient to the health-care dictates ... the good of the masses was not even considered... the will of the egomaniacs was the driving force... that and bringing the insurance/health/drug industries up to the level of the wall-street bankers et al


the NWO technocracy in Its beginning stages...
only the DNA manipulators need to be in the (government) Boardroom for the GATTACA dystopia to become reality here in Amerika


Gattaca - Dystopia
dystopia.com/movie/gattaca.html

In gattaca only the strong succeed and the strong are genetically pre-selected at
birth. But when one man dares to defy the system he gets caught in a web of ...


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posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 01:31 PM
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In a way is Republicans fault that they are using the failure of the ACA for political gain, since the bill was passed in 2010 with most republicans against it, it was obvious that they knew the failures ahead.

They knew that people were going to be out of their insurance, they knew that so far everything that has been implemented since passing in the early stages of transition has failed, from the 1099 provision, Federal high risk pools, Retiree health subsidies, CO-OPs, Small employer tax credits, Medical Loss Ratios, Medicaid expansions, Limits on FSA funding, and more are the parts of ACA that has been a failure, so is not reason to believe that ACA will fail eventually

But as usual all this well know facts has been hidden under the table for a future cash out for the Republicans when the time comes.

None of them political parties in questions care about the people, they care about how much they can gain from the whole ACA for one and the failure for the other one.



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