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TatTvamAsi
reply to post by Dark Ghost
The interesting question regarding conditioning that i would pose would be: Is there anything that does not belong to the realm of conditioning? What happens when you 'let go' in the buddhist sense for instance? Am I still conditioned if there are a few little fluffy clouds I just note but do not pay much attention to on my limitless blue sky?
TatTvamAsi
reply to post by TwoTonTommy
I would also challenge the notion that we are supposedly 'assemble reality naturally', as you stated. How can you be sure? Most of the time it seems like it is quite the contrary with our kind... Even a cow grazing in the field has more of that 'assemblage'. It will eat what it needs and leaves the rest to grow back, hell, it will even fertilize the poor sucker it fed upon.
The conditioning of man regrettably lies on many levels and runs deep. As you mentioned the societal factors, I hoped to bring the deeper layer of 'delusion' or 'conditioning' under the microscope as it is the layer responsible for what you mentioned as being generally understood as 'conditioning'. The fact is that we do it to ourselves constantly as well, most without even realizing it. Which brings us back to the original topic of questioning conditioning.
Living your life without unity and uniqueness, wonder, freshness and the innocence of a child is not a life worth living for me. It is like a man eating pizzas. He has an inifinte pile of pizza boxes in front of him. He opens each one in turn, eats some bits of the filling to his liking that he can easily identify under the layer of cheese. Next he throws the pizza away and continues in a similar fashion with the next box under it. And he never gets his fill either. I rather eat each whole pizza in turn and throw the empty boxes away savoring the taste and contemplating my fullness in between pizzas.
TwoTonTommy
"you will find objects that disappear from sight completely, or everything will disassemble into a haze of various colors. It's going back to a primal form of sensing, without identifying it."
TatTvamAsi
TwoTonTommy
"you will find objects that disappear from sight completely, or everything will disassemble into a haze of various colors. It's going back to a primal form of sensing, without identifying it."
Ok, been there, done that, could still do that... What is the point in that?