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Imperial America is Earth's all-seeing, all-smothering 'Eye of Sauron'

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posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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Beyond Orwell's Police State: the Tolkien 'Eye of Sauron' Sees & Smothers All

The world's Superpower (US, nicknamed big brother) has indeed progressed from Orwell's 'Animal Farm' and 1984 delivering puppet leaders and perpetual war, on to omniscient surveillance and global mind control, much like Tolkie's 'Eye of Sauron' depicted in the LOTR trilogy, and now, Hobbit.

What can we the little people and their defeated wizards (whistleblowers) do about?


Well, who is Sauron anyway? In terms of the eye being America (perhaps the center, currently Washington, DC) it stands to reason, Sauron is the bankster government & its agency/corporate associates, ie, NSA & even Google behind all the maddness. It lacks empathy, and is so arrogant about there being no light(resistance) in the grand shadow of itself(Imperial America, or NWO).

Schizophrenic theory/analogy? Hardly. I mean, I only came to this realization last night after watching Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug. Then just moments ago, googling to understand why the movie hardly concluded without any desolation of Smaug; I mean it looked like the Hobbits(Americans) hardly reclaimed their homeland(America) but rather just stirred up the sleeping Dragon, dooming Mankind(Earthlings).

www.sltrib.com...


Nov 15 2013 - "Concealed within his fortress, the lord of Mordor sees all. His gaze pierces cloud, shadow, earth, and flesh." — "Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring"

Like the eye of Sauron, the NSA’s new facility in Utah overlooks hundreds of thousands of people in the valley below. Perched on a mountainside fortress of concrete and barricades, the 1-million-square-foot complex exists solely to allow the NSA to "see all."

In the wake of the Snowden leaks and widespread concern with the pervasive surveillance activities of the federal government, many Americans have been wondering how to fight back. Can an effective opposition even be mounted against the power of the NSA? What can be done to restore privacy and protect our rights?



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posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 03:07 PM
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Unlike the Hobbit there are no magic rings. I have come to believe in my heart of hearts the only fix is utter collapse of the system. Something most of us will not live though....

I have said many times to my close freinds that if I could change the world and it would only cost me my life I would do it. If I could find a million people willing to do the same we could possibly affect a change, before we were all killed by drones and DHS of course.

Just how many people would need to pick up a gun, stop paying taxes and be kind to their neighbors in order to affect this kind of change? Far more than a million.
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posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 03:21 PM
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Without america the world would have succumbed to nazism and believe me it would not be a nice or kind world but one based on strength and eugenics with no pity for the weak, in other words the very antithesis of chivalric value were the duty of the strong it to defend the weak.

America has a disease and that disease is called corporate intrusion into public and government affairs but it is not the only nation to be so diseased, indeed most of the world today has that disease which if left unchecked will ( and I vouch for this ) prove terminal to our civilisation and maybe even our species.

America at it's heart is a nation with many good christian and moraly upright people, it has it's problems but I would still rather live there than many nations in this world and as for the dead coming home to both america and the UK you can blame the corporate interests for that and remember that when they use america up they will merely relocate to china or where ever it is most economically convenient, The NWO does exist but politicians are merely puppets and there power base is in the banking sector and the corporations.

These wars should never have happened but believe me there were and are interests in the middle east and the islamic world whom would destroy you, me and the whole west and celibrate about it even though we have done them no harm, have you ever heard of prince bander and his rumored harem of blond white children and the US state department turning a blind eye to his activitys and abductions because he is a powerful ally in the middle east, it is not the nation but the interests that control it that are often the problem and there were moral grounds to take military action but they were very selective about there target, for instance Afghanistan was about a pipeline to carry oil from azerbaijan through helmand to western china so that the CORPORATE interests could fill there grubby back pockets with it and we all know that Iraq was about oil as was the more recent Libya (the difference being that british interests were put out when american corporations - Dubbya took all the lucrative deals in iraq and so along with the french they divided Libyas assets amongst there corporations and took them keeping Americas nose out (directly any way) but making a reluctant america offer half hearted military aid.

Here is a song with a oratory called the new world order lullaby based on the song lullaby by Lorenna Mkennit www.youtube.com...

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posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 03:26 PM
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Unlike the Hobbit there are no magic rings. I have come to believe in my heart of hearts the only fix is utter collapse of the system. Something most of us will not live though....

It's only a fix as long as the same functional psychopaths don't rise to the top again. If they're allowed to escape into their bunkers, they will again end up at the helm of civilization, and history will perpetually repeat itself.



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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Please stop these anti-human posts.



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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LABTECH767
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Without america the world would have succumbed to nazism



That's a huge assumption to make.

What do you base that comment on?



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 03:39 PM
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Klassified
reply to post by Mamatus
 



Unlike the Hobbit there are no magic rings. I have come to believe in my heart of hearts the only fix is utter collapse of the system. Something most of us will not live though....

It's only a fix as long as the same functional psychopaths don't rise to the top again. If they're allowed to escape into their bunkers, they will again end up at the helm of civilization, and history will perpetually repeat itself.


Absolutely agree, actually America's downfall might be what they want. Then they can build a real empire from the ashes. America was made to be the opposite of what it has been turned into, and it has been changed mostly by the media and the people's opinions. And as you said, if it falls something else will just take it's place The only way to change it is to change the people's points of view. The hobbits were symbols for the average human being, and only they can save us from the real Sauron, which isn't America but something that controls America and the rest of the world.



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 04:24 PM
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LABTECH767
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Without america the world would have succumbed to nazism and believe me it would not be a nice or kind world but one based on strength and eugenics with no pity for the weak, in other words the very antithesis of chivalric value were the duty of the strong it to defend the weak.


BS.

Russia would of handed Hitler his ass, and was well on his way to do so when we finally joined in for D-day.

Stalin stood begging for another front against the Nazi, we waited, so he did it himself.

People far under value the Red army in WW2, Fascist would of fell to Communist, and Stalin could of very well marched on to an exhausted Britain (especially considering he wouldn't of had to send troops to invade Japan to help America at that point).



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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LABTECH767
reply to post by gardener
 


Without america the world would have succumbed to nazism and believe me it would not be a nice or kind world but one based on strength and eugenics with no pity for the weak, in other words the very antithesis of chivalric value were the duty of the strong it to defend the weak.

America has a disease and that disease is called corporate intrusion into public and government affairs but it is not the only nation to be so diseased, indeed most of the world today has that disease which if left unchecked will ( and I vouch for this ) prove terminal to our civilisation and maybe even our species.

America at it's heart is a nation with many good christian and moraly upright people, it has it's problems but I would still rather live there than many nations in this world and as for the dead coming home to both america and the UK you can blame the corporate interests for that and remember that when they use america up they will merely relocate to china or where ever it is most economically convenient, The NWO does exist but politicians are merely puppets and there power base is in the banking sector and the corporations.

These wars should never have happened but believe me there were and are interests in the middle east and the islamic world whom would destroy you, me and the whole west and celibrate about it even though we have done them no harm, have you ever heard of prince bander and his rumored harem of blond white children and the US state department turning a blind eye to his activitys and abductions because he is a powerful ally in the middle east, it is not the nation but the interests that control it that are often the problem and there were moral grounds to take military action but they were very selective about there target, for instance Afghanistan was about a pipeline to carry oil from azerbaijan through helmand to western china so that the CORPORATE interests could fill there grubby back pockets with it and we all know that Iraq was about oil as was the more recent Libya (the difference being that british interests were put out when american corporations - Dubbya took all the lucrative deals in iraq and so along with the french they divided Libyas assets amongst there corporations and took them keeping Americas nose out (directly any way) but making a reluctant america offer half hearted military aid.

Here is a song with a oratory called the new world order lullaby based on the song lullaby by Lorenna Mkennit www.youtube.com...

edit on 28-12-2013 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)



Who do you think created Nazism and put Hitler in power?
Firepiston



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Stalin would have been a complete lunatic if he had tried to invade Britain. He would not only have been taking on Britain, but also her Commonwealth.
India alone had a military of 2.5 million personnel.
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posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 04:55 PM
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alldaylong


Stalin would have been a complete lunatic if he had tried to invade Britain. He would not only have been taking on Britain, but also her Commonwealth.
India alone had a military of 2.5 million personnel.
edit on 28-12-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)


The Soviets could have defeated Germany with out the Allies, it would of taken longer to win, but it could of happen.

After the US went to the African front instead of opening a European front (all to secure British "Colonial power" ) cost the Soviets a bit, could have gone differently and left Stalin with a bit of anger once he theoretically conquered Germany.

Remember the Premise is no US intervention as the post suggested that US won the war. SO IF no US, no AID for Britain. Which would mean more Germany pounding while everyone waited for Russia to finish off Nazi.

People forget by 1943 Russia had rebuilt its industry after the first invasion, 2000 factories put out more tanks than Germany could produce, Superior tanks at that, the entire country united to defeat Nazi's.

Russia fought more Nazi divisions than the entire Allied army combined and where responsible for more Nazi deaths (and their own losses) than any other nation.

It really is sad that here in the US at-least we so diminish the Russian sacrifice during the war, quick to point out Stalin allied with Hitler, but even that was after asking for an alliance against the Nazi and being turned down by the US and Britain.



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 05:01 PM
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benrl

alldaylong


Stalin would have been a complete lunatic if he had tried to invade Britain. He would not only have been taking on Britain, but also her Commonwealth.
India alone had a military of 2.5 million personnel.
edit on 28-12-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)


The Soviets could have defeated Germany with out the Allies, it would of taken longer to win, but it could of happen.

After the US went to the African front instead of opening a European front (all to secure British "Colonial power" ) cost the Soviets a bit, could have gone differently and left Stalin with a bit of anger once he theoretically conquered Germany.

Remember the Premise is no US intervention as the post suggested that US won the war. SO IF no US, no AID for Britain. Which would mean more Germany pounding while everyone waited for Russia to finish off Nazi.

People forget by 1943 Russia had rebuilt its industry after the first invasion, 2000 factories put out more tanks than Germany could produce, Superior tanks at that, the entire country united to defeat Nazi's.

Russia fought more Nazi divisions than the entire Allied army combined and where responsible for more Nazi deaths (and their own losses) than any other nation.

It really is sad that here in the US at-least we so diminish the Russian sacrifice during the war, quick to point out Stalin allied with Hitler, but even that was after asking for an alliance against the Nazi and being turned down by the US and Britain.


Oh dear

Britain and her commonwealth forces defeated Rommel in North Africa before the Americans arrived.

Had you also forgotten that Germany was only fighting in Europe and North Africa, unlike Britain who was also fighting not only in Europe and North Africa, but also The Far East against Japan. Hitlers war was more or less in his own back yard.



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 05:05 PM
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Keep in mind America with all its recent/current ongoing war waged is as anti-human as one can get in modern history.


alldaylong

That's a huge assumption to make.

What do you base that comment on?


Exactly, I was wondering what countries in the mideast and asia did hitler's Nazis invade and even drop atom, nuke, & uranium bombs on


The daunting question is...

IS AMERICA STOPPABLE??

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 05:09 PM
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alldaylong

benrl

alldaylong


Stalin would have been a complete lunatic if he had tried to invade Britain. He would not only have been taking on Britain, but also her Commonwealth.
India alone had a military of 2.5 million personnel.
edit on 28-12-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)


The Soviets could have defeated Germany with out the Allies, it would of taken longer to win, but it could of happen.

After the US went to the African front instead of opening a European front (all to secure British "Colonial power" ) cost the Soviets a bit, could have gone differently and left Stalin with a bit of anger once he theoretically conquered Germany.

Remember the Premise is no US intervention as the post suggested that US won the war. SO IF no US, no AID for Britain. Which would mean more Germany pounding while everyone waited for Russia to finish off Nazi.

People forget by 1943 Russia had rebuilt its industry after the first invasion, 2000 factories put out more tanks than Germany could produce, Superior tanks at that, the entire country united to defeat Nazi's.

Russia fought more Nazi divisions than the entire Allied army combined and where responsible for more Nazi deaths (and their own losses) than any other nation.

It really is sad that here in the US at-least we so diminish the Russian sacrifice during the war, quick to point out Stalin allied with Hitler, but even that was after asking for an alliance against the Nazi and being turned down by the US and Britain.


Oh dear

Britain and her commonwealth forces defeated Rommel in North Africa before the Americans arrived.

Had you also forgotten that Germany was only fighting in Europe and North Africa, unlike Britain who was also fighting not only in Europe and North Africa, but also The Far East against Japan. Hitlers war was more or less in his own back yard.


My point was the move was passive aggressive, Going to Africa when they where not needed shows how little Russia needed them anyway.

Thats my point there, that Instead of actually helping the Russians out, the US really just dithered about while Stalin was watching his people die.

On avg Stalin red army fought upwards of 200 German divisions on avg VS the Allies avg of of 10 at a time.

In a single battle (Stalingrad) the Russians lost more Troops than the Allies did in all the war, My entire point being this "Myth" that the US won the War is rather silly from a real honest look at tactical numbers.



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 05:11 PM
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What will really bake your noodle, is realizing that "Frodo Baggins" is actually the bad guy. They carry the ring, but they won't use it. One person is designated to carry it back to the fires of Mount Doom. What does this say?



Sauron is the all seeing force of good. "[s]He" "it" requires the magick of the ring(for judicious application). The poison pill. They use it against us. Anyone make sense of that?



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 05:13 PM
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benrl

alldaylong

benrl

alldaylong


Stalin would have been a complete lunatic if he had tried to invade Britain. He would not only have been taking on Britain, but also her Commonwealth.
India alone had a military of 2.5 million personnel.
edit on 28-12-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)


The Soviets could have defeated Germany with out the Allies, it would of taken longer to win, but it could of happen.

After the US went to the African front instead of opening a European front (all to secure British "Colonial power" ) cost the Soviets a bit, could have gone differently and left Stalin with a bit of anger once he theoretically conquered Germany.

Remember the Premise is no US intervention as the post suggested that US won the war. SO IF no US, no AID for Britain. Which would mean more Germany pounding while everyone waited for Russia to finish off Nazi.

People forget by 1943 Russia had rebuilt its industry after the first invasion, 2000 factories put out more tanks than Germany could produce, Superior tanks at that, the entire country united to defeat Nazi's.

Russia fought more Nazi divisions than the entire Allied army combined and where responsible for more Nazi deaths (and their own losses) than any other nation.

It really is sad that here in the US at-least we so diminish the Russian sacrifice during the war, quick to point out Stalin allied with Hitler, but even that was after asking for an alliance against the Nazi and being turned down by the US and Britain.


Oh dear

Britain and her commonwealth forces defeated Rommel in North Africa before the Americans arrived.

Had you also forgotten that Germany was only fighting in Europe and North Africa, unlike Britain who was also fighting not only in Europe and North Africa, but also The Far East against Japan. Hitlers war was more or less in his own back yard.


My point was the move was passive aggressive, Going to Africa when they where not needed shows how little Russia needed them anyway.

Thats my point there, that Instead of actually helping the Russians out, the US really just dithered about while Stalin was watching his people die.

On avg Stalin red army fought upwards of 200 German divisions on avg VS the Allies avg of of 10 at a time.

In a single battle (Stalingrad) the Russians lost more Troops than the Allies did in all the war, My entire point being this "Myth" that the US won the War is rather silly from a real honest look at tactical numbers.


You do know that Britain and her allies supplied Russia with tanks, aircraft and other military equipment during WW II ?



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 05:22 PM
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alldaylong

benrl

alldaylong

benrl

alldaylong


Stalin would have been a complete lunatic if he had tried to invade Britain. He would not only have been taking on Britain, but also her Commonwealth.
India alone had a military of 2.5 million personnel.
edit on 28-12-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)


The Soviets could have defeated Germany with out the Allies, it would of taken longer to win, but it could of happen.

After the US went to the African front instead of opening a European front (all to secure British "Colonial power" ) cost the Soviets a bit, could have gone differently and left Stalin with a bit of anger once he theoretically conquered Germany.

Remember the Premise is no US intervention as the post suggested that US won the war. SO IF no US, no AID for Britain. Which would mean more Germany pounding while everyone waited for Russia to finish off Nazi.

People forget by 1943 Russia had rebuilt its industry after the first invasion, 2000 factories put out more tanks than Germany could produce, Superior tanks at that, the entire country united to defeat Nazi's.

Russia fought more Nazi divisions than the entire Allied army combined and where responsible for more Nazi deaths (and their own losses) than any other nation.

It really is sad that here in the US at-least we so diminish the Russian sacrifice during the war, quick to point out Stalin allied with Hitler, but even that was after asking for an alliance against the Nazi and being turned down by the US and Britain.


Oh dear

Britain and her commonwealth forces defeated Rommel in North Africa before the Americans arrived.

Had you also forgotten that Germany was only fighting in Europe and North Africa, unlike Britain who was also fighting not only in Europe and North Africa, but also The Far East against Japan. Hitlers war was more or less in his own back yard.


My point was the move was passive aggressive, Going to Africa when they where not needed shows how little Russia needed them anyway.

Thats my point there, that Instead of actually helping the Russians out, the US really just dithered about while Stalin was watching his people die.

On avg Stalin red army fought upwards of 200 German divisions on avg VS the Allies avg of of 10 at a time.

In a single battle (Stalingrad) the Russians lost more Troops than the Allies did in all the war, My entire point being this "Myth" that the US won the War is rather silly from a real honest look at tactical numbers.


You do know that Britain and her allies supplied Russia with tanks, aircraft and other military equipment during WW II ?



I thought that was America with its lend lease act...... while declaring itself neutral



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 05:31 PM
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alldaylong

benrl

alldaylong

benrl

alldaylong


Stalin would have been a complete lunatic if he had tried to invade Britain. He would not only have been taking on Britain, but also her Commonwealth.
India alone had a military of 2.5 million personnel.
edit on 28-12-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)


The Soviets could have defeated Germany with out the Allies, it would of taken longer to win, but it could of happen.

After the US went to the African front instead of opening a European front (all to secure British "Colonial power" ) cost the Soviets a bit, could have gone differently and left Stalin with a bit of anger once he theoretically conquered Germany.

Remember the Premise is no US intervention as the post suggested that US won the war. SO IF no US, no AID for Britain. Which would mean more Germany pounding while everyone waited for Russia to finish off Nazi.

People forget by 1943 Russia had rebuilt its industry after the first invasion, 2000 factories put out more tanks than Germany could produce, Superior tanks at that, the entire country united to defeat Nazi's.

Russia fought more Nazi divisions than the entire Allied army combined and where responsible for more Nazi deaths (and their own losses) than any other nation.

It really is sad that here in the US at-least we so diminish the Russian sacrifice during the war, quick to point out Stalin allied with Hitler, but even that was after asking for an alliance against the Nazi and being turned down by the US and Britain.


Oh dear

Britain and her commonwealth forces defeated Rommel in North Africa before the Americans arrived.

Had you also forgotten that Germany was only fighting in Europe and North Africa, unlike Britain who was also fighting not only in Europe and North Africa, but also The Far East against Japan. Hitlers war was more or less in his own back yard.


My point was the move was passive aggressive, Going to Africa when they where not needed shows how little Russia needed them anyway.

Thats my point there, that Instead of actually helping the Russians out, the US really just dithered about while Stalin was watching his people die.

On avg Stalin red army fought upwards of 200 German divisions on avg VS the Allies avg of of 10 at a time.

In a single battle (Stalingrad) the Russians lost more Troops than the Allies did in all the war, My entire point being this "Myth" that the US won the War is rather silly from a real honest look at tactical numbers.


You do know that Britain and her allies supplied Russia with tanks, aircraft and other military equipment during WW II ?



Im well aware of WW II history, I think your missing the PREMISE of the point I was trying to make and we are derailing this...

My point was a response to a post that US won the war, and the World would all be speaking Germans if not for the US.

Which is just wrong, any student of history can see that Russia would of stood, unless you change much more than just removing the US as the US really was not that essential to the defeat of the NAZI, they helped a Hell of a lot, and the war in the Pacific they can claim Victory in.

But certainly not in Europe by any stretch.



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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For those who want to know the huge amount of aid sent to Russia by the USA ( 15 million pairs of boots to start with!) just google 'American aid to Russia in WW 2, I was shocked when I read to totals.
I am going to Goggle British aid to Russia next.



posted on Dec, 28 2013 @ 06:50 PM
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Correct and without the north atlantic convoys russia would have fallen, hitler made tactical errors as well and it was almost a year longer for the russians than for us to realize if they assasinated him germany might actually have won as more competant military leadership would have prevailed and whatever we regard them as the german army and equipment was for the most part above parr and not only did they have better tanks but they also had the STG44 with was the worlds first assault rifle and would have entered service a year earlier but Hitler did not like it.

I suspect a lot of these people whom think russia would have won without us have no idea of the historical facts, now in russia they deliberatle obfuscated the part the western powers played in aiding them as they call the second world war the great patriotic war and would have there people even today believe they did it all by themselves always forgetting that at the start of the second world war Stalin had signed a non aggression pact with hitler and had even co invaded poland, it was hitlers mistake (but nevertheless a gamble that nearly won had he not been so fixated on stalingrad and simply gone around it as he should have) of launching operation barbarossa too early and with the german tank traks being too thin for the siberian winter once the weather changed the germans become bogged down.

Stalin meanwhile had gutted the soviet military in his purges and wiped nearly all competant military officers out leavling his soldiers poorly commanded for at least half the war.

SO NO RUSSIA WOULD NOT HAVE CRUSHED GERMANY without our help though it is concievable hitler would have made further tactical errors and wasted yet more of the best soldiers that the twentieth century had seen until the advent of the royal marine commandos (Actually the british soldiers were equal but we specialised in training all of our soldiers to be snipers and rifle men while the germans trained in the blitz krig tactic (ironically based on mixed unit tactics first demonstrated by the british military but never put into practice though observed by german peacetime observers whom took the lesson back home).



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