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MOMof3
reply to post by Oddzon
I am a democrat and never wanted any wars because I knew who would in the end pay for it. The working person, the poor, the disabled, the old, and our children's children.
jimmyx
now watch...when the economy starts to flatten out or even get worse, the republicans will be blaming Obama for
1)...increase in homeless
2)...increase in crime
3)...more people applying for welfare
4)...Obama not personally increasing the number of jobs
and since 2014 is an election year, these will be the republican talking points, hoping enough of the American public will be fooled and vote in a majority of tea-baggersedit on 29-12-2013 by jimmyx because: addition
MOMof3
reply to post by Oddzon
According to the facts, the wealthy are doing just fine since the 08 Crash. They can afford paying for wars a lot more than the rest who lost wages and retirements from the Great Recession and The Financial Crash.
They benefited from the TARP, the borrowing from China billions for QE. My income or my grown children's income has not increased a dime since 08 but we pay our taxes.
Now or later, taxes will have to be increased if corps keep sitting on trillions instead of hiring for an increased tax base. They cannot continue to have it both ways.
MOMof3
reply to post by Oddzon
I was born to poor, racist, violent, alcoholic Mississippi parents. I know what the worst is. The worst is belly swollen hunger. I am not afraid of riots because I have been there too in the 1960's. I am not afraid of dying.
I overcame the odds. I am not wealthy but I could retire at 57 because of hard work, a frugal life, and putting money in a trust fund, not the stock market.
My family will handle anything you have to throw at us.
Oddzon
MOMof3
reply to post by Oddzon
I am a democrat and never wanted any wars because I knew who would in the end pay for it. The working person, the poor, the disabled, the old, and our children's children.
and the wealthy...we ALL pay for it.
The wealthy are NOT the bad people here. The Republican AND Democrats are the problem. They both spend more money than we take in, they care more about staying in office than caring about the people that elected them and they have their own agenda.....and it is not good for us!
They have been destroying this country, taking away our rights and spending like drunken sailors. And I take issue with people like you that buy into the idea that the rich need to pay for everything.
The government is NOT our friend. This should be the land of opportunity, not the land of government assistance. This is a capitalist society not socialistic. If you fortunate to be rich....good for you, but if your not....you should have opportunity to make life what you want....without the rich paying for it!
If you want someone to blame.....try our elected officials. If you haven't noticed we spend way more money than we take in, do you think that will go on for ever? Why do you think so many are out of work? Do you really think more taxes from the rich will make it better? Maybe you need to stop listening to MSM and look at the numbers, I think you'll find a completely different story.
They are happy you don't know the truth. They like that you blame the rich, Republicans or whoever. I don't care if you believe me or not, just take the time to find out for yourself.....not some idiot on the television telling you what everything means, but actually finding out for yourself. Then it won't make a difference if you a Democrat, poor, rich or disabled....we need to stand as Americans.
jimmyx
there is no reason for the republicans to work with Obama to create any.
MOMof3
reply to post by Oddzon
The democrat's tent is big. I don't adhere to any party line like some nazi. But I do vote and for now, it is the democrat principles I like better. I started working 1968 and I know what the republican party use to stand for. JOBS.edit on 30-12-2013 by MOMof3 because: (no reason given)
MOMof3
reply to post by Oddzon
Anger is a good thing sometimes, but without a logical conclusion, it is only irrational rage. You seem to know all the problems and who is responsible. What are you doing about it?
Put that energy to new ideas. You know from history the most powerful thing for humans is an "idea". I am tired and only have hard learned lessons to talk about.
I agree, it is not democrat or republican. But something happened when we all were not looking.