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Has anyone considered that this whole PRISM dragnet is just PROPOGANDA aimed at making the masses think that the government sees all and knows all?? I mean, I'm no expert in meta-data or Cray computing, but I am an expert on common sense. Let's run some numbers and see if any of this poppycock passes the sniff test:
reply to post by Aazadan
Hmm... well PRISM exists, I have a friend who has done wiring at a PRISM facility in New York. I believe that the PRiSM facility uses real-time monitoring of network traffic (end belief) by illegally wiring in to major network nodes in big cities and siphoning that traffic into their computer centers, kind of like splitting your neighbor's cable television cord and getting a signal off of it.
Meta-data - that's an interesting concept, see. It's actually worse for our freedoms that they are using meta-data. That means that their algorithms are able to pick up on questionable conversations using keywords and / or behavioral patterns.
So what happens after the meta-data picks someone of interest, eh? Does everyone really think that the N.S.A. will stick to only using meta-data? How would that prevent "terrorism?"
Pauley's ruling contrasted with a ruling of a similar suit in the D.C. District by Richard J. Leon.
reply to post by Miniscuzz
Tor is funded by USAID and the USDOD. When you send that information out to bounce around. It bounced around government computers. They know who sent what where. They just hide that information from other countries in order to protect all those groups they say fight for freedom in other countries.
Personally my only real fear of the NSA is that someday they allow regular law enforcement access to their records for everyday prosecutions. It is hard to maintain credibility on the stand when the NSA has better records of where you were and when, then you do..... This is the real fear.
reply to post by iRoyalty
Where in the Constitution does it say you have a right to privacy?
Amendment IX: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The Constitution mentions nothing called the "right of privacy." In 1973 the Supreme Court, relying in large part on preceding rulings that overturned state laws forbidding contraception, found that an inherent right to personal privacy existed.
Has anyone considered that this whole PRISM dragnet is just PROPOGANDA aimed at making the masses think that the government sees all and knows all??
This is all propaganda in which the government is trying to scare it's citizens into thinking that it's impossible to dissent because they know everything about what you and your neighbors are doing at all times?
Billy creates a YT account through Tor using Linux and uploads a 5 minute instructional video calling it "My thoughts on Jesus" (which most lay people would never search), then uses another burner phone to text the other 5 terrorists the link on their new burner phones.
Now, Billy has used email, YT, texts, and voice calls. All of which the NSA collected "metadata" on. I assert that without a crystal ball, NO LINK will ever, or CAN EVER be made using the data supposedly collected without MANUALLY going through every single communication worldwide by a HUMAN BEING.
If you claim otherwise, then you are a lost cause. With just a little computer knowledge, you'd understand that PRISM as claimed, is complete nonsense and is just propaganda. That is the only reasonable answer sir.
So what is their real purpose? Personally I think they are trying to profile people for some future reason or event.
Ok guys I have something for you to think about.
We know the NSA has not been able to stop any terrorists attacks in the US. Now that everyone knows the NSA is collecting data I would venture to say they will never be able to stop any attacks. But what do we see here, NSA and the White house going apesh*t saying they must keep collecting (Americans) data for our safety. Sounds to me like the NSA's job was never about stopping terrorists. For some reason they want to know everything about you and me. Who we call, what we say, what websites we visit, our health records and what we buy. Only thing they are missing is the color and smell of our sh*t and maybe they even have that on file for good measure. So what is their real purpose? Personally I think they are trying to profile people for some future reason or event.
Let me know what you guys think. Why is it so important for them to continue to spy and collect data on American citizens in the US.