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The Muslim authors routinely state that šid means “shine, radiance, . Ebn al-Aṯir adds that jam means “moon” : jam-šid means “brightness of the moon” [
As described in the Avesta ,under Yima’s rule the world prospered and the number of people, cattle, and fires increased, while the daēuuas were deprived of their desires and *yearning (išti and saokā, which are kept in the moon
Reasons why humanity was immortal are given in the Middle Persian translation of Yasna 9.1, where people are said to have become immortal by eating the meat Jam offered them
The Zoroastrian and Muslim Persian literature contains the stories about Yima/Jamšid and Tahmura and the discovery of the healing property of bull’s urine
Before he proclaimed himself universal monarch on New Year’s Day, at the creator’s command, he went to the Činwad bridge ,closed the door to Hell, and locked it so that Ahrimen and the divs could not enter, and so no one died during his reign.
In the central Pamirs, above the banks of the river Ak-Dzhilga / Ak-Jilga, in the valley of Murghab, are the remains of remote settlements and a mining complex called Bazar-Dara and Ak-Jilga.
About 1,200 - 1,500 people lived in the settlement which included an administrative complex, a fire-temple, and a bath with sub-floor (kan) heating. The size fits the first level of a Jamshidi Vara Water was obtained from small wells and skilfully designed water basins.
In this region, the soil is frozen most of the year and trees cannot grow. The large building that is believed to have functioned as a medieval caravanserai, also has Vara-like features.
Uh oh Chamberf=6, looks like you ran up against someone that thinks Yima actually laid his knife against the ground and caused the Earth to expand (twice) to accomodate the overpopulation resulting from his "stewardship" of mankind.
The Aryans were an Indo-European tribal grouping that would also generally be considered to have migrated...
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I suggest you look up the definition of "mythos"
Most of what we think we know is based mainly on myth.
There are also similarities between Hinduism and Zoroastrianism.
1 a : myth
b : mythology
2a 2 : a pattern of beliefs expressing often symbolically the characteristic or prevalent attitudes in a group or culture 3 : theme, plot
fable, legend, myth
allegory, parable; fabrication, fantasy (also phantasy), fiction, figment, invention; narrative, saga, story, tale, yarn
reply to post by Harte
Then again, maybe I am just smart enough to realize that most of what I have been taught is based on mythologies, while you have never figured that out. There are many who will never pull back the curtain.
You pull information from a link titled "mythos", and you claim the poster actually believes "Yima actually laid his knife against the ground and caused the Earth to expand."
The only way I can see coming to this conclusion is that you don't understand the meaning of the word "mythos". This makes you and your friend look like the only fools on this thread.
A wise man would consider the symbology of these tales.
edit on 28-12-2013 by poet1b because: typos
There were tribes and people that used the term ''aryan'' in a non-racial way, in the way the Vedas originally mention it. Saying the ''noble'' refers to a tribe is akin to saying the ''righteous'' in the Old Testament were actually a tribe. Hitlers imagined ''aryans'' or rather the progenitors of the European people, could not have called themselves ''Aryans'', because the term is not of European origin, but rather Vedic / Sanskritic in origin.
Certainly the Germans went to extremes with their theory of Aryan origins for all Northern Europeans, when it seems more likely they were just one Indo-European tribal grouping of Central Asia, but it seems equally extreme to counter that by suggesting there were no Aryan tribes.
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The Aryans were an Indo-European tribal grouping that would also generally be considered to have migrated from the Core Neolithic region, so i don't think it can be said that Europeans originated from those Aryans, though they were closely related, but the extent of Mesolithic population remnants in the Aryan homeland region is uncertain.