I don't post really at all, but this topic has really fascinated me and I thought I'd weigh in because this HelloBruce character is spreading
falsehoods and I really hate ignorant people, so here goes.
I'd like to answer something Mr. Bruce mentioned early on in the thread. He asked anyone to list any "experts" who have claimed that Barak's BC is
fake. Well I can name no less than 50 experts, but decided on just one. Not for any other reason than this man has testified at trials both at the
State and Federal levels AND he is a member of the EXACT firm that Barack H. Obama is using as his defense counsel to defend his BC at court.
His name is Mr. Reed Hayes and is a certified document examiner and forensic handwriting analyst. Here is a snippet from the article as well as the
“We have obtained an affidavit from a certified document analyzer, Reed Hayes, that states the document is a 100 percent forgery, no doubt about
it,” said Cold Case Posse Lead Investigator Lt. Mike Zullo in an exclusive interview with WorldTribune.
This is a key development, asserts Lt. Zullo, because Mr. Hayes is a certified handwriting analyst and forensic document examiner who worked
repeatedly for Perkins Coie, a reputable law firm, and was deemed a dependable professional in their legal cases. Moreover, Perkins Coie has defended
Mr. Obama in his legal jousts on the birth certificate matter over the past five years."
Now that that's out of the way and there can be no argument against without discrediting Obamas own legal team, let's move on.
The citizenship issue has many angles but I have chosen just one which seems to me to be the most legitimate. Barack Obama has stated that he went to
Pakistan in 1981. During that time, Pakistan was under military rule and disallowed any travel there by US Citizens unless it was under a Diplomatic
Atache. Being that Mr. Obama was in College at that time and had no Diplomatic status, nor had parents with any such title, I find it hard to believe
that Obama was indeed a US Citizen at that time. In fact, had he been an Indonesian citizen, which some claim, Mr. Obama would have had no problem
In effect, Mr. Obama himself alludes to this when he registered in Illinois to become an attorney. In the portion of his affidavit where it asks if
the Petitioner has ever used any other names, Mr. Obama lied and said no. We all know this to be false because his birth name is Barry Soetoro. The
only justification for lying about something that would be trivial to you or I is that Mr. Obama has something to hide that involves either his name
or place of birth. If I were to lie on any State Affidavit, I would be charged with a Felony, but of course, I'm just a commoner.
Next, I'll focus on Mr. Obamas SSN as there's a lot of misinformation in this thread by Mr. Bruce regarding how the SS Administration operates.
First, no one at all can deny that Mr. Obama's current number is indeed NOT his from birth. To say otherwise is an obvious attempt to derail and
The Social Security Administration has never recycled SSN's and never will. This is from the SSA's own website:
"The SSA is adamant that numbers are never recycled and likely won't be for the foreseeable future. Given the nine-digit format, there are a hair
under 1 billion possible permutations, taking into account that numbers like 000-00-0000 and other oddities aren't distributed. (An elaborate
mathematical guesstimate here quotes the precise figure as 988,911,099.) So far, the SSA has doled out roughly 400 million numbers. Population
researchers calculate that roughly 300 million people will require new Social Security numbers by the year 2050—about 230 million native births plus
68 million immigrants, give or take 50 million all told. Barring unforeseen circumstances, such as a meteor strike or cloning boom, the current
enumeration system should last nearly another century."
HelloBruce claims earlier in this thread that "Of course Obama has changed his number...because people have seen it!"
Well Mr. Bruce...assuming you're right (which you are not, but I'll play Devils Advocate for you), the SSA would need only make a brand new number
for Mr. Obama seeing as they still have about 600 Million numbers they could use which have never been used by anyone according to their own
Furthermore, the idea that anyone could possibly use POTUS' SSN for anything like identity theft is absurd on it's face. So there's no need to ever
change his own SSN for any reason...except to hide something.
HelloBruce is the loudest one in this room, which means he is the weakest one in this room. He is assuming that no one will do any research on his
word-vomit replies and continues to parrot the same responses over and over. Well Mr. Bruce, just because you shout something from the mountain top
over and over doesn't make what you're saying any more true. In fact, it shows me that you really have no other argument other than you are just too
closed minded to accept any alternative narrative other than the one you already have.
I admire the fact that you are outspoken and seem to genuinely like POTUS. I like the idea of the POTUS, just not a lying, deceiver such as the
current one. Now, I cannot produce any smoking gun as to whether Mr. Obama is a true US Citizen but I do have science on my side with Occams
Occams Razor is a basic scientific principle that states: "All things being equal, the simplest answer tends to be the right one".
So I ask you Mr. Bruce, which answer is the simplest one?
1) That a man who has no verifiable SSN and no verifiable hard copy of his own Birth Certificate was able to get a US Passport in order to travel to
Pakistan when no other US Citizen could. That this same man, who lied about aliases on a State Affidavit, who produces no evidence of ever having
attended any college whatsoever besides hearsay, who no one knows anything about at all, who's own defense lawyer claims his BC is indeed a
forgery....is indeed verified enough to hold the most powerful position in the world as POTUS even though everything out of the Mans mouth has been a
2) This is all another elaborate hoax perpetuated by the same people who brought you the JFK Assassination, Fast and Furious, Federal Reserve, 9-11,
I think deep down you know the answer, but one can only be led to water...they can't be made to drink it.
I'm not some fly-by-night poster my friend, so don't try to compare brain pans with me because in the end, you'll only go scurrying back to your hole
ashamed to have even bothered. I'm on board for a healthy debate with you or anyone else, but parroting snopes.com or any other left wing site won't
do. Come with real facts and prove anything I've stated above to be false, and I'll be the first to agree. Screaming I'm just racist, or making
false claims as you have been throughout this thread will only make yourself look like a shill. You aren't a shill are you Mr. Bruce?
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