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The JFK assassination---The Big Event made Simple---50 years is long enough!

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posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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AngryCymraeg

MagnumOpus
Well----you are part of London, England now------if you live there you support England.


Thanks for admitting you support England! imho


?????? Can someone please translate this? It seems to be to be pure idiocy.



You do pay Taxes and support England-----else you are an illegal.

You work in London, England, which supports England's interests.

Really simple. You live there, you work there, you are a Londoner. imho




posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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MagnumOpus
So, you present non-sense. But what would one expect of a Mason in their attempts to cover up their mutual crimes. imho


If you could present any evidence that masonry had anything to do with FDR being killed, everyone would be impressed.

I just find it amusing that you think that after he started his fourth term, and was very ill, Stalin decided then was the time to plan a carefully executed assassination. He could either poison him slowly, or just wait a few weeks for his blood pressure to pop.

See, once you get past your wall of text, you apply common sense and it fails. In epic proportions.

As I have said, until you comprehend the structure of masonry between states, you will continue to not understand why your theory is so flawed.

I wonder if people would think I was nuts if I tried to make every crime I could find be tied to you. I am sure I could blog about it, then cite my blog as a "citation" in hopes that my readers were dumber than I was, on a site like this, you have such a wide range of intellects, I don't think it would float long.

But good luck in your endeavors. For your sake, I hope none of the readers check your sources.



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 11:32 AM
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MagnumOpus

AngryCymraeg

MagnumOpus
Well----you are part of London, England now------if you live there you support England.


Thanks for admitting you support England! imho


?????? Can someone please translate this? It seems to be to be pure idiocy.



You do pay Taxes and support England-----else you are an illegal.

You work in London, England, which supports England's interests.

Really simple. You live there, you work there, you are a Londoner. imho


Aha, now I see what the problem is. Sadly we can't help you here.
I am British and I happen to live and work in the capital of the UK. Do you have a problem with the concept of the UK? I can hate England and be British. Sorry if that makes your head hurt. I suggest that you try and wrap your head about it. If you can.



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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MagnumOpus

AngryCymraeg

MagnumOpus

AngryCymraeg

network dude
Oh, and remember, LBJ couldn't have even gone to a meeting. He was only a 1st degree mason. (entered apprentice)
Essentially, he went to one meeting, (his initiation) and never went back.


But but but... EBIL MASONS ARE EVERYWHERE! (Hides behind sofa)

This message was brought to you by the Magnum Opus Society of Blaming Masons for Everything.



I just do the history, which you don't have a clue about.

History supports lots of corrupt Masons altering the record on the Warren Commission. Mason Hoover withholding evidence and not investigating essential things.

Mason Hoover getting pay offs from Mason Clint Murchison. LHO connected with Mason Guy Banister in New Orleans.


Not to mention the CIA emulators in Europe as PERMINDEX was founded upon Mason George Mandel, which then tried to kill de Gaulle with Banister sending them money, then Ferenc Nagy shows up in Banisters office in later years.


And the lists of Masons involved in Civil Rights is huge-----even connects with HL Hunt running a Mason for President.


And the list goes on and on.

And You the London, England supporter sees nothing-----thus you become the Embodiment of Ignorance for England and Masons. imho



edit on 28-2-2014 by MagnumOpus because: It is easy to spot corrupt English connected omissions of essential elements of evidence linking Masons. imho


Translation: "Masons ARE behind everything!!!!"

This message was brought to you by the Magnum Opus Society of Blaming Masons for Everything.



More of your usual misleading non-sense.

I show Masons involved in the JFK hit, Lincoln's Death, and the FDR issues.


Show everyone where I said Everything. You lied again. imho


I'm mocking you. And boy is it ever easy!
But seriously - you claim that the masons were behind the deaths of FDR, JFK, and Lincoln, whilst also starting the Second World War? Where does Hitler factor in to your little fantasy land?



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 01:26 PM
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Damn, I'm slipping - and where's the explanation of FDR's great plan to chop the UK up?



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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At this point, I don't think I can even come up with a wild enough "explanation" that could obviously be sarcastic, since there are already so many people out there with wild explanations they're completely serious about.

So I'm still sticking with time travelers. For some reason, the time travelers protected Hitler against 42 assassination attempts, yet for some other reason did in JFK. Whatever JFK did in the original timeline must have been worse than what Hitler did. I'm guessing nuclear war of some kind.


edit on 28-2-2014 by Blue Shift because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 03:35 PM
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Blue Shift
At this point, I don't think I can even come up with a wild enough "explanation" that could obviously be sarcastic, since there are already so many people out there with wild explanations they're completely serious about.

So I'm still sticking with time travelers. For some reason, the time travelers protected Hitler against 42 assassination attempts, yet for some other reason did in JFK. Whatever JFK did in the original timeline must have been worse than what Hitler did. I'm guessing nuclear war of some kind.


edit on 28-2-2014 by Blue Shift because: (no reason given)


Time travelling masons!!! (Gasp! - Flees in terror)



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 05:29 PM
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Forum Predators and List Misinformation types are nothing new on the JFK interest area. I have already shown a link to the methods they use and there are pleanty of examples of the same right here in ATS.


One JFK Forum is in England and has become rather infamous, even on ATS. Anyone listing a source to that English based list area JFK forum gets immediately censored, and they call them bad names. I was rather impressed that ATS had their number early on, and it is justified that they do support Crook Games on JFK and other areas. Good Job ATS.


Correlation-ally to this Discussion, that JFK Forum is loaded with English types that are fine with listing all the wild ideas, but they come unglued when anyone links England and the Kennedy issues or FDR and his anti-England issues, or connected the dots on the Masons in the Warren Commission, the Mason that ran LHO named Guy Banister, and the Dallas Masons including Murchison and the Lamar gang in Houston. That is taboo for them, because it smacks dead center of the truth on the JFK hit. imho

That Forum is run by a person they tell is connected with the Fabian Political Group in England. One can find interesting issues connected with Fabians.


Since that Forum has allowed the attacks of the English types, not interested in getting to the bottom of the JFK hit, upon serious researchers, it has come upon hard times. Nearly no serious researcher respects that Forum any longer and it is going to shut down due to the reputation of being such Forum of hate on those doing real research on the JFK hit issues. It works just like here with lots of name calling and all the games of the Internet Troll methods. It has gained them such disrespect that the Forum is going down the drain.


I think it is the only English based forum on the JFK issues, and one can tell it is rigged by the absence of telling who are Masons that are connected with the JFK hit. While generally Wiki-Pedia will tell the Masons connections as well as the Catholic Knights Malta associations. Both of which are important to getting to the bottom of the JFK hit and how the US Intelligence and CIA was run.

One can take note that ATS allows it to be told who the Masons are in the JFK hit planning and cover up. The English list would never allow that to happen, and since that is how they operate it has slowed down the truth telling on JFK, yet exposed many of the culprits intent on the cover up of the essential criminal factors. imho

One can generally look up persons Bios on that JFK Forum and you won't find any mention of their easy to find Mason connections, and then run over to look at Wikipedia and find most of the masons so denoted. It gets to be really obvious that English list is about Crooks trying to hide the real issues on the JFK crime. imho

Even stacking the deck with Masons in the USAEC and NASA are important issues as to how they were connected with DISC, Hoover, and PERMINDEX.


On ATS, you get to read those issues, and check how many Masons were involved in the JFK run up for the hit, and the cover up for the hit. Such becomes rather obvious as to who the Crooks are for the JFK hit, as well as how the Internet is stacked with game players and many of them English and Masons.


How about that!!! ATS is about the cure for ignorance via just telling the history and associations that are generally hidden by those connected with the JFK crime.


On ATS one gets to talk about the old drunk English boy's (Churchill) "Special Relationship" (Masons) with Hoover and FDR, and that Special Relationship is the heart of the JFK hit due to those same elements trying to control and run the US in JFK's time. imho


Anyone needed a refresher look at how they work in their petty attempts to cover up that which is obvious, can read below:


Internet Cover-up Tactics and Methods




edit on 28-2-2014 by MagnumOpus because: History on the JFK hit tells those most responsible as we follow the money ! imho



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 06:08 PM
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Riiiight. So, once again I'm somehow English (even though I'm Cymraeg - sorry - Welsh) and now I'm an ebil sooper seekrit MASON INFILTRATOR!!! Yeah right. Bad me for daring to point out facts.

EDIT: A quick question, as I'm genuinely curious. What do you think the UK should have done in 1940 after the fall of France?
edit on 28-2-2014 by AngryCymraeg because: Train of thought.



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 06:47 PM
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AngryCymraeg
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Riiiight. So, once again I'm somehow English (even though I'm Cymraeg - sorry - Welsh) and now I'm an ebil sooper seekrit MASON INFILTRATOR!!! Yeah right. Bad me for daring to point out facts.

EDIT: A quick question, as I'm genuinely curious. What do you think the UK should have done in 1940 after the fall of France?
edit on 28-2-2014 by AngryCymraeg because: Train of thought.



The Simple Fact is you live and work in London, England------that is your livelihood. That is your Lord and King! imho

Stick to the subject !



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 06:56 PM
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So, according to you my wife, who is a US citizen, is English? Nope. Massive failure there. Tut tut.
And I, who hate the English as I am Welsh, am also English? Nope, massive failure again. Tut tut.
Oh and finally - is the US Ambassador to the UK somehow also English? Even more massive failure there.
Maggers, are you even trying?



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 09:08 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 03:07 AM
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Right - so OP, where's the proof that FDR wanted to split up the UK? And where's the proof that isn't based on cites from conspiracy sites such as Rense.com or hate sites like Yankophobe? Do you have any evidence for your theory about masonic assassins?



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 08:13 AM
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To understand the issues that led to the JFK assassination, one has to learn the historic issues of FDR and his New Deal version of a New World Order built upon the ideals of the Founding Fathers of America and the US Constitution.

FDR went to war, in part, to gain power and control over the English methods of control over the world. There are actually two New World Orders, one proposed by FDR and one from the issues of Empire. FDR sought to break that apart the second in all of its forms.

One can spot why the European version of the CIA, PERMINDEX, went after trying to kill France's de Gaulle and that Independence of Algeria was an issue way back then. PERMINDEX wanted to kill de Gaulle for allowing Algeria to go Communist, but also following the breaking up of Colonial systems in any form, and that being support of FDR's greater visions.

PERMINDEX originated in part in Montreal and used a Jewish Banker, Tabor Rosenbaum, that set up a Swiss Bank to launder money into PERMINDEX operations in Europe. It used Hungarian Nobelist Ferenc Nagy and Mason George Mandel, and a good part of it was aimed at backing Zionism interests. That system was helped along with money from Mason Guy Banister and the Texas Masons. Here enters Hoover's English and Jewish DISC controller and PERMINDEX operator Louis Bloomfield. PERMINDEX formed from basically the Russian interest in satellite state buffer zones that took Hungary by force in the mid-50's. That same money, the same Mason funders, and PERMINDEX allied interests in the US would come to be highly involved in the JFK hit, as they were in the de Gaulle hit attempts.

JFK, as was Joe Kennedy, were the "Disciples of Roosevelt." Jackie Kennedy visited France and de Gaulle and she so impressed him that de Gaulle became a JFK supporter, and both pulled for FDR ideals of a New World Order or New Deal system. Algeria was let go by France to seek self-determination, which was right out of the FDR plans against the English Nobilists.

The other sinister New World Order was based upon Oligarchic Control and PERMINDEX supported those oppressive ideals and tried to gain support of the Vatican in Rome, but all was found out on de Gaulle's attempted murder and they were chased out of Europe by INTERPOL.

These days there is another FDR Disciple named Lyndon La Rouche, which the Oligarch's also hate and do their best to not allow another FDR or JFK become president and push the ideals of FDR's New World Order (aka New Deal issues) back into dominance in world affairs.

FDR was solidly against England's Imperialism and Financial methods to gain One World Rule, and part of that was backing US Banking into a corner that would make them treasonous in name and actions. And in the JFK times that would mean to take apart the Federal Reserve and do what JFK did via the US Note and Ex Order 11110.

JFK was doing exactly what FDR's thinking would be doing in his presidency, and the same type name calling of Communist was being applied and it was coming from the old hate mongers of FDR, the English Oligarchs in want of "the Anglo-American cabal, based on looting and globalist one-world rule."

Such basic history and knowledge basically solves those behind the JFK assassination, and the upper echelons were the Fed. Res. backer Hoover, the big Mason Banker Clint Murchison, the Mason FBI agent Guy Banister, PERMINDEX alliances in the US (Masons in the USAEC and NASA), and LBJ's Mason Lamar 8F gang in Houston. Such Mason involvements are further seen in the Warren Commissions make up with the English supporting Dulles connections, Mason Arlen Spector, Mason Ford, Mason Warren, all backed by bogus FBI information from Mason Hoover. imho

As the world figures out what has happened, the third war games that are now in progress will back-fire onto those blocking the ideals of FDR and JFK in their efforts to regain the ideals of the US Founding Father's ideas for a New World. The FDR New World Order views are totally opposed to the England want for "the Anglo-American cabal, based on looting and globalist one-world rule."

Once "the Anglo-American cabal, based on looting and globalist one-world rule" are exposed to the world, one can expect the world to change in correction for all the bogus and misleading information being supplied by this corrupt system of Crooks in the US and worldwide. imho

Citations:

Much is said of the great quarrel that pitted Roosevelt against Charles de Gaulle, which was real and violent, but became less traumatic after de Gaulle discovered the United States for himself in 1944, and the disagreement was finally resolved in a legitimate alliance for the development of all peoples, when de Gaulle supported Kennedy, the disciple of Roosevelt. That "Gaullism" and "Rooseveltism," despite the legitimate opposition of interests due to the national peculiarities of France and the United States, could converge upon a design of mutual economic development of the people of the world, and a rejection of the Anglo-American model, was ironically understood by Monnet, who, despite his own disagreements with de Gaulle, supported his return to power in 1958, because he was the only man capable of solving the French colonial mess in Algeria. The confirmation of what I have just said, was given, as a proof given by vice to virtue, by the assassins of the Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King, who were the same people who tried to murder de Gaulle, for the same oligarchical reasons.

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Roosevelt's great postwar design was to put an end to the British, French, Dutch, and Portuguese colonial empires, to make of the victory over Nazism an instrument for general liberation, and to organize a world community of interest based on infrastructural, long-term development, through issuance of long-term, low-interest credits, a sort of "deferred payments" system, in which the completion of projects would in the future allow the deferred, step-by-step reimbursement of the amount of credit advanced.

Roosevelt's sudden death, on April 12, 1945, prevented this grand design from being carried out. Only the Marshall Plan was left, in the framework of the Bretton Woods system, but limited to Western Europe, whereas Roosevelt had wanted it for the benefit of the whole world. Worse, where Roosevelt intended to rally Russia to his postwar new, just order, through the advantages of common development, the Marshall Plan was soon embroiled in the logic of the Cold War. The European leaders of today, who criticize the naiveté of Roosevelt and admire the "realism" later shown by Churchill and Truman, understand nothing about what was at stake back then. Roosevelt's vision, as we have described it, led him to respect the national sovereignty of states, and to uphold social justice for all men, while Churchill's, imperial and financial, was nothing more than that of the Anglo-American cabal, based on looting and globalist one-world rule, which Roosevelt had fought and temporarily won out over within the United States.

Source:

Lessons from FDR, to de Gaulle, to JFK, and beyond

edit on Sat Mar 1 2014 by DontTreadOnMe because: IMPORTANT: Using Content From Other Websites on ATS



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 08:27 AM
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Few realize that Jackie Kennedy became a "secret weapon" in JFK's alliances with France's de Gaulle and reigniting the FDR ideals that de Gaulle and JFK held sacred.

Jackie wowed de Gaulle with her French taste and knowledge and with that came huge de Gaulle and JFK alliances, which the Oligarchs hated.

Jackie managed to gain gigantic gestures from France, and helped JFK's alliances with France.

France's de Gaulle fixed the Algeria problem by setting them free. Charles de Gaulle also withdrew much help for the Dimona reactor, in the interests of not allowing nuclear proliferation. LBJ then allowed the Israel Proliferation, following the PERMINDEX interests, and even allowed special nuclear materials to be stolen from the US.

Citations:




Jackie however, wowed where her husband did not, and became a kind of “secret weapon” for her husband. Jackie quickly established a rapport with both de Gaulle and the celebrated French writer (and new cultural minister) Andre Malraux, with whom she would plant the seeds for her greatest cultural triumph as first lady. A year after the Kennedy’s trip to France, Malraux returned the favor, attending a state dinner in his honor. During a private tour of the National Gallery of Art, Jackie expressed her interest in bringing the Mona Lisa to America, allowing thousands of its citizens to see one of the crowning glories of France. Jackie again pressed her case at the formal dinner, and Malraux agreed to see what he could do. For several months, rumors swirled that the Mona Lisa and other classic works of art might soon be on their way to America. Finally, in September, France agreed to send just one work—the Mona Lisa.




Source:

Jackie and de Gaulle



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 08:53 AM
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Your link is to the Schiller Institute website. Which has been accused of peddling anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. And which is also tied to that total nutjob Lyndon LaRouche.
So the rest of us can be excused for sighing and walking away from your 'theories'. LaRouche? Seriously???



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 01:58 PM
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Unfortunately, the accounts of FDR's own son are very accurate and represented in many books and history sites.

FDR's directions against Churchill and England are very accurately represented. And that JFK and Joe Kennedy were clones of FDR in ideals and policy per dealing with the English, and the English problem being worse than the NAZIs. Which has proven very true.

Also, the French connections to FDR are accurate via Monnet. imho


That piece also exposes the dichotomy of the two New World Orders, one based upon FDR's visions from the Founding Fathers of the US and the other based upon the English version of Churchill's, one of imperial and financial exploitation of others, that was again that of the Anglo-American cabal and based upon looting and globalist one-world rule.

Understanding these two distinctions for the NWO is rather important for the world to grasp and be easily able to tell the differences.

The Americans kicked out the English Version of the NWO with the Revolution War, and Churchill even notes that FDR always returned to that effort for the world to have a rising tide that lifts all boats, as JFK would explain.

Which leaves your English based quip with no applause.



edit on 1-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: History is sometimes concealed, but when it comes out in full, it becomes factual accounts. imho



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 02:17 PM
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MagnumOpus
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Unfortunately, the accounts of FDR's own son are very accurate and represented in many books and history sites.

FDR's directions against Churchill and England are very accurately represented. And that JFK and Joe Kennedy were clones of FDR in ideals and policy per dealing with the English, and the English problem being worse than the NAZIs. Which has proven very true.

Also, the French connections to FDR are accurate via Monnet. imho

Which leaves your English based quip with no applause.



edit on 1-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: History is sometimes concealed, but when it comes out in full, it becomes factual accounts. imho


Are you seriously claiming that the UK is worse than the Nazis? Seriously? Seriously????
And I note that you have skipped the Lyndon LaRouche gibberish. Interesting. And finally I fail to see any explanation of the now-exploded Grand Plan by FDR to carve up the UK. Proving that you are admitting that you are wrong about it. Tut tut.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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The importance for understanding various dichotomies from history and politics, and how to apply those to the times of FDR and JFK:

An interesting issue is the Essene were a Mystery School type religious group based in Mt. Carmel, Dead Sea zone, and in Egypt as the Therapute. Their mystery school had degrees, and rights of passage, and most think it was three degree levels and some tell four. The Masons sought to emulate this in their Blue Lodge issues, but the Mason's Oaths of Death was not a value from the Essene.

Just like Jesus spoke in parables, many of the Masons speak in allegory and symbolism. In the times of George Washington, the thoughts of Masons were against the Kings and Queens methods of Oligarchic power. The roots for this Oligarchic issue stem literally from ancient religion and the times of Nimrod and Semiramis. Their version was Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which was inserted over the Essene version to alter those of the Royal Blood line into becoming more Nimrods and Semiramis types in their efforts to control and lead.


One of the first important items to grasp is that of the Bible accounts from Roman times that inserted the wrong concepts for Trinity, which led to Kings and Queens being the new versions of Nimrod and Semiramis.

Such discovery played a role in the issues of Adam Weiskopf's 1776 Illuminati:

Basic Trinity Enlightenment


The next important thing to notice is that affected England and all Nobelist's claims of rights to rule using religion from Rome. Both Protestant and Vatican claims has problems due to abuse of the Trinity Concept.


In the times of the Founding Fathers, this made the New World Visions for America. Thomas Jefferson also wrote the Jefferson Bible that made good use of the Mason training to decode the Bible's various allegory speak into better versions of reality. Some claim that Jefferson was not a Mason, yet Masonic Bibles claim Thomas Jefferson was indeed a Mason.

In these times most of the US Masons were on the correct track and themes and making wise decisions.


Obviously that went totally against the Royalists and Nobelists versions of their rights to rule, and the US did separate Govt. from religion.


The highest sign for the Masons is the old emblem of the Czars of Russia and that was the Double Headed Eagle symbol, which gets again back to rights to rule from Nobelists. And indeed one finds in the Civil War that the South was so aligned with England that the Scottish Rite Masons popped up under Mason Albert Pike to have the South Rise again and side with England's wealth methods.


When one gets to the times of the Civil Rights, one finds the Black Prince Hall Masons using Masonry to gain advantages over the White Scottish Rite Masons. George Wallace was a Black Rights hating Mason, and allied with HL Hunt and Mason Clint Murchinson in Texas.

Texas was literally built and claimed by Masons as a Republic of Texas taken from Mexico. The Lamar 8F gang in Houston is named for a Mason that was the Third President of the Republic of Texas. This is what gave Bobby Baker, LBJ, Hoover and other much control over US Govt.


There is a dichotomy of Masons and there are some that can hold the values of the Constitution's founds and an example was FDR. FDR had huge plans to have the world experience that a rising tide worldwide would lift all boats and with that the loss of wars and gain of global equality. It would quash the system and have and have not's that the Empires sought to exploit others and keep them dumb and poor. There is the opposing side of Masons that dislike Blacks, want the Old South Back, and wanted wars to push for the oligarchic control over the world using the Royalists methods of Nimrods and Semiramis.


The system that JFK wanted was one much like FDR's visions sought and using the war as a way to corner the Royalists and force them to give up their ways of exploitation of others world wide, using economic and other methods of leverage for gains.


JFK went hard against the Dulles boys that backed the English Oligarch methods. JFK went hard against the economic control methods of the US via Federal Reserve and was going to screw the English Bankers just as Abe Lincoln planned on the loans of those times.


JFK found himself in a Civil Rights war with people killing people and blowing up houses and all sorts of basic terrorism methods that came from those still angry over the Civil War, and the Scottish Rite Masons were the ant-Black rights battle leadership in the South. Such shows up with the Southern Dichotomy of Prince Hall Masons not being allowed to Joint the White Only Scottish Rite Masons of the apartheid South.


It is only simple history that the Nobelist interests of the Scottish Rite would come out hard against the JFK Civil Rights issues, and that the issues of Communism were of concern to these Money Changers of Royalist Nobility. If this faction could rile the US Citizens with scare methods and hate tactics, they would be able to force a harder line against Communist Expansion.

Thus, came the Dulles CIA out to kill people, which was not a part of their charter under Truman. JFK discovered that one. Then the Hungarian European CIA moved against JFK French Pal de Gaulle and tried to kill him repeatedly. Then the same PERMINDEX gang comes into the US via Ferenc Nagy, Clay Shaw, Jean de Menil, and even DISC controls from Louis Bloomfield and Hoover's FBI protecting them.


The Scottish Rite Masons ran the LHO controller Guy Banister and he and his other Mason brothers were funding PERMINDEX, to get around the CIA and JFK's efforts to shut them down on Castro.


So, one has to consider the CIA clone in the US in the form of PERMINDEX and its wide access to the US Govt intelligence methods and people. One has to consider that the Southern Scottish Rite Masons were highly backing this organization because it was extremely anti-Communist and fought hard against Empire Colonial states going to Communism as did Vietnam and Algeria for France.

The very leadership of PERMINDEX was involved in the Hungarian Revolution when Hungary fell to Russia, becoming a protection zone for Russia against the ideals of the Nobility Royalist's want to Kings and Queens to own and exploit the world economically, while keeping the world dumb and subservient to them.


The largest faction behind the killing of JFK was the allied connections of the Southern Scottish Rite masons and their basical alliances with the Royalists and that hate that existed for FDR, then transferred to JFK as JFK was going what FDR had intended to do if he had not died a convenient death to save the English and European Nobelists from being taken apart from being able to control any parts of the world with wars and economic controls.



When we come full circle and back to the times of John on the Roman Prison Island of Patmos, we find more of the old mystery school's allegorical language to express the changes that this would cause for the world as it built and the inequities become so extreme to be termed a Beast. Terms like Horns are used and in the Essene terms these are Horns of Plenty, meaning huge Nimrod based societies that formed using Nimrod and Semiramis claims to power and in the present time meaning those of Empire's Kings and Queens.

Other terms were of Horses with White or Black and the White Horse would be those aligned with the purity of the Essene, which was much like the values of the Founding Fathers, FDR, and JFK. Others were dark horses that were based upon the methods of Hunters of Men or Wars and the gains of Empire using King and Queens like Nimrod and Semiramis designs for huge power over populations.


Many get deeply into the JFK assassination because much of what he faced rings true from those understanding the forecasts of John of Patmos and his allegorical writings that expressed what would happen from the dichotomy methods of altering truth for the want of power and money.


But, using the greater understanding of these old forecasts applied to the present allows most to see the that those forecasts were not so hard to predict, and have essentially come true. The problem these days is the Scofield Bible misleads people and fails to note these ways of understanding the allegorical writing methods that predict the mess we have today in the world.

Both FDR and JFK saw ways around this mess, and the Founding Fathers of America put it on a course to fix these issues, but the methods of control over religion slows this correction toward the truth, corrupted religion for the English wants of wars, more money, more control and exploitation.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 04:05 PM
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Nice try at distracting us there sparkey, with a torrent of baseless conjecture and threadbare theories. By the way, buy a dictionary - there's no such word as 'nobelist'.
Now lets get back to your ridiculous claim that the UK was/is worse than Nazi Germany. Where did you get that fascinating claim from? Are you seriously saying that Hitler was better than Churchill? Because if you are then you'd better be able to defend such a ludicrous position.
(And by the way - I want an apology from you about wasting our time with the claim that FDR was going to break up the UK. Baseless.)



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