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The JFK assassination---The Big Event made Simple---50 years is long enough!

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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 10:14 AM
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I think that sourcing your own blog as proof of anything is intellectually dishonest.

If there was any substance to your fantasy, there would be better sources. Since there isn't, you use garbage for sources. In effect, you made it all up.




posted on Feb, 18 2014 @ 07:19 AM
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Another gem article on the JFK hit as it associates with HL Hunt. HL Hunt's former aide tells various issues about how the Dallas Police were checked to be able to use Ruby to kill LHO. And the abundance of money Hunt was tossing around.

Citation:




JFK Assassins Got $$ From Kennedy-Hating
John F. Kennedy was assassinated by men who received money from the late
billionaire H.L. Hunt, claims the former number one aide to the Texas oil tycoon.
.But, said John W. Curington — Hunt's special assistant for 12 years — Hunt did
mastermind asterraina the killing. "It was a mistake. Right-wing Hunt followers knew he hated
Kennedy and they thought they were doing what Hunt wanted."
Breaking his silence for the first time in an exclusive ENQUIRER interview, Curington linked
Hunt to key figures in the assassination with these startling revelations:
• The day before Lee Harvey Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby at Dallas police headquarters, Hunt
ordered Curington to spy on police security surrounding Oswald — and was "elated" to learn it was lax.
• Several weeks after JFK's death, Oswald's wife Marina was seen leaving the elevator that served
Hunt's executive office.
• Later, the billionaire confided to top aides that he knew there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy.
None of these facts has ever been brought to light despite years of
probing by the FBI, Secret Service, police, Congressional committees
and the Warren Commission.

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To back up his belief, Curington re-'
cently turned over to the FBI a copy
of a letter that he's convinced was
written by Oswald to H.L. Hunt. After
questioning Curington for several
hours, the FBI made the letter public.
The handwritten letter — dated Nov.
8, 1963.



Source:

The HL Hunt Inside Story



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 04:41 AM
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Other excellent readings on those behind the "Big Event":


Reagan---The Mason Manly P. Hall Worshiper:

Citations:




Ronald Reagan Was Follower Of Occult Guru Manly P. Hall, New Book Says

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Ronald Reagan first told the odd story, without attributing it to Hall, in the 1957 commencement speech he delivered at his alma mater, Eureka College. He repeated it in a 1981 essay, written in his own hand on a yellow legal pad, for Parade Magazine, Horowitz recalls.

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The revelations caused a minor scandal for Ronald Reagan at the time as observers wondered whether national security could have been compromised by his fascination with the occult as the video below explains.




Source:

Reagan and Manly P Hall worshiping



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The FBI files on Milteer and Jack Ruby


More Johnson and Masons subterfuge History


It was Johnson and Masons that killed JFK



edit on 25-2-2014 by MagnumOpus because: URL tune up



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 07:01 AM
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Here is a link explaining why your source is wrong. I hope you take the time to read AND understand it.

I hate to see such a fine researcher as yourself get trapped by lies and bad source information.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 04:13 PM
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That didn't change much, as the source for the start of WWI telling the Masons were behind it was independent of that.

Plus, the sources that tell that Churchill, Hoover, and FDR were the Masons behind dragging the US into WWII were also independent of that.

And, the sources on the Scofield Bible and its Oxford connection and Mason funding that has the US in a battle with Islam is also independent.

So, your basic complaint about the Masons being behind these problems is backed up totally independently of your little distraction. imho



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 09:49 PM
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So you are against the US having gone to war with the Nazis and Hitler?



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 10:31 PM
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JFK WAS KILLED FOR BREAKING THE ILLUMINATI OATH-----SWORN TO SECRECY---HE WAS GOING TO DO 2 THINGS THAT WOULDVE HAD HIM KILLED--

TAKING THE MONEY AWAY FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE NO NO NUMBER 1 AND DISCLOSING EXTRATERRESTIAL CONTACT TO THE PUBLIC----NO NO NUMBER 2-------BIGGER CONSPIRAC WASNT HE SHOT 2 TIMES LOL-------YO THOSE BULLETS SHATTERED HIS HEAD-------



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 04:35 AM
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What I think isn't what was/is important. The American Public was non-interventionist, isolationist, which meant they didn't want to get in the war with England and Hitler. America was more than willing to watch the blood-letting from afar, and not have their Sons and Daughters blood let on foreign soils.


So, Mason treachery and deceit was used to run over American isolationist wishes. Americans were following Thomas Jefferson's ideals.


And how Mason FDR got around that began when Mason Churchill contacted Mason Hoover to set up a contact with Mason FDR. FDR set up the Pacific Fleet for the Japan attack and that pulled enough American interest to drag the US into WWII.

The English Masons were so upset with Joe Kennedy because he predicted that England would fall to Hitler in a few weeks, so FDR recalled Joe Kennedy from Ambassador to England.


In large part, that set the stage for why JFK was killed-----because he was going anti-Mason. JFK took out Mason Dulles. JFK was sighted in Mason Lamar 8F gang when they went after Bobby Baker and LBJ. Mason Hoover was next in the JFK sights.


Then we find this interesting quotation, which bears the allegorical methods of Masons

One of the quotes that JFK likely didn't make in public, but JFK was certainly on the trail of the Masons in high office that have taken the US down the low road of being taken over from within.

The quote below has not been verified in any way to be at NYC's Columbia University, but it has an allegorical sense that Masons tend to pick up on that involves Columbia and higher learning:




“The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American’s freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight” -John F. Kennedy Excerpt from speech given at Columbia University 10 days before his assassination.





When one learns the Founding Fathers were Masons, but they connected with a special group that were influenced by Illuminati type thinking and they were called "Colombians" or "Colombian Faction"

What has happened since that Founder's time, is the original founders thoughts have gotten lost, and a good deal of corruption and infiltration has occurred to drift off the founder's message and original inspirations.

This alleged quote makes sense as the Colombians, as in the District of Colombia, would for the founding father's ideals that came to form the Independent States of America from the Adam Weiskopf ideas on religion being high-jacked from its original story also.

Citation:




There is what is called the "Colombian" faction of the Illuminati which came over to America early on. The documents that were recovered in Germany showed that the symbol for the Illuminati society was the PYRAMID and the EYE IN THE CAPSTONE as shown on the back of the ONE-DOLLAR BILL.



Source:

Columbian Faction


The Bottom Line is there are very good reasons for why the US was formed in 1776 and the Adam Weiskpf deal was also founded in 1776. There were and are problems in religion, and the separation of church and state are a grand idea to keep down soaking the lands in blood as they do in Europe over religious wars due to the corruptions in religion.


edit on 26-2-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Religious wars based on false Trinity.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 04:41 AM
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JFK was killed for going Anti-Mason. JFK took out corrupt Mason Allen Dulles for overstepping the power of the CIA as set by Truman.


JFK was going to take down the Mason themed Lamar 8F gang in Houston, that was the leadership of the Mil / Ind network. JFK and RFK were just days from exposing Bobby Baker and LBJ in Life Magazine, which would have tossed both of them in jail and gotten LBJ off the JFK re-election ticket.

JFK also took on the Masonic Federal Reserve Bankers of Europe, which would put the US back in control of their money.

Plus, JFK had the ultra Masonic Crook Hoover in their sights for getting out of the FBI.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 05:04 AM
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MagnumOpus
reply to post by network dude
 


That didn't change much, as the source for the start of WWI telling the Masons were behind it was independent of that.

Plus, the sources that tell that Churchill, Hoover, and FDR were the Masons behind dragging the US into WWII were also independent of that.

And, the sources on the Scofield Bible and its Oxford connection and Mason funding that has the US in a battle with Islam is also independent.

So, your basic complaint about the Masons being behind these problems is backed up totally independently of your little distraction. imho


Please explain how Churchill got the USA into the Second World War. Because as far as I was aware the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour, not the British. Children know this.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 05:06 AM
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MagnumOpus
reply to post by KSigMason
 


What I think isn't what was/is important. The American Public was non-interventionist, isolationist, which meant they didn't want to get in the war with England and Hitler. America was more than willing to watch the blood-letting from afar, and not have their Sons and Daughters blood let on foreign soils.


So, Mason treachery and deceit was used to run over American isolationist wishes. Americans were following Thomas Jefferson's ideals.


And how Mason FDR got around that began when Mason Churchill contacted Mason Hoover to set up a contact with Mason FDR. FDR set up the Pacific Fleet for the Japan attack and that pulled enough American interest to drag the US into WWII.

The English Masons were so upset with Joe Kennedy because he predicted that England would fall to Hitler in a few weeks, so FDR recalled Joe Kennedy from Ambassador to England.


In large part, that set the stage for why JFK was killed-----because he was going anti-Mason. JFK took out Mason Dulles. JFK was sighted in Mason Lamar 8F gang when they went after Bobby Baker and LBJ. Mason Hoover was next in the JFK sights.


Then we find this interesting quotation, which bears the allegorical methods of Masons

One of the quotes that JFK likely didn't make in public, but JFK was certainly on the trail of the Masons in high office that have taken the US down the low road of being taken over from within.

The quote below has not been verified in any way to be at NYC's Columbia University, but it has an allegorical sense that Masons tend to pick up on that involves Columbia and higher learning:




“The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American’s freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight” -John F. Kennedy Excerpt from speech given at Columbia University 10 days before his assassination.





When one learns the Founding Fathers were Masons, but they connected with a special group that were influenced by Illuminati type thinking and they were called "Colombians" or "Colombian Faction"

What has happened since that Founder's time, is the original founders thoughts have gotten lost, and a good deal of corruption and infiltration has occurred to drift off the founder's message and original inspirations.

This alleged quote makes sense as the Colombians, as in the District of Colombia, would for the founding father's ideals that came to form the Independent States of America from the Adam Weiskopf ideas on religion being high-jacked from its original story also.

Citation:




There is what is called the "Colombian" faction of the Illuminati which came over to America early on. The documents that were recovered in Germany showed that the symbol for the Illuminati society was the PYRAMID and the EYE IN THE CAPSTONE as shown on the back of the ONE-DOLLAR BILL.



Source:

Columbian Faction


The Bottom Line is there are very good reasons for why the US was formed in 1776 and the Adam Weiskpf deal was also founded in 1776. There were and are problems in religion, and the separation of church and state are a grand idea to keep down soaking the lands in blood as they do in Europe over religious wars due to the corruptions in religion.


edit on 26-2-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Religious wars based on false Trinity.


Sorry but total honk. The lot of it. (Rolls eyes)



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 05:46 AM
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It has already been covered in great detail. So, use Google or just go back to sleep!


So far you are the embodiment of ignorance, which ATS is supposed to go against!! imho
edit on 26-2-2014 by MagnumOpus because: There isn't a cure for ignorance of some, so one moves on for the benefit of the more intelligent. imho



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 05:53 AM
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You did tell us you were from London, which profits from the "City of London" and usury.

You are the same ilk as Piers Morgan------the US is ignoring him also. His British games are getting tossed out of the US.

The US is still very much against the English Nobelist, and even against the Czarist Double Eagle crowd, and unless the English stop trying to game the US----nuclear weapons can settle the debate of English Masons trying to run the US via subterfuge.

Don't think for a second that the US National Security system doesn't know all these factors, and one nuke into the "City of London" and England can become a new Soviet state courtesy of the US. imho


The division of England needs to continue, as Ireland, Scotland, Wales all separate from London.

Then the FDR idea of breaking up England will be complete and the world will discover why Stalin believed the Churchill gang killed FDR.


FDR and Stalin became great buddies and they gave Churchill the cold shoulder, and Stalin told they killed FDR the same way they were trying to kill Stalin. It was a replay of the kill Castro, which turned into kill JFK. Little difference in Mason history. imho

edit on 26-2-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Time for England to disappear as a state. imho



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 06:42 AM
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Erm, you do know that Stalin was a paranoid megalomaniac and that FDR had high blood pressure and coronary heart disease don't you? And I think you mean "Great Britain" rather than "England", because Wales and Scotland are not parts of England. By the way what FDR plan to break up the UK? Any proof for that? At all?
I thought not.
Oh and now you claim that the US is going to nuke the UK over some non-existent masonic conspiracy. Paranoid much?



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 07:03 AM
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It would be cool if masons had 1/10th of the power you ascribe to them. Masonry as a group is not capable of anything on a grand scale. Now, some politicians who happen to be masons might be able to meet and plot just about anything, but they could not use masonry as a vehicle to do anything nefarious. We have simple rules about what we can and cannot do in lodge and those rules do not change. They have been that way since before America was America.

I believe Kennedy was killed by more than Oswald. I believe there was a conspiracy in place and it most likely was Bush Sr. and his group at the planning table.

JFK was not going to be quiet and tow the party line as is expected of the president. He made it clear he was going to try to enact the change he wanted. As you can see plainly by Obama, you don't do that, you do what your told. Just as Bush Jr did. That's why they both look the same in their actions. (other than Obama being a Chicago gangster and acting like that when he wants to be a thug)

If you are serious about trying to find the truth, stop typing for a few days, and do some honest research into what masonry really is. Once you understand it and you can stop trying to tie everything into something it simply cannot be, then you may be able to find some real answers and some real direction.

It's nice when you actually communicate with the people in your thread instead of just post more fluffy garbage.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 08:34 AM
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Yeah---did you Google it----or do you need you silver spoon and nanny to do that?



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 08:37 AM
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You don't have a clue about the Southern US Scottish Rite Masons and that history part of the US.

Plus, English Masons love to cover up for the Albert Pike Masons that screw the US.

So, nobody with any common sense believes a Mason. imho

The history is out there regardless of your want of blindness and need to keep Americans ignorant of how corrupt Masons can become.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 08:48 AM
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MagnumOpus
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You don't have a clue about the Southern US Scottish Rite Masons and that history part of the US.

I am an active 32nd degree mason in the Southern Jurisdiction of Scottish Rite Freemasonry. I'd be willing to bet I have more of a clue than you ever will. Understand the structure of masonry, and you will come to the epiphany that masons don't control anything.


Plus, English Masons love to cover up for the Albert Pike Masons that screw the US.

You have just shown that you know nothing of Pike other than what you are told to believe by anti masons sites.
It's ok, you aren't alone. Lots of folks are afraid to read and understand him. usually because their church tells them not to.


So, nobody with any common sense believes a Mason. imho

whatever. Nobody with any sense lumps all masons into the same group. We are just men. All different.



The history is out there regardless of your want of blindness and need to keep Americans ignorant of how corrupt Masons can become.


Yes, and it's a damn shame you willfully ignore the parts that don't fit your agenda. You don't have to like the history, but you cannot change it. It already happened.
edit on 26-2-2014 by network dude because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 08:50 AM
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MagnumOpus
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Yeah---did you Google it----or do you need you silver spoon and nanny to do that?


Aha - the above explains everything - you think in stereotypes! Sorry to disappoint you, but I never had a nanny. And I'm still not English, neither am I a mason.
Right, let's get back to the drivel that you posted. Sorry, but 'drivel' is the best description for it. There is no evidence, in any way shape or form, that FDR was planning to break up the UK. Not a thing. Not even a tale about how he got drunk one night and dribbled such a plan into the ear of anyone listening. So that takes care of that.
As for Churchill killing FDR, you're referencing Stalin again, who is hardly a reliable source. The man was a paranoid twit and FDR had polio and then later heart disease, which was diagnosed in the middle of the war. Did you read that bit? Let me repeat it: HE HAD HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND CORONARY HEART DISEASE WHICH WAS DIAGNOSED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WAR. Let me know if you can't read that bit, I'll embed a .wav file of it. His death was sad but hardly a surprise. The man worked himself to death during the War.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 09:10 AM
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It is really easy for anyone that can run Google to discover the FDR war with England, as even his father applied the same ideas. Even Pre-preschoolers can find this easily in the US. The English try to conceal this issue, because it supports they killed FDR.

This is the reason that Stalin told that FDR was killed by the Churchill Gang, as FDR wanted England's Imperialism taken apart all over the world.


The Bottom Line was the FDR trusted Stalin more than Churchill and England, and FDR so worked over Churchill that the Churchill Masons wanted FDR dead and Truman put in place. The Churchill Masons had been trying to poison Stalin for some time, and when FDR died suddenly Stalin knew where to look.

It was not very much different than the CIA Masons trying to kill Castro, then failing that, turning to kill JFK.

Citation:




The Other War:
FDR's Battle Against Churchill and the British Empire

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The crux of his disagreement with his own nominal country, the United States, he told his audience, was the basic dispute in policy and philosophy between ``Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, reflecting our different histories.'' Roosevelt, Kissinger stated, had condemned Churchill as being ``needlessly obsessed with power politics, too rigidly anti-Soviet, too colonialist in his attitude to what is now called the Third World, and too little interested in building the fundamentally new international order towards which American idealism had always tended.''

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The British ambassador, Lord Halifax, cabled London that Roosevelt was a ``liar'' and no friend of the British; the American President, he said, was leading a crusade against the British Empire and everything it stood for. Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden, who had come to Washington for talks, cabled Churchill that the Roosevelt position ``contemplates the dismantling of the British and Dutch empires....''

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As Churchill fumed, Roosevelt was refining his views on the mechanisms for the transition from the Versailles colonial order to a new order of independence, freedom, and development. He expressed concerns about how to guard the peoples of the colonial world from further exploitation at the hands of the British and other imperialists. But it were not possible to set the colonies free without adequate preparation, or their peoples would be set up for exploitation by other, indirect means.

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``I was told,'' his son reports the President as stating, ``six years ago, to clean out that State Department. It's like the British Foreign Office....''

``I'll take care of these matters myself,'' was Roosevelt's now usual response on matters of crucial policy. ``I am the only person I can trust.''

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Roosevelt believed that he could sell this vision to both Stalin and Chiang; if he could do that, Churchill and the British could be dragged kicking and screaming into the new order.



Source:

FDR's war against Churchill and England



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