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That was the lifeform
originally posted by: mirageman
In this short clip he explains how the people on duty were surprised to see him but Halt was not. The blue lights had been flying around for hours and then Colonel Halt tells John he thinks he can bring 'the ship and these things' closer.
Then Bustinza goes with him and they see three blue lights. Halt claims they were speaking to him.
The huge stumbling block here is that this is hypnosis. Something I do not consider reliable. But food for thought.
As soon as I read the Penniston hypnosis transcript, or at least the short extract that’s available to read online, I saw a flaw.
Notwithstanding the arguments about temporal paradoxes and the laws of physics, time travel – even in fiction – doesn’t work this way. These time travellers are telling Penniston that they have come back 40 or 50,000 years in order to have the least effect on the timeline. Nonsense. The further back you go, the greater the effect could be. One person could have spawned millions of descendants in 50,000 years, which means if you interfere with the life of that one person, you alter the course of the lives of all those descendants as well. It’s called the ‘butterfly effect’.
If these time travellers are real, I doubt they would adhere to such obviously faulty logic.
If Penniston’s hypnosis revelations sound like the plot of a movie, it could be that that’s exactly where they came from. Less than a year before Penniston’s hypnosis, a TV movie called Official Denial was broadcast on the Sci Fi Channel. The plot featured an alien craft landing in a forest, occupied by creatures who had come to Earth to obtain genetic material to help save their dying race. The twist ending was that these creatures were not aliens at all. They were evolved humans who had travelled back in time.
The similarities between Official Denial and Penniston’s account of the Rendlesham Forest Incident under hypnosis were not limited to the plot details. Penniston’s words almost mimicked lines of dialogue from the film. At one point near the end of the film, a character says, “They’re not aliens. They’re us. From the future. Our future.”
To my knowledge, none of the witnesses have a conscious memory of ‘telepathic lights’ (?)
”I don’t believe there were ever 30-40 people in the forest. There were over 40 people on duty and were listening to the radio traffic. ”
”Also on halts night the 3rd night again nothing had crashed i.e. no fire personnel. ”
”When I got out there on Sat night there was light-alls in a clearing and Halt team was past where we first had our encounter. I know Halt knew where our site was because he went to the site that Friday morning. I also know they were looking at a site on the tape before his encounter with the beams of light beaming at his feet and the lights braking into pieces by the farmers house which is if I remember right is where he stated his site was. ”
”Halt was the highest ranking when I got out there. England was the highest SP Ziegler never came out on anything. Druery OPS officer was not out there when I was there. Armold was a Airmen like me and did not meet up with Halts party he stayed with the light-alls that’s as far as he got. Bustinza was with Halts party and went with me when I ran towards it. MSgt Gulius also might have been out there. ”
“Chris [Armold] was with me and one other person who he did'nt even come close to getting the name right. We were in the back in the stageing area until Halt team allowed us to meet up with them towards the end.”
”There was a blue light over Bentwaters and one out over the coast. But the one I saw first was the one that shot down at us which is the one I think put a beams of light at Halts feet. There was radio traffic that something was coming at us then it shot down at us in the clearing past us and the light-alls making them go on and off and through a pickup truck window and back up into the sky.”
” I was told by Halt when I met up with them that something landed the third night and by Bustinza also. ”
”He never said what landed just something landed he then pointed up in the sky and showed me the blue lights that were flying around. As we watched them that’s when we saw one of them beam lights inside the storage area and the radio traffic went nuts. After that something then appeared in the distance which is what Bustinza and I went after. ”
”As far as the WSA goes I was with Halt and we could see the beams of light going down into the area and we could and this is where the tape comes in could hear everything going on inside the area as it was happening. We could not see the area but we could see the lights going done in the area it was and could hear what was going on. ”
”Bustinza was with Halts party when I met up with them and he and I then went towards whatever it was!!!”
”We both could see it and it was white yellow red and blue. ”
”Whatever it was came over me the white oranges light and then exploded with several blue light coming out of it! This came from Adrian who was behind me laying on the ground watching this happen! ”
”Bustinza and I were running together and he fell down and I kept running. As I was getting close to it all of a sudden it was gone and I was just standing in the field. I don’t know what happened. Bustinza told me he was knocked down and held down afterwards he stated he could not stand up until after whatever it was was gone and I was standing alone in the field. Halts party was behind us several hundred yards. Halt was the one who stated down the line that I was on top of something Bustinza said that I disappeared into it. I have no idea what happened. ”
”Everthing was handled differently from Sunday night on when the C-5 came in and that is when the road blocks and everything else went on in the forest”
”It came in on Sunday night right after Sat night. On Monday night Tues night and Wed night I was posted on the East gate from 3-11. Gate was usually closed at 6 but left was opened because there was all kinds of activity going on in the woods. ”
”They [the C5 crew] ran their own show and from what I was told they had their own equipment and vehicles.... ”
”I saw it land and it was not a exchange plane to include the way it was secured. I was also posted on the east gate while the people from the plane were out in the forest. Also it was stated that what was stored in the area was effected. ”
”My instruction were not to call anything in on the radio if anything happened just use the phone. There was allot of helicopters flying out over the area and they had some vehicles that were going into the woods.”
”There are things that happened that cannot be talked about to this day because of what was stored there and what happened. ”
”But what I will say is Halt talked about the C-5 for the first time when we were filming strange but true. He also stated that a team came in to check on codes in hot row.”
”The only thing I know is Halt said the beams effected the codes on the munitions... ”
Where were the enthusiasts and experts at that time? Where was Nick Pope??? Surely it would be reasonable to assume that questions by Nick to Jim, Linda etc would have started.
Jim Penniston: They are asking me if I see binary code? I see the binary code. They are time travelers....They are us.
Hypnotherapist: HOW FAR IN THE FUTURE?
Jim Penniston: A long time. Very long time.
WHAT DO THEY NEED?
Not sure, but it has to do with chromosomes? Or something like that.
HOW DO THEY GET THAT?
They take it.
From the other people's bodies....They (the time travelers) were interrupted (in Rendlesham Forest). They are having problems...The odds are against them.
YOU TOUCHED THE SYMBOLS. YOU DISRUPTED THE REPAIR PROGRAM?
I activated a binary code. The two (NSA Agents) men want to know why....They ask me if I ever had any other encounters with them (lights and time travelers)?...I haven't
ARE THEY USING US SOMETHING LIKE BREEDING STOCK?
No. Like Band-Aids.
DO THEY EVER TAKE FETUSES?
If it is tasked, they do. There are different ships for tasking. The government agents know about this....That's why they want to contain the situation.
THEY SEE YOU AS (REQUIRING) DAMAGE CONTROL?
(Yes), they see me and John Burroughs and they're worried about Col, Halt. They know all about us.
DOES THE GOVERNMENT BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THEM COMING FROM THE FUTURE?
Oh yes...This time they (time travelers) were having problems, but they got their machine off. They have to be in space to travel. They need speed to travel.
TO TRAVEL THROUGH TIME?
To go backwards. They can't go forward
THEY CAN'T GO INTO THEIR FUTURE?
They go to their past. It's impossible to go to the future. It takes too much energy.
HOW FAR INTO THE PAST CAN THEY GO?
These ships can go forty or fifty thousand years. They can't go back much further. They might not get back.
WHY DO THEY COME BACK SO FAR?
So it doesn't affect the time line. The farther it is, the better, the least affect it has on changing the future....They can't control it. It's too cumbersome.
WHAT ARE THE INTELLIGNECE AGENTS (NSA AGENTS) GOING TO DO WITH YOU?
They tell me when I was the East Gate with John, they have five different stories to tell. It's important to scramble dates (which confuses and undermines consistency of eyewitness testimonies so no credibility with public and media)
......They're going to give me warning....They tell me that I will hurt the world. It will breach national security and can destroy the system, cause wars, chaos in the streets. That's why it's important to keep it quiet. (But)...it doesn't make any difference if I talk about the story...It's too unbelievable.
Source : www.therendleshamforestincident.com...
a reply to: mirageman
Plus the binary codes were not logged in a book. Below is what Jim said about them.