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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Marylongstockings
I gave up on Gary Osborn after reading a page of his website (years ago) . He had absolutely no idea of punctuation, grammar or sentence construction. This made his website too difficult to follow. Which makes me wonder how the hell the guy is supposed to be writing a book.
So can you explain what 23.5 means?
I had to smile at the first part about my writing skills, especially seeing as I have had three books published and I am married to an English Professor who rates my writing skills highly (one of the reasons why she was attracted to me in the first place). She says that yes, my writing is detailed and complex, but she likes it that way as it’s how writing should be and that's a good thing as I am not writing for kindergartners . . .
In fact, the way in which I write actually expresses the way I receive my insights – which are the result of an awakening/enlightenment experience I had in 93, which is why my sentences are often overloaded with information; it’s as if I am trying to express the connections all at once – just like my experience. It's just the way I write sometimes, as the insights often come to me while I'm writing. Perhaps you’re too “obtuse” to see that.
In any case, I really take no offense – but I will keep in mind that this is the assessment of someone who doesn't even know the significance of "23.5," which I guess I will have to explain . . .
23.5 is a degree value and happens to be the all-round, obliquity angle of the Earth's axis in degrees, as cited in most geophysical text books - even though the true angle is 23.44*.
Now, I noticed that the woman calling herself "Marylongstockings" couldn't answer your question as to what "23.5" is or means. She was in a relationship with Jim Penniston and lived with him for awhile. Jim told me that he realised she was snooping around his place, gathering information to debunk the RFI and the binary code. He says he also suspected that she was being funded by someone or some group to do this and that's why he kicked her out.
Now, the thing is she was present during my first email exchanges with Jim Penniston while I was passing Jim my initial findings on the seven coordinates from the code (this was between February and April 2011 . . . over 5 years ago).
I have to say that I am a little concerned about this, as it is clear that SHE STILL DOES NOT KNOW what "23.5" is, and means, even though I have explained it to her numerous times. However, this is an example of how she conducts her research; it is all over the place and she goes around in circles because she clearly cannot see the connections between things.
So, that's what we are dealing with here . . . people who clearly have no idea what they are talking about.
AND, you’re wrong to say that I research “New Age.” In fact, I try to keep away from the so-called “new age” interpretations of the subjects and information I research, which originally began with me trying to understand the experience I had, and there’s nothing wrong with that. And I’m certainly not into “woo woo.” That’s for naïve people who need something to believe in. My work often involves deciphering codes, and I prefer to work with geometry and mathematics – actually ‘ontological mathematics’ – and the math doesn’t lie. At the same time, my views are always balanced, and this means I look at everything rationally and intuitively and I always remain objective. So, if you’re going to “pigeonhole” me, then I would prefer you do so under the ‘Myers-Briggs personality types,’ as that’s quite acceptable. Look up ‘INTJ.’
If I appear "condescending," that's because I intended to be, as that's how you come across in your posts "mirageman."
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
I agree. It has become a ufological cliche along with how primitive and warlike we humans are. How we need to achieve a higher level of spirituality. Why we are too dumb to invent stuff ourselves and had to have a helping alien hand.
So too the nuclear attraction.
A few years ago Stanton Friedman was spouting his usual claims on a radio show. Fortunately listener questions were being taken by email. So I asked, given his position as nuclear physicist, how the aliens would have spotted the atomic tests and bombs. Given that the light from such blasts takes 4 years to reach the nearest star then what exactly was involved to get them to crash land at Roswell?
He got quite irritated by it and began to talk bullocks as well.
originally posted by: mirageman
Enough of this frivolity.
I keep asking questions of Halt's decisions in Rendlesham, and refusal to do more than take a walk in the fores,t whilst lights are buzzing over head and supposedly beaming down onto his bases.
CH: You’re aware that the story you’ve told or the stories you’ve told over the years don’t fit in with what I recollect and other witnesses recollect.
LW: And yet I have statements from other guys that were right next to me at certain elements of this thing
CH: Where did the story come from that, number one, Gordon Williams was there? Gordon Williams was at another social function that night, I know he was.
LW: Well, I know, but I…
CH: Where did the little green men come from?
LW: They weren’t green (laughs)
CH: Or whatever.
LW: They weren’t green and there was something there that was alive. There was this…
CH: There are two nights that are intertwined now, you’re aware of that?
CH: You have events from the first night and the third night intertwined together, which is very puzzling
PR: What are the events that are intertwined?
CH: The actual confrontation with a craft or whatever you want to call it…
PR: You don’t feel there were several…
CH: No, no.
PR: Oh, you don’t.
CH: None of the witnesses that I’ve talked to from the third night say there was anything physical they could catch other than lights.
CH: Gordon Williams said: “Call me the next time, I want to be there, too.” Several weeks later, one of the law-enforcement types though he saw something.
LW: That was a friend of mine, Steve LaPlume.
CH: No, it was staff sergeant Wendel Palmer – he called law enforcement and they called me. I had a little orange Triumph at the time, and I went right out the back gate at Bentwaters. Williams was right behind me but he had to go around because he had the staff car. By the time I got there, there was nothing.
Palmer said we had to call it in. he said that we were told if we saw anything odd to report it in.
Very soon after Colonel Halt showed up. I reported the post safe and secure and proceeded to tell him what happened.
After the arrival of Col. Halt, the stream of officers and higher ranking personnel kept coming. There was the Deputy Base commander, I believe of Woodbridge base who brought his wife and teen-aged son. Eventually, the recently promoted General Williams, our Wing commander, came.
Then everyone except palmer and myself jumped in an official Air Force station wagon. And went out the East gate toward the forest. We were left with a starlight scope and told to let them know if we saw anything.
When this was going down I was beside myself. Why did all these people show up? Why was this officer’s wife and kid here on official Air Force business? Why did she have a 35mm Nikon camera and make the comment. “I hope we get to see one!”