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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: mirageman
Now Earth lights tend to be seen in areas with lots of tectonic stress.
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Defragmentor
If this was NOT an experiment then how do you explain Colonel Halt's decision making in the situation he was in on the 3rd night ...
Halt himself claimed to see objects in the forest near the base, objects in the sky hovering over the base, one shooting beams of light down on his weapons storage areas and making sharp manoeuvres. He decides that walking around the forest is the only action necessary and then with the lights still in the sky and beaming down onto the base he decides to pack it all in and go back to base around 4:00 am.
No alert called on base, no fighter cover requested. Nothing.
Also why did the USAF feel they could take 20 or so men with lightalls off base and wander around Rendlesham forest without contacting the Brits? (Well Halt did but not until mid-January of 1981).
#My conclusion would be that Halt was reluctant to raise an alert because he knew what was going on and he was playing along. Or the whole incident was nowhere near as exciting or threatening as he and others make out.
Tim: We would had a 30 n' 30, if you guys remember what that was, ah y'know? We would have recalled people from the barracks if something had gotten near our WSA.
Halt: ... I'm talking to the command post, and if the command post doesn't want to do anything, do you think I was going to initiate it?
Tim: OK. That answers my other question ... why was everybody out in the forest and not protecting our, y'know, our #1 priority resource on the base?
Halt: Well, that was my main concern. I was extremely upset the fact that everyone was out there. There were light-alls out there, there were vehicles out there, there were probably 25 people out there. It was a public relations disaster and everything that's left on the base--I won't say unprotected, but minimally protected.
Actually, my concern was that the Command post didn't seem too excited about the whole thing. And what I later learned is that, not only did Eastern radar picked up some blips on their screen our aircraft controllers in the tower at Bentwaters--this didn't come out until after they'd retired--actually saw the object, saw it go past at high speed, had it on their scope, and so it go into the forest where we were.
Now the reason they didn't come forward they know other people who reported UFOs and they got decertified, so they made a deal between the two of them that they weren't going to say anything. There was also a senior officer, an aviator was in the tower with them, and he doesn't want to talk about it.
So, it was confirmed by two different radars that there was definitely something there.
Of all the strange things surrounding the Rendlesham case, one sticks in my mind more than any other. It involves one of the secretaries at the by understanding electricity in a way we have not yet mastered. That has stuck in my mind as a strange thing for a secretary to say, especially as she was so closely involved in the Rendlesham encounter and the official communications which followed.
Skinwalker was a bit of a let down to be honest. I wanted to brush up on the UFO angle, though, because there were also smallish manta shaped drone/creature...
originally posted by: mirageman
Or is there a secret military code to stating do nothing more than observe 'UFOs'?
Each commander of an Air Force base will provide a UFO investigative capability. When notice of a UFO sighting is received, an investigation will be implemented to determine the stimulus for the sighting.
If possible, an individual selected as a UFO investigator should have a scientific or technical background and experience as an investigator
Nevels: “I was in my home on Woodbridge base and I got a knock on the door. Lieutenant Englund from the Security Police came in, started walking and looking throughout my home to see if there was anybody else there with me. And I told him that yes my daughter was there, she was three years old. He said ‘well does she understand what I’m talking about because what I’m about to say is top secret.
He said ‘I am here because I was sent by the Base Commander, Colonel Conrad. He asked me to come to here and pick you up, and let me go into detail what he said.’ So then he started going back and relating all the incidents as of the UFO on December 25 through that time frame.
The story that I got from Lieutenant Englund was that the London tower, on December 25 when all this started, contacted the tower at Woodbridge base and asked them to identify the object that was above them because it was on their radar and they could not determine what it was.
Lieutenant Englund told me that one of the airmen had been taken aboard the spacecraft. He just basically went through and told me about Sergeant Jim Penniston and John Burroughs were involved – I do remember the names were mentioned – and he said ‘even to the point that someone had been abducted into the aircraft’ and he said ‘the reason Colonel Conrad has asked for me to come and get you because he felt that if he wanted an honest answer from anybody then you would give it to him.’
So it’s my orders, they are down at the Woodbridge officer’s club and they are having a party down there – and when we get through on out investigation he’ll be waiting for us and we need to go back and report to him what you saw."
originally posted by: Marylongstockings
a reply to: ctj83
You have an interesting comment, but rather than speculate too much. Its
always a good idea to have as much info on this as possible. I will try to say a bit more
in due course. It might prove interesting. Yes I know a lot re Jim and the binary codes