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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
But that doesn't explain the extreme secrecy regarding Burroughs medical records nor the other "stories" and whatever real events occurred.
CH: Well, something happened. What happened, I don’t know. It wasn’t an experiment, definitely wasn’t. My recollections fit very closely in with all the people, the four or five people that were with me that night.
For instance, Bobby Ball pointed out when he saw the things in the sky, he thought it was a grid pattern and they were searching. I’m not sure I remember it that way, I remember the pattern, but I’m not sure it was a grid. There were sharp angular movements and I’m not – I wouldn’t argue with him.
LW: I didn’t see anything flying except a red light, except when we went back.
CH: None of the witnesses that I’ve talked to from the third night say there was anything physical they could catch other than lights.
LW: As far as aliens and all that, I have to tell you that there was something there that was brightly lit with depth to it. Burroughs said they were just lights, they weren’t beings.
CH: Were you there with Burroughs?
LW: I saw Burroughs out there.
CH: Was he in uniform?
LW: No. No he wasn’t.
LW: Soon after this I started to have eye problems. Whether I saw a thing explode or I didn’t see a bright source of light…
CH: You couldn’t have been too close – you were not in front of us – there were no people in front of us. There were only five people past that point, except when Burroughs, I think, came forward. You had to have been well behind us, at least a hundred, two hundred yards, when you saw the object. That doesn’t mean you didn’t…
Bustinza was with Halts party when I met up with them and he and I then went towards whatever it was.
Bustinza told me that as we were running towards the object and I say object for no better word he fell down which I remember well he stated he did not fall but was pushed and then was held down. After that he stated whatever it was completely covered me up in other words it went over me and I disappeared. Well I can remember getting close to it and then all of a sudden I was standing in the field not knowing what had happened.
Bustinza and I were running together and he fell down and I kept running. As I was getting close to it all of a sudden it was gone and I was just standing in the field. I don’t know what happened. Bustinza told me he was knocked down and held down afterwards he stated he could not stand up until after whatever it was gone and I was standing alone in the field. Halts party was behind us several hundred yards. Halt was the one who stated down the line that I was on top of something Bustinza said that I disappeared into it. I have no idea what happened.
I was by Colonel Halt. I remember talking to Lt. Englund momentarily and Sergeant Ball. At that point, I remember John was talking to Colonel Halt, and John was pressing the issue about going back out to the forest.
Col. Halt told John that he could and he told me to go with him.
At that point, we go out into the forest and we weren't very far from each other. I'd say a couple of arm's lengths. We were walking. And at one point that's when John got in front of me, and he was like in between some trees.
There was a little clearing in between some trees and a light from above just shined on John. It was just like somebody turned a switch on. And I remember I looked at him and said something. And then I felt like I got pushed down. Like I got pushed from behind.
And that's when I tried to break my fall and my left hand went into the lighted area and it startled me. And at the same time, I felt like I was being pulled back up by my pack. I looked at John and John was trying to look up at the light. And I remember John looking at his arms and his hands. And the light was like fuzzy, when you get a snowy TV, but it was like particles. It looked like particles in the light like when you get onto a dusty road and you see particles in the light. And I couldn't tell you exactly how long. Maybe five, ten minutes. Maybe longer, I don't know.
I was more startled than anything else, and I'm sure John was, too, at the point. My reaction was to call out to him, and it crossed my mind to run. But, you know, where do you run? I didn't know what I was running from. And then the light went out. I remember the light being very bright. I even felt it kind of warmish, kind of like a spotlight.
Book update, by Jim Penniston
As I write the aftermath of the RFI, I find it to be an amazing part of it all. The aftermath which will also be presented, has all new information the public has never seen or heard about. An example of this is how the CIA and its surrogate contract services are still involved with Rendlesham.
To make this book definitive in every way, I have decided to include how I was offered a full disability under the Veterans Administration Disability program. Essentially they (the CIA surrogates) wanted to have me “bought and paid” for in return for a full VA disability. All I had to do was to submit to a Medical, DNA, and testing examination by the Stanford Research Institute Research department, along with a list of other things
In return, I would have been given their help in gaining full disability from the US government. They said it was guaranteed. This is one of dozens of unknown pieces of information about Rendlesham and its aftermath that has not been told to the public.
It was a question of integrity for me, and unfortunately, one of the other Rendlesham witnesses took them up on their offer. I have the confirmation of all of this from multiple sources.
The writing of this book will detail in every way the incident and how we got to today. It will further explain the Rendlesham Code (written by Gary Osborn, author, and researcher) and will include Gary’s discoveries which cannot be dismissed. We are both excited with the writing of this book. We will continue to keep all of you updated until completion of our definitive book on Rendlesham.
Source : Book Update - Jim Penniston
- Penniston has said Burroughs was bought off by financially, and is spreading disninfo
- Penniston says Burroughs injuries were NOT caused by the RFI
- Penniston has a book coming revealing the truth behind the code
.I had, until a year or so ago...only seen a handful of truly 'classified' medical records: those of Adolph Hitler, John Kennedy's Autopsy, and recently ... John Burroughs.
.... the responsible thing for Airman who are retiring from active duty and/or reserve duty, is to go down to the Base medical records and make copies before retiring
Since the beginning there has been a code of silence In operation between the respective participants and their differing stories. This has now broken - and with three books due out, plus podcasts we should start to see some aspects of the RFI removed or held up to serious scrutiny in a way it never has.
My thought is that with competing books, and the gloves are off, any chinks in the armour of rivals stories will be exposed......
Yes she does, but in my opinion he doesn't need much help in that regard. Anybody who has been paying attention without Angela's help has seen the changes in his stories.
originally posted by: mirageman
Angelia Joiner absolutely destroys Penniston in the interview and makes him sound like a bit of an idiot.
Not that I believe anything Penniston says anymore, but aside from Penniston saying this, I think people are making a huge leap to assume there's a link. I certainly can't assume there's any link, and while I haven't ruled out a link, I've seen nothing but unsubstantiated hype so far to suggest one so I can't prove Penniston is wrong about this even if he's wrong about other things. Of course if Penniston is right about Burrough's condition not being caused by anything at RAF Bentwaters, then what, if anything, did cause it? My brother-in-law has a strange medical condition and it developed for no apparent reason, so with my familiarity with that I don't assume there's always some specific cause. Doctors even have a word for such diagnoses: Idiopathic.
originally posted by: ctj83
And then in the next reply:
The airmans condition that you speak about, was not caused by anything at RAF Bentwaters.
originally posted by: mirageman
The gloves are off again!
Yes we've had Peter Robbins fighting at light middle weight against Nick Pope and then Charles Halt and it has never been clear who the winner was. More of a stalemate there it seems.
But now the heavyweights are coming together for a real scrap again.