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I don't think Nick Pope's source agrees that there were increased radiation readings, as Nick Pope claimed:
originally posted by: data5091
I find it difficult to explain away the evidence of this incident including the increased radiation readings in the area the craft landed.
Cowling also confirmed to me by telephone in 1998 August that Nick Pope had not re-checked the facts with him. This was over a year after Professor Close’s TV demonstration that there was nothing significant about the radiation levels at Rendlesham – an opinion with which Cowling, Pope’s own source, now agrees. (See also 2009 Update, below.)
originally posted by: data5091
I find it difficult to explain away the evidence of this incident including the increased radiation readings in the area the craft landed, as well as mentions of tree damage to a point where some type of sap was oozing out of the branches, as mentioned the plaster casts made of the landing site, the drawings Penniston made of the hyroglyphics on the craft, the sensations of electrostatic feelings felt by both Penniston and Burroughs and others, as they were close to the craft and on and on..and then I mentioned both Penniston and Burroughs have had sometimes severe health consequences related to this incident and are trying to obtain their medical records but to date, they are not getting any reply. Why? What are they trying to hide?
I think Pope buttressed his case in a chapter of the book called "Beyond Rendlesham" where he mentioned many, high profile ufo incidents around the world that today are not explained, including the Phoenix Lights, the Cash/Landrum encounter in Texas, and a pilot out of Melbourne Australia who encountered a ufo while in the air, and whos last words were that the ufo was above him. He was never found or heard from again. This particular story was aired in the Science Channels excellent "Unexplained Files". Pope was somewhat of a self admitted skeptic before he left his MOD position, but has since come to terms with his change of opinion regarding the subject of ufo's.
When we got within a 50 metre distance, the object was producing red and blue light. The blue light was steady and projecting under the object. It was up the area directly extending a metre or two out. At this point of positive identification I relayed to CSC, SSgt Coffey. A positing sighting of the object…1….Colour of lights and that it was definitely mechanical in nature. This is the closest point that I was near the object at any point.
I would add that it seems odd Penniston never produced this notebook earlier if it was real, so such absence also makes it seem like a later fabrication. I tend to believe Burroughs when he said Penniston didn't keep such a notebook, and didn't walk around any craft for 45 minutes, especially since Burrough's claim is consistent with Penniston's original witness statement, that he never got any closer than 50 meters.
In more recent television interviews Penniston has exhibited a notebook in which he claims he made real-time notes and sketches of a landed craft for about 45 minutes (see picture below). However, there are serious problems with this claim. For one thing, the date in the notebook is December 27 and the starting time is noted as 12:20 (presumably meaning 00:20). This, as we know, does not accord with the established date and time. Burroughs, who was within a few yards of him throughout the incident and saw no craft, told me in an email on 2006 March 22: “Penniston was not keeping a notebook as it went down”. In a further email dated 2008 January 17 Burroughs emphasized: “Penniston did not have time to make any sketches in a note book while this was going on and did not walk around it for 45 min.” Penniston now claims the date and time refer to a stream of binary digits he received telepathically and wrote down while at home the following day, but unfortunately that is not what the notebook shows.
We came upon whatever it was and only were close to it briefly.
It did not just stay on the ground. If we would have come up on something we would have reported it and secured it.
Whatever we encountered was able to lift off and fly away on its own power at a high rate of speed.
There was some kind of object flying around in the sky and it was beaming down some kind of energy to the ground.
It did seem to slow down and it was only for a couple of min. before it went into the trees and disappeared.
Jim and I were standing right next to each other and what we remember happening is totally different.
Jim said right away as we were walking back that he felt it was some kind of object or craft. He was about 5-10 feet closer than I was. His statement also stated how close we got to it.
I was farther away from it and did not feel it was a craft for sure. The lights around it were very bright and if you look at my statement I drew what the lights looked like.
As far as him touching something he was the closest but I did not see him touch anything. We did split up for a brief period of time but not for 45 min. I do not believe he had a different encounter than the one the 3 of us did.
Jim never brought it up after it happened and as a young airman I really did not know what to say. UFO back then were something you did not talk about.
I did ask Jim in later years why he did not talk about it and his answer was it was an ongoing investigation because he kept getting called into OSI about it. He also stated he thought I was being called in and he never would talk about things that were in an ongoing investigation.
His story has changed and I am not sure why. He has told me since he went under hypnosis his memory of the event has changed.
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Guest101
Thanks for all that information Guest101 your posts in this thread have been very informative.
This is very similar to the information Andrew Pike wrote about (which I summarised briefly in the thread here:
Plasma may well be the key to this case and that million dollar question certainly is what it a natural phenomenon or something artificial out in that forest?
Reading between the lines I think Nick Pope is suggesting the latter in the new book. Although that is far from being a definitive conclusion.
Thanks for the link. I didn't realize there was bad blood between Halt and Penniston/Burroughs. Halt said he tried to be nice to them and wrote a letter trying to help them get their medical records, and the next thing he knew, they were threatening to sue him. Wow.
originally posted by: Guest101
a reply to: mirageman
Charles Halt has some interesting comments about Penniston’s changing story.
originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
Penniston reports that during the download of information from the vehicle, he was told that "they" are "us" from the future. I observed a UFO during the 90's, during which in my mind I asked the question, "who are you"? ...the answer which popped into my head was "we are anthropologist 's". For years , that never made sense to me, Pennistons statement was for me a long awaited epiphany.