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When the 1989 stories about Lazar and Area 51/S-4 exploded on a massive scale, I was fortunate to get a call from a Las Vegas businessman named Bob Bigelow, who is an amazing –and greatly misunderstood person. He told me he was interested in the subject and wanted to know how he could help.
I had no idea he would subsequently create an elite scientific team–NIDS–and that I would get to meet and interact with…. truly remarkable people like Colm Kelleher, Hal Puthoff, Kit Green, Edgar Mitchell, Eric Davis, John Alexander, Jacques Vallee, and many others who do not want their names to be made public. It was a mind-blowing and humbling experience. For years, I was allowed to be a fly on the wall for much of what they pursued back then, including their investigation of a Utah property that would later be known as Skinwalker Ranch. NIDS has been described as a UFO research organization. That doesn’t even come close...
...It is understandable why some people want to connect the dots and assume that all of these people are involved in the same ongoing plot, but that is simply not true, in my opinion. I have great respect for Mr. B, and for the work done by NIDS, and I think this subject matter is lucky to have people like Hal Puthoff and Chris Mellon and Lue Elizondo who are STILL willing to risk their personal and professional reputations in the pursuit of this bewildering and frustrating mystery.
Full interview : www.uapinfo.net...
originally posted by: pigsy2400
The merry-go-round round continues, TTSA, dna, kit green and all the lovely theosophy connections with all involved, Lockheed, time travelling aliens,quantum atmospheric anomalies, cobra Mist,classified radar systems...blah blah blah blah blah.
What were the lights in the forest and why were service men irradiated....??
It's angry Tuesday again so please accept my apologies upfront.. all of the above deserves investigation but...most of the above is a sideshow/sidestep that seems to have distracted most..from what the hell was it in the forest over 3/4 days....
originally posted by: mirageman
One thing we do know is that there are links to the "To the Stars" enterprise and this group of 'chums' who seem to always work with one another. They also seem to have slowly but surely got the 'voices of ufology' in line as well. Burroughs, Howe, Dolan and many others were slamming TTS in the early days. Now they are all supportive of this project and it seems under NDAs (Bob Bigelow style). So the Ministry of TTSA Truth can continue with its mission having neutralized the dissenting voices of the UFOtainers.
Rendlesham is part of this manipulation and has been for a long time. There are people out there messing with UFO stories and have been for a long time for their own purposes.
originally posted by: KilgoreTrout
It seems that a fair few have and genuinely believe the stories fabricated, first by Puharich and subsequently by Doty. Which of course then leads us to TTSA and my wondering whether they are trying to do the same again, create a sphere of influencial story-tellers, or whether they are true believers in the long game.
Tangled webs indeed.
I don't see how Burroughs fits in to the old boys club of the occult,theosphy and government contracts to study weird stuff in the sky and it's defence / military applications aside from the fact he was half cooked in the forest all those years ago and the old boys want to study him as nothing more than a data set.
Maybe they told him what he wanted to hear to get that permission in terms of the dna....
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: pigsy2400
Although be aware that Linda Moulten Howe conducts it..in...her....use..you..al...robotic...style. I know this irritates lots of people. She also, as usual attempts to introduce various bogus stories into the narrative. But I'm sure you can spot them coming a mile off by now.
originally posted by: ctj83
... I'm not trying to say he doesn't do things that we might find less than palatable, but to compare him to Gotleib?
Dr's Green, Puthoff, Moore, Alexander et al were firmly on the outside during the 70s, 80s, 90s. They were the ones trying to get into the 'inner circle'...
In which case, what happened to the men behind the curtain in he 70s / 80s who were causing Green and Super Friends to chase their tails and follow disinformation?
You seem to assume there was an inner circle to get into. The main man behind the curtain I readily see in the 70's is Hal Puthoff.