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The story that Bustinza tells to Bruni and Boeche includes a landing in a clearing in the forest after the object flew to the wooded area. It does not include any conversation between Halt and ‘beings’ and it does not include any hints of Halt helping them repairing their ship. The clearing apparently was not very big, because Bustinza states: “It [the object] was a tremendous size. It even surprised me that it was able to fit into the clearing.”
LARRY FAWCETT - OK. As you got into the field, Larry said the field was ringed by military people and British personnel.
ADRIAN BUSTINZA - Yes.
LARRY FAWCETT - Is that right?
ADRIAN BUSTINZA - Yes.
LARRY FAWCETT - Well, then, how long was that machine there then?
ADRIAN BUSTINZA - I really don’t know. I mean, as far as out in the field?
LARRY FAWCETT - Yeah.
ADRIAN BUSTINZA - When we came in contact with it. Two nights.
LARRY FAWCETT - Two nights it was there.
ADRIAN BUSTINZA - Uh-huh. I went on my three days off after that.
LARRY FAWCETT - OK.
ADRIAN BUSTINZA - See because Larry’s shift and my shift intermixed.
LARRY FAWCETT - OK.
Right after the incidents, a rumor was spreading that a craft had been repaired by aliens and the base commander communicated with them and even helped them to repair it!
It was told to the RAF Watton radar operators when US personnel confiscated the radar tapes, it was told at a gas station on the base, and it was told at a New Year’s Eve party to Brenda’s partner.
Larry; We got back to Central Security Control at about 4:30 A.M. I returned my weapon to the armory, then joined other groups from my flight in the lounge to drink coffee and stare at the walls. At 6:30, A-Flight reported for the day shift. Some of the men began making jokes about little green men and flying saucers.
Whether it came from the rumor mill or was spread deliberately as disinformation, I think it also reached Larry Warren. Bustinza may have been one of his sources. When Fawcett confronted Bustinza with this story, Bustinza had already painted himself into a corner since he had encouraged Larry to go public with the story.
Statistically, you can be confident 1000% that it is woodbridge. W or E or whatever..
The coordinates are right on where google places woodbridge town, with a precision of .... 1 in 3600000000 in longitude and 2 in 3600000000 in latitude
That's a precision of around 2*Pi*5370e3 m / 3600000000 (long)
end 2*Pi*5370e3 m /(3600000000/2) (lat)
==> ... 9cm in longitude and 19cm in latitude
which is ridiculously precise and even higher that the precision of google earth that has one less decimal.
Now where did google get these coordinates ? Were these specified before 1981 ?
This is a good question because these are totally arbitrary and human of course.
They don't match any specific feature in the town. Is there any doc where these exact coordinates are specified ? Are these going to become the reference ?....
Openminds found that the coordinates found on dbases on the web give
(these exact coordinates give nothing in the google search engine)
So all this fits in a box of 19cm by 9cm on earth...
It was suggested that we over at OMF on the JP board come over here and check out this site. One of our members found a online mapping service that goes by the handle 'get lat lon' and has caused a bit of a rukus. The site went online in Oct. 2007. If you type in 'Woodbridge UK', an incredible coincidence occurs, the code matches to within an almost impossible accuracy. The odds work out to quadrillions to one if you were trying to guess a number the size of the coordinate piece of the code, which is 17 digits long and a couple of letters. 17 digits in a string is in the 10 quadrillion neighborhood. Putting letters in only makes the odds worse. We don't have a good mathmatician over there to help sort things out and my backround as a surveyor helps, but I'm completley out of my element with these kind of calculations.
It would be like finding a briefcase with the little roll-style locks, except this one would have 19 little rollers in this sequence, 9 numerical rollers, then 1 letter roller, then 8 more numerical rollers, then 1 more letter roller. The total number of combinations allowable is staggering, to say the least.
Read more: bentwaters1980.proboards.com...
Rob48Whoever came up with the code must be privately quite chuffed that their error, rather than exposing their hoax ("Duh... advanced time travellers and they screw up east and west!") has by chance provided some mystical angle that was almost certainly never intended at all!
The alternative is surely even more unlikely: namely that a front-line NATO base was under surveillance and possible attack by unknown craft for several hours, over more than one night, and no one did anything about it!
“The night we saw the UFO, we were out there on duty, on one of these exercises, and it was nighttime. Nothing going on but we all still had to be there, and we were driving around on Woodbridge base on a perimeter control, and we saw some lights up in the sky, and it looked a lot different from any other aircraft we had ever seen.”
“it was the second night we had been out on this alert. I had thought the night before, ‘now I get to see if these guys are really high or if they’re really seeing something. The night it happened it was like: ‘holy #! There must be something in the water.’”
Now, on the night of DEc 27th , I was working in one of those new Tad Vees in the very East End of Woody.
at about 2400 – 0100, our lights in our Tad Vee and what I could see out of the Tad Vee went in black out. We stepped out to see what was up but our one Tad Vee door that was open blocked our view of the East.
a Security Police, SP Capt. came over to our hanger stating we had to shut it down.
I explained to the Capt., with all due respect, we just can’t stop and walk away from the aircraft with all the tools and equipment spread out in and around the aircraft. It would be like stopping an operation at a hospital, there are policies and procedures that must be adhered to. I suggested to him that he contact our flight chief.
About ten minutes later my Flight Chief and the Capt returned and started to bark orders to shut it down. My boss wanted us to remove as many tools and equipment away from the aircraft as could be done in a few
we were instructed to grab our stuff and form up at the Secure Area Entry Point for a Roll Call. This is the first time in my assignment at B.W. or W.B. that this had ever happened!
He [the SP captain] said we were being (evacuated), sent home was the term, we were to leave immediately and depart out the front gate of Woody only. He also said we would be contacted when to return back to work due to the holidays.
I turned to the S.P. Capt and told the Capt I can’t go out the front Woody gate because I will run out of gas before I get out of Tunstall.
This is when I was briefed by the SP Capt to go directly to the East Gate. STOP for a document check until told to proceed, drive smoothly, not fast and not slow and do not stop for any reason until you get to Leiston!
I was cleared to go thru East Gate and to turn left toward Friday Street.
I drove slowly, not too fast. I wanted to see what all the hoopla was about. All I could see was military vehicles, SP trucks and the Cadillac Gauge armored vehicle, one blue staff car I think it had a white roof, and lots of Lite-alls facing the road blinding anyone trying to see into the forest. The S.P.’s were standing in several groups not really in a spaced formation. They were talking and several were smoking.
Guest101Peace protesters were very active in those days and eager to damage planes and other equipment if they got the chance.
Not just the lighthouse...wasn't there a bolide event too?
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Yes, it may seem unlikely — but if you put all prejudice aside and look at the evidence dispassionately, that’s exactly what happened.
When Penniston talks about colored lights, chromatic aberration is the first thing I think of, but I've never seen anybody discuss this. For example this shows a red on top/ blue on bottom example of chromatic aberration:
For people with a high degree of myopia, very strong eyeglass prescriptions are needed to correct the focus error. However, strong eyeglass prescriptions have a negative side effect in that off-axis viewing of objects away from the center of the lens results in prismatic movement and separation of colors, known as chromatic aberration.
Given the lighthouse interval is as he said, sure sounds a lot like the lighthouse. Combine this with the other witness statements saying they ended up seeing the lighthouse, the lighthouse conclusion seems unavoidable.
“directly in the center ground level, there was a red light blinking on and off 5 to 10 sec intervals and a blue light that was being for the most part steady.” - Penniston
Who ever said humans were rational? They did call the police, and the police didn't even come out the third time they called apparently because they didn't find any reason why they should have been called the first two times.
What is so rational about assuming that very subtle physical phenomena had these men calling the police at night reporting UFO’s, calling in the police the day after to inspect a landing site, calling a radar station to check if UFO’s were on their radar on the third night
One thing this case has demonstrated is the ability of witnesses to change their stories over time. The longer since the incident, the less credible I find the testimony, and this is true even if the witness is trying their best to remember accurately, because of things like "confabulation". In this case I'm pretty sure not all the witnesses are even trying to remember accurately and certainly they are overusing the "mind control" claims, which seems to me like a poor excuse for telling inconsistent stories.
The beams of light shining down are in Halt’s tape and have been corroborated by Nevels in his recent interview. There is nothing on the tape or in later interviews to suggest they were only visible through the starscope.
If it was indeed a “reaction test” as some have supposed, the deputy head of base security, Col Halt, failed the test big time.
Guest101The beams of light shining down are in Halt’s tape and have been corroborated by Nevels in his recent interview. There is nothing on the tape or in later interviews to suggest they were only visible through the starscope.
The descriptions of the ‘starlike objects’ sound like the standard misperceptions of bright stars when seen close to the horizon.
LT COLONEL HALT: the ones to the north are moving, one's moving away from us.
SGT BALL: Moving forward!
SGT NEVELS: It's moving out fast!
LT COLONEL HALT: They're moving out fast.
SGT BALL: This one on the right's heading away too.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah, they're both heading north. Ok hey, here he comes from the south; he's coming in toward us now.
SGT BALL: Holy #!
LT COLONEL HALT: Now were observing what appears to be a beam coming down to the ground.
SGT BALL: Look at the colors... #
LT COLONEL HALT: This is unreal.
“Binoculars were being passed around and when I had my turn I saw VERY CLEAR images of 3 triangular shaped craft that were hovering a few miles away and above treetop level".
“I observed 3 triangular craft with lights; my vision was and is perfect, the area of observation was clear. There is NO DOUBT in my mind whatsoever.”
“The shape is effectively an upright pyramid”. They “didn't look to be as flat as an actual pyramid”. The lights underneath, which ”created somewhat of a backlit effect enabling the shape of the crafts to be seen clearly”, were observed to be 8-10 rectangular blocks, arranged in a circle.
“I only stayed in the tower for an hour or so and heard one of the guys with a turn on the binoculars say: 'Wow, it just took off'. Two of the craft left at a high rate of speed. The one remaining craft was still in position when I left the tower"
Three witnesses see the same thing: The ‘stars’ to the north are moving away fast.
This definitely falsifies the ‘star-theory’.