Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

You did mean Eric Arthur Blair/George Orwell, right?

For now, maybe?

a reply to: mirageman

Touche!

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

The most important element for both Penniston and his co author, are the binary codes, heck they are writing books about the message.

But, the most pro active one is John who is also assisting others . Not forgetting he is a very important one to Dr Green and co .

a reply to: Baablacksheep

I respect John. I keep saying that. It's true.

Despite his murky past with the usual cast of characters,
some known to be dishonest, Kit Green is said to be one
heck of a great guy, making really important contributons
over the years.

I believe that.

So if John and Kit can scrape some scientific results
out of this.. I'll be thrilled.. especially if they
share the results in a public science website.

(J V told me that was the goal).

Really.. i'd about pay money to talk to Kit Green..
but I don't imagine it will ever happen.

Maybe I need to get heart valve damage to get that
invite? That's too much for me though.. I need my
heart to be healthy.

Regarding the binary codes?

I"m so very, deeply sorry that anyone fell for that...

The "binary code schtick" was attempted to be forced on me too..
but I had the decades of knowledge about this topic so that I
didn't become a victim of it.

Everyone plays the hand that they are dealt.. and in fact, most
EVERYONE spends their entire lives deluded.. not knowing the
most important facts regarding their own existence..

that's how it goes.

So if J or J &J want to write books about the binary code..
I hope it makes them happy. I'm sure that a lot of gullible
people will really enjoy the story.. especially if they get
a master writer like Peter Lavenda to do the writing.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Frankly, I pretty much believe that Penniston did indeed see something very similar to that hand-drawn picture. Now.. since I know what he saw.. and since it's not even made of normal matter in the usual sense.. the brain gets confused..

OK let's give the guy a chance. Because who knows what and who is pulling the strings in the background?

There are things like the testimony of 'Cookie' way back in the thread that do back up the timings of just after midnight when the men left base on the 26th Dec 1980. The JP notebook matches Halt's memo date of the 27th December 1980. What if Halt recalled Penniston for investigations right after Lt. Tamplin went crazy in the woods and they ventured out that night too then he was told to keep it all secret?

What if he got so messed up with interrogations and drugs afterwards because he was the only one who claimed to have seen this and he really did?

a reply to: mirageman

I'd love for you to do a "what if..." like some books & comic books do..
you know... like "what IF Galactus had joined the Fantastic 4!"
alternate earth/story thing on Penniston.

So i am hoping that actual RFI experts jump in and answer you..
I'm not an expert on RFI at all... I'm just interested in one tiny
piece of it.

But let me posit this.. and I now you hate this sort of posit!

But what if, Kit Green, Doctor Nolan and other, including the
PH.D's who did the MUFON study are right?

What if you need to have the right DNA to perceive this
stuff correctly?

Did Penniston have a little Native American DNA?
Was he abused as a child?

I don't know.. and that's mighty personal.. but if he was..
then you have your answer..

I'd say, given my personal experince, that you need "less"
of the "genetic factors" to see an "orb".

and if you got NOTHING remotely mathhing.. you might
not see much at all.. maybe some random lights.

It would be sensational if say Jim was actually 1/4 Native
American and had been slapped around... and say John
had just been slapped around.

(sorry... I hope you guys were not abused).

We do need to consider these possibilities..

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

But what if, Kit Green, Doctor Nolan and other, including the PH.D's who did the MUFON study are right?

What if you need to have the right DNA to perceive this stuff correctly?

Well let's see what others think? There is no reason why we can't address it.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

This reminds me of an encounter the missionary/linguist Daniel Evrett had among the Piraha people in the Amazon. He is quite famous for other things in certain circles (he became one of the first to speak the Piraha language and became also an atheist from his stay with the tribe) and is quite controversial among linguists for challenging the Universal Language theory.

Anyway, a much overlooked part of his book is the very bizarre episode related in the following excerpt:

Excerpt from Do Not Sleep There Are Snakes

I think many of us will find it interesting in relation to some people seeing nothing while others (in this case a whole tribe) are staring at something quite amazing.

Cheers,
BT

Double post

a reply to: mirageman

Yes alll that is really really interesting imho.

a reply to: mirageman

Yes alll that is really really interesting imho.

a reply to: beetee

I've read many stories like that.. but the white scientist was really tender
towards that culture.. he gave his youth to them... he did not mock
their culture just because it was different.

i was touched. Thank you for sharing it. Very on point.

Now.. most ignorant white people (sorry!) would say stories like this are
all about cultural conversion disorder.. mass hysteria.. cultural deception..
that a couple leaders say they see something... and everyone else agrees
so as to not be an outcast.

That *might* be true..

but there are very smart people who think that a variety of factors, including
DNA, epigentic moderation of DNA, some systemic infection or injury might
be responsible for this ability to see.

now maybe they will find that all those factors are just "keys to schizophrenia".
I dunno.
I hope they publish their results.

But we can't just assume that our race/dna composition is the only one
that matters...

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I know your feelings towards the codes and what others feel about it all too. For Jim and his co author it is the main area for them. So if they eventually complete and sell the info are you saying its all hocus pocus fakery they would be selling Kev? Would this not compromise the case and infact worsen it should it all be nonsense and meaningless? How would they get away with it?

I really am interested in the Dr Green stuff so understand were you are coming from re this. I hope we learn more re all of that.

Remember John did mention he can reach Dr Nolan if you had questions.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

i've always befriend like minded people for the most part.

my one SUPER SUPER close black triangle sighting was with a friend of mine.
we were yards away from this tri. and i stopped the car to get out and look, mind you this was before i knew the astr0 story. it totally bugged him out and he was screaming at me and then grabbing me trying to get me back in the car, im 6'3 220lbs so i just kind of kept walking towards it.


i've also had experiences where my camera will pick things up that i can see but my mom can not, or so she says. one of the truly mysterious sightings i've had was with my GF at the time. her and i as well as my sister could see what was going on, but again my mom said she couldn't see it.

i have this crazy picture of 'someone' standing in the dark outside. i could FEEL them, like their presence looking at me, it was rather uncomfortable.

for me these things come is starts and stops with months or years in between so i don't think it is mental illness as cameras cant see what your mind sees(or can it).


i do wonder if i let something in, or if it was always with me.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

the binary code is 100.0% rubbish.

Yes, it would destroy the case. In fact it already
has.

That's the entire point I guess..

the "actors" involved in RFI want the case destroyed,
even the so-called "supernatural actor".

There is a great deal of reason for the "status quo" to
continue. There is no good reason for the "mystery
to be solved".

Kev

a reply to: penroc3

Generally it takes native blood or child abuse or something like autism
for a person to experience particularly much. But of course not all the
factors are known at this time. That's why people are doing research.

On top of that, it's highly dubious that being an 'experiencer' is necessarily
a good thing at all.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

i've also seen places that irish/welch/germanic blood has ties to these things as well and that is me.

i was hit as a child at a daycare i was at, but i don't think that is what you are talking about when you say abuse. im not trying to blow my own horn but from elementary school to high school i was tested( NYS does alllllot of testing) and i have 125-135+ i.q.

i think people on both sides of that measure(slower people to super smart) have more paranormal things happen to them in life. look at Missing 411.

i have gotten nothing good from my experiences, other than gaining more knowledge but it always comes at a cost. i think some of these people who have glowing experiences with 'ufo' type things are lying about their experiences or have stockholm syndrome.

anything that needs to use subterfuge and lies to operate is no good in my book.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

And the evidence for this is where Kevin?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

the binary code is 100.0% rubbish.

Bottom line is you are supportive of Jims experiences and you seem to match them with some of your own personal experiences but are 100 percent dismissive of the codes, am not sure how that works. What ever the case is its been clear that few take the code aspect seriously. At this particular moment the only real pro active person in the case would be John Burroughs as mentioned, and that direction appears pretty serious?

Not much else to speak about on the matter, its plain the binary issue is a none starter, unless something changes in the story?

a reply to: Baablacksheep

The omega 3 study that mufon concluded. Their findings found that people with blood A type, had been abused or had traumatic experiences as children,were more fantasy prone, had native American blood connections, had previously had near death experiences and who practiced kundalini yoga were a LOT more likely to experience the phenomenon. It's findings are out there but you have to dig a little...